Buffalo_Gal

Phase two, bars reopening with diminished standing room? Ummm you can tell Trump is a teetotaler. ?

Elective surgeries resuming cannot come soon enough. A lot of hospitals are getting ready to lay off staff (if they have not already started).

Trump up

You can all come hunt with hubby! There's enough deer on his hunting land to feed a whole lotta people (in season). He will be thrilled I invited you all! ?

Being fair to them, there are no easy, short term answers. Long term? People can change how they live. I would not be shocked to see a return to basics including gardening, and more people cooking/baking at home. Will it last? Is it a long term solution? Who knows.

I asked that question in the COVID-19 thread and was eviscerated. I would also like to know the answer.

If you have no means, you cannot live within them. Remember, there are states that will not let you buy seeds or gardening supplies deeming them non-essential. Food pantries require donations. If no one is working, if businesses are out of business, who is funding them/donating? Hunting has a season. And licensing. How does that happen now? Unemployment is state funded (that extra $600 in Uncle Sam sugar-money is temporary). How does it continually fund if there are no taxpayers to pay taxes? No employers to fund it?

What do you suggest people do for an income? How can they be resourceful in this day of lock downs and "essential" businesses?

How do people pay their bills? How do they feed their families? How does that work?

If everyone were independently wealthy and able to stay home, most would support a stay at home order and bubble wrap into perpetually. That is not, however, reality.

Do you stop driving due to accidents? Do you stop walking do to accidents? Do you stop contact with other humans due to the flu/any other viruses? Life has inherent risks. There are many people at this point who would take a risk on a virus versus starving to death, going bankrupt, hiding in their homes, etc.

Maybe so, maybe not. Do not discount that people have built immunity/antibodies and we have something now that can help cure the virus. Things are in better shape than they were a few months ago. We have ventilators, a treatment, tests, etc.

And Democratic kickbacks. You forgot the kickbacks part.

If NYS waits until summer to reopen, there will be no NYS to reopen.

I wouldn't open poopie to China. Ever. Many people have questioned if the "cure" will be worse than the disease. Many have also questioned if there is a realistic plan in place barring a vaccine. (I guess we find that out tonight.) Just because people support President Trump, do not assume they blindly, continually, support President Trump in all things. There are even people in this sub-forum who have been unhappy with how he has handled this in real-time (although hindsight is always 20/20).

I do not think that is farfetched at all.

I covet that ice cream collection. ?

He actually amended the NYC budget downward $6B. No idea who's getting a layoff notice or what services will be cut.

Insanity. A little taste of authoritarianism and these "leaders" really go all in, don't they?

I'd believe it. I am pretty anti-social (I'd say I am a misanthrope) and there are days when this lock down gets to me and makes me want to go out and about in society. For normal human beings who crave interaction with others, this has got to be torture. I won't even go into the economic repercussions and how that is playing out.

I have no idea where to put this. Anyhoooo the WHO must offer a lot of kickbacks to a lot of politicians. I am seeing some articles that the rest of the G7 told Trump no way, we are stickin' with WHO, more articles that they agree to a review. ?‍♂️ Not sure if the video is available online. They all commit to getting the world economy rolling. Coronavirus: G7 seeking WHO review and reform, White House says * Leaders discuss recovery plans as world seeks way out of pandemic lockdown * Germany’s Angela Merkel defends UN body, which has come under heavy fire from Trump over handling of outbreak Leaders from the G7 industrialised nations called on Thursday for a review and reform process at the World Health Organisation and agreed to ensure a coordinated global approach to the coronavirus pandemic, the White House said. “G7 leaders agreed to remain committed to taking every necessary measure to ensure a strong and coordinated global response to this health crisis and the associated humanitarian and economic calamity and to launch a strong and sustainable recovery,” the White House said in a statement after a videoconference call between the leaders. “The leaders recognised that the G7 nations annually contribute more than a billion dollars to the World Health Organisation (WHO), and much of the conversation centred on the lack of transparency and chronic mismanagement of the pandemic by the WHO. The leaders called for a thorough review and reform process,” it said. </snip>

LOL Trump just tweeted this:

At this point I believe the suicide and bankruptcy projections more than I do the COVID-19 projections. ?