Logic

The lack of any concrete update should be taken as good news. If he had torn an ACL or popped an achilles, we'd know about it. Having heard no such thing, and hearing Beane be vague about the details and talk about trying to figure out a treatment plan and a timeline, tells us that it's almost certainly not a season ending injury. The only relevant thing we don't know for sure is the return timeline, and that should become more clear with upcoming roster moves related to cutdown day. But make no mistake: The lack of specifics on the injury should be taken as a positive sign.

I'd like to add: The guy you really like and want to sneak through to the practice squad but are so certain that some other team will claim off waivers before you can? He'll likely clear waivers and make it to the practice squad. Fans tend to think much more highly of bottom-of-roster players for their favorite teams than other teams do. Other teams, meanwhile, have their OWN roster cuts to make, and likely aren't nearly as enamored with the UDFA CB out of Valdosta State as you are.

Nothing you said is untrue. I just think it's a bad look to spend 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks on 3Ts over the course of two drafts, sign another in free agency for decent money, then STILL wind up having to bring a Jordan Phillips back right before the season. You'd hope that with the draft capital and free agency dollars spent and with Oliver Sanders Walker Carter Ogunjobi ....all of whom are entirely or primarily 3Ts (regardless of where the coaching staff is trying to force them to play)... The Bills wouldn't need to pull the Jordan Phillips lever again. But here we are.

Yet another 3T that they're dead set on forcing to play 1T. They seem to have at least a decent eye for drafting 3Ts, but they can't identify a 1T to save their lives.

Let me see if I have this straight. Brandon Beane traded down to pick Keon Coleman (losing the 5th year option in the process), used the pick he gained to draft a 3T, the coaches forced the guy to play 1T (for which he was not suited), only to see Beane sign a 3T in free agency the very next year who immediately got suspended, use draft picks on two MORE 3Ts (one of whom the coaches are also forcing to play 1T, to which he does not appear suited), and now they're likely going to cut or trade the first 3T-to-1T draftee because the forced position switch predictably didn't work..... ...and after all of THAT... They still only have one viable 1T and they're re-signing Jordan Phillips? Yikes. Not the finest hour for ol' BBB and his 4D roster chess.

Did you read the PFT article? It points out exactly what the league would've had to gain by doing this.

For those saying this seems far-fetched, I'll just say... The NFL has been caught in the act of collusion already. The Kaepernick stuff didn't happen that long ago. I don't know whether Dickerson is telling the truth here or not. But I don't find it AT ALL hard to believe that a company worth as much as the NFL and whose continuous supply of willing labor balances so precariously on a teeter-totter of precedence and tradition would engage in collusion to ensure their continued success. PARTICULARLY given that they've already been found guilty of collusion in the past.

It has already started to happen, little by little, with the scouting combine (which I think will be more or less obsolete within a decade as more and more prominent players refuse to participate in it). If they ALSO start to decline the pre-draft interview rat race or, at the very least, to steer it more in the direction of "you're recruiting ME, I'm not interviewing for a job"...could be interesting. Granted, all of this mostly applies to the 1st and 2nd round, top talent guys. I don't imagine mid round to UDFA caliber guys are gonna be pulling these power plays any time soon.

From the posted article: "Consider this. Sanders fell (we were told after the draft) because he viewed the pre-draft process as he was being recruited, not as he was being interviewed. He was essentially pushing back against the “honor and a privilege” nonsense. If his approach had been ratified by a high selection in the draft, others may have done the same. And the NFL does not want the cyborgs to become self-aware. So it’s not crazy. In the hidden (until it wasn’t) collusion ruling, the arbitrator found that the NFL’s Management Council, with the blessing of the Commissioner, encouraged teams as a result of the Watson contract to resist fully-guaranteed contracts. Would it be nuts to think that the league, which has made the draft into a massive offseason tentpole event by perpetuating the notion that it’s a Harry Potter sorting-hat ceremony, will react negatively to any player who doesn’t play along? “It’s a job interview.” We hear it every year. Players get poked and prodded and interrogated and scrutinized. For the system to work, the players need to submit. If they ever realize the power that comes from saying, “It’s an honor and a privilege for you to be able to employ us,” the whole thing could fall apart. It’s all about power. It’s all about showing those who don’t have the power that there are consequences to not yielding to the power."

I mean this in the most literal way possible: It elicits no feelings in me. Not a one. A rich man having a large boat is like a squirrel hiding a nut, or a wolf howling at the moon. It's nature. I suppose if I had to search deep within myself to come up with a reaction, it would be this: It seems like it would be nice to ride on that boat. I would like to eat a platter of charcuterie and fine cheeses during a picturesque sunset. That seems really pleasant.

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Logic - Not having daily intercourse with Sydney Sweeney yet.

If this offseason has showed us all anything, it's that we should wait until all the information is in before panicking and assuming the worst...

