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Got it, thanks. Yeah, I like determining the draft order that way. Seems like the best, fairest way to do it. My league doesn't use salary cap or limited amounts of long term contracts or that kind of thing. Very interesting. I imagine that adds a whole other level of strategy to the game that makes it more akin to being a real life NFL GM.

Out of curiosity: When you say "tanked to an embarrassing degree"...does your league have certain rules in place about that? Like a requirement to start players who are actually active, and to set your best possible lineup (within reason, since no one knows for sure), so that, for instance, someone's not allowed to start Zach Wilson over Patrick Mahomes, that kind of thing? Obviously, one of the cool things about dynasty is that teams CAN tank and collect picks and build for the future. But I feel like there have to be guardrails in place. If you want to tank, do it the right way: Strip your roster down by trading away assets for future picks.

Absolutely. He averaged 317 yards and 3 TDs a game over 16 games. He had 16 more touchdowns than the guy closest to him on the list that year! Despite throwing so frequently and scoring so much, he also finished with the league's second best completion percentage (64.2%) and best QB Rating (108.2). Again, compared to modern numbers, none of those statistics may look particularly impressive. But in that era of run-run-pass and of defensive players mauling quarterbacks and receivers, it was an absolutely astonishing season.

I still don't think people realize how amazing Marino putting up 5,084 yards and 48 passing TDs in the 1984 NFL was. Absolutely mind boggling stuff. Anway...give Dan Marino the Marks brothers and a good o-line in the 2024 NFL and he's going for 6,000 yards and 65 TDs.

Marino is probably a bit biased, because Kelly's Bills routinely eliminated Marino's Dolphins from the playoffs. When thinking about the guy who was one of the biggest reasons you never won a Lombardi, it's probably more palatable to label him "one of the best ever" 😋 But in all seriousness, Kelly's in the Hall of Fame for a reason. Simply looking at his (or any 90s QB's) stats through the context of today's statistical production doesn't really paint a clear picture. The league was very different back then.

One thing I've learned about dynasty is that if you're an active owner, you're going to have hits and misses -- sometimes BIG misses -- and you can't beat yourself up for it or let it stop you from making future moves. Year one (2021 season) I traded Darnell Mooney and Jerry Jeudy for Tee Higgins and Amon-Ra St. Brown. A HUGE win for me. I wasn't a believer in St Brown's rookie success being sustainable, so I flipped him for a 1st round pick, which ended up being Skyy Moore, who I thought would take over as WR1 for Tyreek Hill in KC. St Brown for Skyy Moore? A HUGE miss for me. Ya win some, ya lose some. Just gotta do your best to learn from past mistakes and to keep trusting your gut and taking swings.

Absolutely. Lil Dirty. Gotta get him back here so that we can run two jet sweeps a game. I'd also look into bringing Isaiah Hodgins back if the Giants release him. I'd like to see if we can get him on the practice squad for another four seasons or so.

Preaching to the choir on this one. While I sometimes question Beane's drafting acumen (and there's no need to get into that in this thread), I will never question his usage of free agency. He has hits and misses, like everyone, but I think he's incredibly shrewd in the way he uses free agency. I think he uses it exactly as it should be used, and strikes a nice balance. He doesn't just sit around and do nothing (like the Packers most years), but he also doesn't take the bait on the big ticket guys (Von Miller being the noted exception). He plugs holes, gives fair deals, and generally sets the Bills up well for the draft. There's a reason that he ranked 1st in the MTMS (Moves That Make Sense) index for a few years running. When it comes to contract structures, free agency, and spending in general, I'm a big fan of Brandon Beane.

Yep. At the end of the day, they'll wind up with enough for Beane to re-sign a couple players (Jones and Epenesa?) and make one moderately splashy FA move (like Connor McGovern last year) and then a bunch of ho-hum 1-year deals and contributors. As it should be. Every year we hear how "we'll be shopping the bargain bin this year", and then every year the Bills sign a decent collection of free agents that pleasantly surprises me. Notably, as you said, NOT usually big ticket signings from the first wave of free agency. They then also typically sign a decent player a month or two later once said player realizes he's not going to get the money he's seeking (Leonard Floyd, I'm looking at you). This year, I'd expect something like a safety, a couple DL, a running back, a backup QB, and a WR.

