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I agree. We seem to love power rusher/edge setter types. 'Tweeners who can play DE in base and DT on 3rd down. Just once I wanted them to take a swing on a freaky speed rusher type. Particularly with Von Miller still here to act as on field coach and mentor. I view Soloman the same way I view Tylan Grable and Travis Clayton: High upside, boom or bust physical specimens. Of course, Soloman was taken in the 5th round, which makes it a riskier selection. I'm excited to see him. He brings something to our edge group that it lacked.
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Right. I understand that. I'm just saying that I like him enough that I think by year two you'll be able to remove "backup" from that sentence. I think he's the future starter. I don't think you draft a guy who's potentially only a center at the pro level to JUST be a backup there. The Bills prefer their interior backups to have positional versatility. And I know Kromer said he believes Sed can do that and they'll cross-train him and all that, but... I'm just saying: I like the prospect. I think he's the future Bills starting center. I'm just not how far into the future that'll be, but I wouldn't guess much past 2025.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brandon-beane-josh-allen-was-pretty-pumped-to-hear-we-were-drafting-keon-coleman “Josh is crazy about the draft process. He loves it,” Beane said in an interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio. “If I get a call from Josh in the offseason, it’s usually him seeing somebody on a highlight, running into somebody, throwing with somebody — just something to ask me what I think about this guy. He called me at the Senior Bowl [to ask] what do I think about a couple of guys there. So he loves it. “He’s been in the building the last couple of weeks now that the offseason program’s started. So we did give him some guys, we said, ‘Hey, sit back with the coaches, y’all watch them together and talk about how you’d use them. I’d like to hear what you see.’ And he liked a lot of the guys, he really did. But Keon was one — I know he liked him a lot, too. And Josh and I didn’t speak Thursday, really. Maybe he stopped by that morning. But that next day, Friday morning, he FaceTimed me — actually I was still at home before I headed in here. And he was like, ‘What are you thinking?’ And I said, ‘Well, barring somebody blowing me away, I’m going to take Keon.’ And he was pretty pumped.” So pumped that Allen let Coleman know that he was the receiver the quarterback wanted at the top of the second round.
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Right, but it's not just that his arm length limits him to center. It's that his arm length is also shorter than ideal even for that position. It's listed among his weaknesses in nearly every scouting report.
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I just wanted to point out that Sed has the same arm length as Ryan Kalil, who was a 3 time All-Pro and 5 time Pro Bowler, and was drafted by a Panthers team that employed Brandon Beane in its personnel department. I'm not saying Sed will be Ryan Kalil, but the short arms don't need to mean that his career is doomed before it begins. I believe there was a Tweet to the effect that the entire pre-draft process is what dropped this guy. Just tested poorly across the board, and when combined with his short arms, it's the reason he dropped. But that when you put on the tape, you see a BALLER. You don't start several years at Georgia without being able to play some ball. He had to handle some serious D-linemen in his time there. Dane Brugler had a 2nd/3rd round grade on him, as did others. Maybe it's just the usual "Bills fan crush on a late round guy" phenomenon at play, but I have weirdly good feelings about both Sed and Javon Soloman. They might be my favorite picks of the whole Bills draft class.
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Revisiting this issue a few days later, it still comes down to this for me: Being one injury away from Mack Hollins or Justin Shorter playing significant starting snaps on offense is just not ideal in any way, shape, or form. Depending on a 20 year old rookie to be productive out of the gate and to be one of your starting three WRs when you play as much 11 personnel as the Bills do is not ideal in any way, shape, or form. They HAVE to get one more legit guy for this WR room. Have to. It's impossible for me to believe that Brandon Beane really thinks a Shaver/Shorter/Hamler/Isabella/Cephus is the answer to this problem. If so, it's hard for me to conclude anything other than that this WR corps has the potential to be the worst since 2019. I have my fingers tightly crossed that there will be a post June 1st move of some kind.
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Yeah. As finesse as the Chiefs are overall on offense, they have a bully in the middle (Kelce) that steps up in big moments, and they also moved to more of a run-balanced team last year as well, with the hard-charging Isiah Pacheco. And of course they're bullies on defense, too, with Chris Jones and with Steve Spagnuolo calling aggressive defense. Here's hoping Coleman becomes our bully on offense, and Cole Bishop becomes our bully on defense (dude packs a wallop).
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The aspect of it that I like is that the Bills offense of the past four years has at times gotten bullied in the playoffs. Once playoff time hits and the refs let the players play more, and corners started pressing our receivers more aggressively, and defensive lines get more talented, etc...our offense got bullied. Our offense has had a real "finesse" element to it for a while now. I'm excited to potentially be the BULLIES instead of the BULLIED.
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One of the points that Simms made in the clip I posted above that I liked: The Bills offense is gonna be BIG at times. You have Spencer Brown and Torrence on the right side of the OL, who are objectively huge human beings. Skill player wise, you potentially have Dawson Knox, Dalton Kincaid, and Keon Coleman all on the field at once, not to mention our giant golden retriever tank of a quarterback. They have the potential to be able to play some power ball. And defenses having to deal with Knox, Kincaid, and Coleman in the end zone while ALSO having to account for Josh "15 rushing TDs" Allen...good luck!
