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I've seen Torell Troup mentioned several times and I feel like not many people know the situation he ended up in. Coming in during his rookie year he had a back injury that he was told would require surgery. Bills team doctors at that time disagreed and convinced him he could get by with therapy and such. They urged him to play. Not wanting to disappoint as a rookie, he decided to play. He only made the injury worse. Had the surgery after his rookie year but then was rushed (again by Bills team doctors at that time) through his rehab and was never really the same. I'm not saying the kid would've been All-Pro or anything but he really didn't get much of a fair shake. And as for Watkins being viewed as one of the worst picks... I disagree. Yeah, the method in which they drafted him may have not been the best but at that time, this fanbase was constantly up in arms about Buddy Nix's draft tendencies. Nix never moved around the board. Always stayed in his spot and let the board come to him. Fans hated that he never swung any trades. They felt he wasn't making enough of an effort to improve the team by standing pat on his picks. Enter Doug Whaley who runs his first draft in a polar opposite fashion than Nix, making deals, moving around the board, which fans had been clamoring for... but of course he didn't do it in the way they would've preferred. So it's like, "They never move around the board and never take any risks, that's why they'll always be horrible!" *moves around the board, takes risks* "No, not like that!" Watkins was always a no-win situation with most fans. Seemed as if people felt like if he didn't turn in 115 receptions for 1700 yards and 12 TDs every season then he was a colossal bust. Injuries have jacked up his NFL career and he'll probably never be the guy they thought he could be but I don't think he deserves to be lumped in with "the worst Bills picks of the 2010s." That's just me, tho.

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This staff loves versatility so a guy like him could be a good fit for what Daboll wants to do. I'd like to see him here but like I said, I dunno if he'll be there when they pick in the second round.

He's one of my favorite receivers coming up this year but I don't know if he'll be on the board by pick 40.

Why trade a left tackle with two years experience for an inexperienced rookie? Doesn't make sense. They like Dawkins. They're gonna challenge him this summer based on his performance last season where he said he became a little too content but he'll be the Week One starter at left tackle.

They're not moving Tremaine to OLB. They didn't hand him the keys of the defense and spend all of last season coaching him up to play MLB just to switch him to OLB the following year.

I doubt Fant is on this team's radar. Word on him right now is that he doesn't love ball all that much and there are questions about his dedication, work ethic, and how hard he's willing to push himself. Hockenson on the other hand, there hasn't been much about him but the general consensus I've seen is that teams like him and think he's a good but not great player.

Sometimes where there's smoke there's fire. Last year we kept hearing the Bills were in on Allen as the draft got closer and sure enough, that's who they took. A lot of times teams will dish out the wrong info to find out where leaks come from. Gil Brandt posted an interesting tweet and said when he was with the Cowboys, they allowed a scout they didn't trust to see their board, which had a player they weren't taking ranked as their top choice. The next morning there was a story in the newspaper about who the Cowboys were taking so they found the leak and eliminated it. Not saying that's what the Bills are doing but this time of year, all teams are dishing out false info to throw other teams off and all that.

Haven't they said several times that Shady is firmly in their plans for 2019? I know things can be fluid in this business but I think it'd take quite the offer for them to move him.

Fair point, OP. I haven't had as much time to dive into the draft stuff this year as I normally do so I'm not as up to date on the prospects as others might be. Year after year though, we usually see a "consensus" top ten rankings but almost every year there's a team that drafts a kid that most people thought would've gone later. One of the bigger surprises I can recall was Tyson Alualu going third overall in 2010. Or maybe Donte frickin' Whitner going eighth overall in 2006, yeesh. Last year was actually a pleasant surprise when they drafted Edmunds, I didn't expect them to jump back into the first round after all the moving and shaking they did to position themselves for Allen. If I recall, Beane said that wasn't the plan but they couldn't believe Edmunds was still there so they had to go for it. Are there any prospects this year that they feel this way about? We'll find out soon enough. I'm gonna have to follow along on my phone since I'll be in line for the 10 PM Thursday night showing of Endgame. It was a tough call, draft or Endgame but for some reason the IMAX on Transit had either Thursday 10 PM or any other day with only one showing at 11 AM. /ramble Buddy "I'll be nappin' when free agency starts" Nix.

It'd have to be a "can't miss" type of player for them to move up at all, I think. Maybe if Quinnen Williams is still hanging around after the fifth or sixth pick they might try to jump up a few spots. If anything, I think they'd stay at 9, take their guy and then jump back into the first round somewhere between picks 22-32 and draft another player who they had ranked super high on their board.

I'm not saying I wouldn't mind seeing them on Sunday night, but six Sunday night games? I think the NFL knows they need more variety than that.

Clearly they are the toast of the town. Just have them play exclusively on Sunday nights. I get that there's hype for Cleveland but as usual, the media is gonna beat that drum until I wanna puke at the sight of "Browns orange." I sincerely hope all the monstrous egos on that team clash and they implode.