Good news for the Bills, as others have already stated. Two things to remember once free agency starts: One: Bear this in mind when you start seeing the deals that get handed out in free agency. Bigger cap means bigger contracts handed out. Try not to die of sticker shock. Two: When it comes to free agency in general, always remember that the first ones to announce the deals are typically the players' agents, who word the announcements in a way that makes the deal sound as favorable as possible for their client. The devil is ALWAYS in the details, and you should ALWAYS wait until the specifics like guaranteed money, voidable years, and roster bonuses come out, because they tell the real story.

Five guys that I would be looking at: P Matt Araiza. Big leg, legally free and clear, handsome. WR Gabe Davis. Big-bodied, downfield threat. Just needs a real opportunity to be a WR2 for someone. LB Tremaine Edmunds. What he does for you in the pass game simply cannot be quantified by statistics. Still just 25 years old. Probably trending up. DE Carlos "Boogie" Basham. Positional versatility. Very cool name. Non-stop motor. CB Levi Wallace. You can never have enough late round corners with mediocre athleticism and above average zone awareness who never intercept the football. Get 'er done, Big Baller Beane.

The thing I'm most looking forward to in free agency is seeing how they fill the safety spot that I assume is going to need filling after Hyde retires/departs. If they wanted, they could also move on from Poyer and just flip to a fresh page completely at safety, though they may prefer to stagger it by one year, thus allowing Poyer to transfer his years of wisdom in this scheme to whomever they sign/draft at the position. Anyway...Poyer and Hyde were both such good finds in free agency. Both former corners, both overlooked on the free agent market. A 7th rounder and fringe special teams player and a 5th rounder without a home position that no one seemed to want. Both became stars, Pro Bowlers, and All-Pros. I think/hope they're gonna go do a similar thing in free agency this year. I have a feeling that whoever they pick will be met with apathy, confusion, or disinterest by many Bills fans. Rather than a big named former high round pick, they may roll with someone lesser known who they've identified as having the skillset necessary to thrive in their scheme. A repeat of the Jordan Poyer signing, so to speak.

It's on the Sleeper app. Not an auction league. Just a Dynasty league, where you keep your whole team year to year and draft rookies each year. 12 teams, non-superflex, one extra flex spot. Fairly deep bench. I love it. Same. I try to at least give some kind of reasoning for declining, unless it's a downright insulting offer. I try to always make my trade offers at least reasonable and fair. I'm not "offer you a 3rd round pick for Ja'Marr Chase" guy, but I definitely have a few of those guys in my league. I was actually in the exact same situation that year, regarding the Bills/Bengals situation and how it affected the finals. The other fellow and I settled on the following: We split the prize pot down the middle. But we both wanted to determine a proper "league champion", so the commish manually deleted any points from Bengals/Bills players for that week, then we used the player outputs by those players from the FOLLOWING weeks' game, and edited those point totals into the matchup. It resulted in my opponent winning the matchup (which he quite likely would have anyway, had the Bills/Bengals game been played), but we split the prize money, so I didn't mind too much. What a weird situation that was. As for Puka: He went undrafted in both my dynasty leagues. I signed him off waivers for ZERO FAAB dollars (!!), which is just amazing. A top five dynasty WR, totally free on waivers. And boy did I need that juice added to my roster! Also managed to get him off waivers before week 1 in my home redraft league, and he (along with Tyreek and CeeDee) made me unstoppable and won me the year.

Good on him. Selfless, heroic act in a high stress moment. Bravo. And now for a little football talk... CEH is just 24 years old, was a recent 1st round pick, had over 1,000 yards from scrimmage as a rookie, and has history with Joe Brady. I thought he actually looked pretty good in the limited opportunities he got late in the Chiefs' season in the playoffs. If he's looking to resuscitate his career on another high octane offense and with a coach with whom he had great success in college, I'm all for signing CEH. Doubt he's going to command big money of any kind. Sometimes you just need an opportunity and a fresh start (see Moss, Zack).