I think the understanding of positional responsibilities and interchangeability -- not to mention scheme and personnel deployment -- among most NFL fans lags quite far behind reality. The old fashioned understanding of strong and free safeties as mentioned here, the differences in responsibility and body type between a 4-3 and 3-4 defensive end (it took a long time for "Edge" to become a common nomenclature for NFL fans, and even then, the Pro Bowl voting still doesn't differentiate between these things), the interchangeability of linebackers in modern defenses, and the common fan perception of a specific and numbered wide receiver depth chart when, in reality, coaches don't think in such terms. Just a few examples of the massive gulf in knowledge and understanding between fans and coaches/players. There are different levels to football knowledge for fans, of course, but just about all of them lag far behind reality. And I include myself in the "there's so much we don't know or outright misperceive" pile, lest anyone think I'm being holier than thou. It's one of the reasons I wish there was more mainstream educational/informed NFL programming. Matchup shows, scheme and positional explanations, etc. That stuff all exists in the amateur blogosphere and sometimes in spaces like SiriusXM radio, but there doesn't seem to be much of a market for it on ESPN or NFLN. Most fans are content not knowing what they don't know.

We can agree to disagree. When your kicker has struggled with occasional cases of the yips as ours has, I think there's value in having a backup plan. I also think there's value in getting a talented rookie kicker in your building and having him work with your kicking operation (snapper, holder, etc). In this scenario, rather than scrambling mid-week to hold tryouts and get someone into your building and get him up to speed, you can just seamlessly call up and insert your PS kicker. I view kicker as a very important position. Kickers have more of a direct impact on the outcome of games than, say, 12th or 13th o-linemen or 10th D-linemen. Therefore, having a ready replacement who, at the same time, you're also evaluating and working with and seeing if maybe he's a better long term answer than your current, expensive guy...seems like a good strategy to me. But I'm also just an idiot typing on his computer at home, so maybe I don't know what the heck I'm talking about.

Hearing Allen say that the Bills offense is gonna move Keon all over the field -- which they absolutely should do, because his best shot at consistent productivity may come with at least a part time deployment as a big slot -- makes me like the idea of Gabe Davis even more. For one thing, lining Davis up at X sometimes would allow Coleman the flexibility to move around the formation. For another thing, a Coleman/Davis duo at WR should, theoretically, be a nasty run blocking pairing, which we know is important to Brady and McDermott.

Thanks. I enjoy your posts too. The quote of mine you bolded specifically began with the words "purely in terms of camp and preseason contributions". I do not dispute Moore's past production in this league. That said, we saw with Marquz Valdes Scantling that that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Apparently Moore is healthy and running with the 1s as Shakir's de facto slot backup right now. If that continues, his roster spot is probably safer than I give it credit for. But again, my comments were based only on the fact that I have yet to hear of a single big or notable play that Moore has made all training camp or preseason. Purely in terms of what he's done HERE, he seems to be closer to Hamler/Virgil than Coleman/Shavers in terms of noteworthy plays.

I'm starting to think the Bills are signing these guys just to absorb the weird injury curse that's been going around all offseason. Some kind of voodoo injury transference spell. Crazy. *****. The spell didn't work.

Davis kicked well. I think Bass is just back to full health and it was a numbers crunch. Hopeful they can get Davis back on the practice squad for the season. I think it's smart for teams to have a kicker on the practice squad, especially if it's a talented rookie like Davis, and especially if your kicker gets occasional stretches of the yips that you're not 100% sure he's gotten past (like Bass).

Many outlets had a 5th round ground on Zy Alexander. Good, lengthy CB on a bad LSU defense. NFL.com lists Tyson Campbell as his pro comparison. Has a chance to develop into a solid depth player and maybe even more. Likely looking at a practice squad stash and a chance to compete for a main roster spot in 2026. Any draftniks on here that can say a little more about him?

Would you mind pointing me to some of the good reports out of camp for Moore? Because I genuinely don't remember readying many/any. I also believe he has more drops than catches through two preseason games. With McDermott talking about uncertainty after the top three WRs and then bringing in Gabe Davis for a visit, I think calling Moore a "solid lock" for the roster seems too generous. I don't get that impression. I may be wrong, and he may make it, but... while I've read consistently glowing camp reports about Keon Coleman, Tyrell Shavers, and even some Palmer praise at times....Elijah Moore? I must've missed those.

Thanks. I'll admit I haven't been to a camp, and am going only off of what I've read from beat reporters and seen in the preseason games. I do agree that he seems to be the primary slot backup to Shakir. Still, for as much excitement as some Bills fans had around his signing (and I was one of them), it has felt like he's had a very quiet camp and preseason. Usage wise, he may be getting consistent work. Production wise, I can't remember the last time I heard about him connecting for a big or even notable play with Josh.

I think Palmer will prove to be a good signing, health permitting. Coleman, Palmer, Shakir are the locked in top three. I think that, for whatever reason (maybe contract?), they still like Samuel, so he's probably WR4. That leaves two spots at most. Davis/Shavers or Shenault/Shavers have to be the betting favorites to claim those final two spots at this point.

Bills fans seem to have a vision of Moore that doesn't match the reality of his time here so far. All indications are that purely in terms of his camp and preseason contributions, he's been no better than a KJ Hamler or Jalen Virgil type. Very much a roster bubble guy. But because of his name recognition and the tantalizing "he could really BE something if he just gets a good QB!" factor, many act like he's a near roster lock and a playmaker that other teams would want to trade for. I don't see it. I think Moore is more likely to be cut than rostered at this point, and I don't think he'd fetch a penny of trade return. The most I think they could hope for would be a future late round pick swap (something like Moore and a 7th for a 6th in 2027), and even then I'd be surprised. All that said, I still think Gabe Davis would improve this WR room.