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Just to provide some balance so everyone doesn't think I'm a total monster: Here's some positive Coleman stuff from Ben Solak and Chris Simms (apologies if already posted).
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Keon Coleman: Josh Allen texted me “You’re the guy I want”
Logic replied to Slippery Rubber Mats's topic in The Stadium Wall
Obviously I want my franchise QB to have input, and I'm very glad they let him weigh in on his preferences. That said...Josh has admitted that he doesn't watch "tape" on these guys or break it down with coaches or anything. He watches Youtube highlight reels, like the rest of us. I hope -- I really, sincerely hope -- that Josh Allen's preferences don't outweigh all the months of hard work by the scouting department, or all the information, scouting reports, and analytics that Beane has it his dosposal. And just in case anyone feels like "welp, this is who Josh wanted, so I'm good with it", we should always remember that Josh wanted Ken Dorsey to be his OC, and it arguably cost the Bills two seasons of championship contention. -
Keon Coleman: Josh Allen texted me “You’re the guy I want”
Logic replied to Slippery Rubber Mats's topic in The Stadium Wall
Ken Dorsey: "Josh Allen texted me 'you're the guy I want!'" -
Just to add to my previous post about the YPRR thing. This goes back to 2015. 1,000 yard season producers in the NFL are highlighted in bold. A little scary, no? (also, Hi Justin Shorter, we see you)
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I mean...I see at least a LITTLE reason to sweat it. It's not just one thing, ya know? Coleman's actual college statistics, his YPRR, his Reception Perception graphic from Matt Harmon...it's a pile of things. Of course there are always outliers. The thread in the Tweet I just posted mentions that DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin didn't clear the 2.0 YPRR threshold either, and obviously both guys are good NFL players. So it's not a guarantee, by any means. People beat the odds. Still, to completely disregard this stuff when it's actually a pretty decent sample size over several years strikes me as fingers in your ears, "la la la I can't hear you" kind of thinking. Those of us that didn't love Coleman as a prospect have just as much and as valid a set of reasons for reaching that conclusion as the people who look at the same prospect and feel optimistic that he'll succeed. He's a Bill now, so I will obviously be rooting for him. He's a very likeable guy, and the Bills NEED him to be good. But I'm not going to suddenly pretend I loved the pick. That would be dishonest of me.
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I'm sure this is fine....
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Give me Chark or Boyd or OBJ (as long as any of them are on a reasonable contract) after June 1st and I'm good to go. The WR corps needs one more legitimate guy (Cephus doesn't do it for me). Accomplish that and let's roll.
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This is it in a nutshell for me. I'm a big "film over everything else" guy. So honestly, the 40 time doesn't bother me one bit. The gauntlet drill is nice, the next gen tracking is nice, all of that stuff is encouraging. But when you put on the tape of Coleman in college, it shows A LOT of him being blanketed by college corners. There are times when he's completely well covered by guys on Syracuse or Duke or Pitt. And if he's not getting separation against them, why should I presume he's going to get it against Jalen Ramsey, LaJarius Sneed, or Sauce Gardner? Yes, his route running should improve with pro coaching. And yes, his body should continue to grow and mature, and maybe that will unlock some new improvement. But it's not unreasonable to be concerned that a guy who didn't get great separation in college may not just SUDDENLY learn how to get it in the pros, when the level of cornerback talent goes up a million percent.
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Amen. Even if the Bills do FINALLY decide that 2025 is the year they're going to seriously invest in some offensive weaponry in the draft, then we'll hear "well, rookie WRs are slow to adapt to the NFL. 2026 is the year we should really be ready to dominate!". The can keeps getting kicked. It's always "next year" that we'll address these deficiencies once and for all. There will never stop being defensive depth needs and special teams needs. Until this team decides that they're going to prioritize using premium capital on offense ANYWAY, I fear we'll keep getting to January and having to count on guys like Trent Sherfield, Mack Hollins, and the ghosts of John Brown or Cole Beasley.
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Us Bills fans got to go from a decade of Brady/Gronk dominance straight to a decade of Mahomes/Kelce dominance. We're so lucky.
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Taylor Swift is just like Stevie Nicks, but with a jock boyfriend instead of the world record for "most cocaine snorted in a 5 year period".
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Her new album is straight fire, Boyst. You're missing out (I don't know what that emoji is supposed to mean, I just like it) 😁
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I actually love that part of it. I'd way rather see her beautiful, smiling, joyful face than a shot of Chiefs fans in the crowd or of a grinning Tony Romo or a walrus-mustached Andy Reid. I am not at all amongst the anti-Taylor crowd. Her collective 47 seconds of air time during a 3.5 hour broadcast don't bother me in the least.
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I expect a big rebound season from Kelce (you're a pretty awesome player when 984 yards and 5 TDs marks a "down year" for you, btw). Hollywood and Worthy are gonna open a lottt of things up for Kelce in the middle of the field. I also think that whatever injury and romance distraction nonsense happened last season will likely be in the past. He is and will continue to be the de facto number 1 pass catcher in KC for the foreseeable future.
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Does this just replace the old deal he was already on, meaning he's tied to the Chiefs through 2025, or does it tack on two NEW years, meaning he's tied to the Chiefs through 2027?