Anyone else in a dynasty league (or several)? I just joined one three seasons ago, and loved it so much I joined another. I absolutely love the roster building and roster management aspects of it. I also love that it goes all year round and there really is no offseason. It's fun to scout and draft rookies every year, to be able to trade picks, to manage FAAB money for waivers, etc.. I have come to vastly prefer it to re-draft leagues. My only complaint is that in both leagues I'm in, my fellow owners aren't very active. Lack of response to trade requests, lack of activity on waivers. Lame. For a dynasty league to thrive and be fun, there has to be lots of activity. If I put DeVon Achane on the trade block in one league and Ken Walker on the trade block in another (which I did), and neither move responds in even a single trade inquiry after a week...it's not an active enough league. I just want to be in a league with other fantasy football sicko addicts and degenerate gamblers who are as obsessed as me and often think up trade offers us they're drifting off to sleep at night. Is that too much to ask? 😂 Anyway...just venting and trying to see if there are any other dynasty league addicts on this forum.

This is the thing that's gonna put them over the top. I wasn't worried about the Chiefs before, but NOW?! Look out.

Gotta love that Schefty calls the Chiefs signing a punter who spent all year on the street a "big development". I mean...if you say so, bruh.

Yep. The Committee is now 25% Seans.

Just our head coach joining the most powerful committee in the league. Insert "timeout", "clap", and "13 seconds" jokes here.

When the Bills gave Knox this extension, it made sense. Then Dalton Kincaid happened. Now Knox's contract no longer makes sense. It's palatable for now, because they don't have other big dollars wrapped up in the TE position since Kincaid is on a rookie deal. Ultimately, for this to be sustainable for another couple seasons, they'll need to either make Knox a meaningful part of the offense along with Kincaid, or substantially re-structure the deal.

If the cap was fake, the Bills would've already re-signed DaQuan Jones, Gabe Davis, and AJ Epenesa. Instead, they may lose all three players. You ARE correct that the cap can always be managed. However, like with a credit card, the bill always eventually comes due. I guess we'll see in just a few short weeks. My two questions for you (and forgive me if you've already answered them, I haven't read this entire thread): 1. What do you think Henry will get paid when its all said and done? 2. Assuming you want the Bills to sign him, what number would you feel comfortable paying him?

See my post directly above that reply. Spotrac projects a 1 year, $10.3 million deal for him, and I think that's about right.

Spotrac projects one year at $10.3 million. I think it'll be pretty close to that, give or take a million in either direction. I don't view Henry as the typical "dime-a-dozen veteran running back in a crowded market". He's a likely future Hall of Famer coming off back-to-back 1300+ yard seasons and six straight 10 TD+ seasons. I also think his name carries some sizzle for marketing purposes, and I can see a team like the Cowboys not hesitating to sign him. And just so that I'm not the "say no without offering an alternative" guy, I'd much rather sign Antonio Gibson (projected at $3.6 million). Passing game utility. Still just 25 years old. I'd also be happy to take a swing on JK Dobbins, who is projected at $2.1 million. Obviously coming off an ACL and an achilles in back-to-back years, but he was a big time talent and a 2nd round draft pick and is also 25 years old. Give me a Cook/Gibson/Johnson/UDFA or Cook/Dobbins/Johnson/UDFA backfield and I'm happy. I love Derrick Henry. It would be very cool to see him finish out his career as a Bill. I just don't think it's feasible.

To be clear, it's not the age that I think will keep the Bills out of the Derrick Henry market. Clearly, with their signing of Latavius Murray, they showed that age really isn't an issue for them. It's the Bills' dire salary cap situation, the price tag I expect Henry to be looking for, and the fact that they already have a cost controlled 24 year old coming off a 1500 yard season as RB1. You bring in Derrick Henry if you have a bit of money to spend and an opening at RB1. The Bills have neither. I want a good change of pace back, too. Someone to take some miles off Cook and give the Bills some depth in the event of injury to their RB1, who is on the smaller side. I just think that said player can be signed for cheaper than what Henry will command, and they can also draft another youngster.