That 11/24 game vs. Cleveland was debunked as fake. It came from a "leaked" Browns schedule which had something like six primetime games on it.

I don't know if they'd take him at 9, maybe in a trade down but who knows. I still think they're gonna go DL.

I saw some pretty gnarly hits on Cam that definitely should've been called. I forget who they were playing but this one stands out to me, he was in the midst of being tackled, where, like, no more help was needed, but a defender came barreling in and decked him with his shoulder right under the facemask. Cam got up livid and there was no flag. In fact I think he later said he was told to settle down or they'd throw a flag on him for delay of game.

I was confused for a minute when I saw Tyree. It made me think of David Tyree, and then I was like, "That dude's gotta be 40 by now..." then I remembered it's the UB QB.

It's cool to see these guys having fun. I think I'll always have a soft spot for Fitz. All around good dude, really always gives it everything he has. I wanna hate Darnold cause he's a Jet but he seems like a nice kid. And of course we're all on the Allen train.

I still can't see how they don't go DL with this class. Just seems to make sense but who knows at this point. Smokescreen season. They could be leaking info on certain players they "like" and hope that other teams drafting behind them might wanna jump up. Only two weeks to go. Do I dare check my phone for updates during my evening showing of Endgame??

I wouldn't say it's my favorite play but it's one I seem to remember a lot because it was the first time I'd seen it. 1990 season, MNF against the Raiders, Nate Odomes stripped Tim Brown and took it in for a TD. I was a kid and didn't know you could do that, haha. A lot of others I recall have already been mentioned.

As they say, it's smokescreen season... they might know of a team slotted after them that is high on Williams so they could be leaking info saying they have their eye on him to see if any teams bite for a trade up. I still think they're going DL.

Welp, a lot of the prospect rankings and hype we see ends up being media driven. For instance, we've been hearing for months how good Dwayne Haskins might be, before Murray declared, he was viewed as the first QB off the board. Recently, it's been said that the hype on Haskins was a result of the media and he may not be the second or even third QB taken. The same thing happens with other prospects and maybe that happened with Oliver. He was seen as a top 3-5 pick based on his sophomore season, during his junior year, guys like Quinnen Williams, Josh Allen, etc. began to emerge. I mean, really all it takes is one big-time season in college to end up on the NFL's radar. So, I don't really see Oliver's slight decline on the board as a result of a spat with a coach or him missing a bowl game, more just some other players had better seasons and are ranked a bit higher. As for what types of players we want on a team, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Teams are gonna do what they're gonna do. I think McBeane have done a great job at creating culture and identifying the types of traits they want in their players. But, again, talent wins out over all, hence their interest in Antonio Brown. Dude is a major pain in the rump but teams will deal with his BS because he produces on the field. And I think college teammates understand why players essentially leave the team in preparation for the draft. Like I said, these dudes only get one shot at being drafted and for most of them it's a lifelong goal to play in the NFL so they're going to do whatever it takes to get drafted as highly as possible, even if that means departing from their teammates. If I'm on a team with a player who could be a first round pick, I'm rooting for that guy to achieve his dreams at the highest possible level. Yeah, I also would like to have him help the team win but again, business is business and I'd simply see that type of thing as a business decision. No big deal to me. I understand it seems to be a bigger deal to you and that's fine, it can certainly be a gamble to bring in a guy with some attitude or character concerns, but they're all a gamble. Even "surefire day one starters/probably career All-Pros" are a gamble (who remembers Aaron Curry??). You just never know.

I don't think loyalty really exists in business and football is a business. Teams really don't have loyalty to their players as we see year after year longtime vets getting cut from teams they've played for for years, so why would any player have that type of loyalty? Sure, every now and then you get guys who wanna play for one team their whole career or whatever, but that's not the norm. The way I see it, if the teams don't have an issue with it, then why should I bother? Bosa and Oliver are judged on their talent first and foremost and as it is today, their talent gets them taken in the top 10 picks. Regardless if they chose to sit out. Just how it is.

Nick Bosa played three games last season, got injured (could've returned) but chose to sit out the rest of his final season at Ohio State to prepare for the draft. Did he milk it too? Should he be avoided as well? Guys that know they're gonna get drafted high will sometimes decide to prep themselves for that as opposed to playing out their last games in college. The jacket thing with Oliver was way overblown. Disagreements happen. The coach was out of line as well. NFL teams really don't have an issue with players deciding to not play as a means to avoid injury so they can maintain their draft projection, which, you know, they only ever get one shot at. An injury can mean the difference between being drafted in round one or round four and losing out on millions. I think Oliver will be fine and I wouldn't mind seeing him get drafted here.

I like that he's two for two in his Cinderella picks, having picked Jacksonville in 2017 and Chicago last season. I hope he goes three for three with the Bills.