Logic

I mean...in terms of actual drafting average, I think if you get THREE solid starters, you've done well. Very few draft classes, over time, produce 5 solid starters.

I'm just waiting for someone to come along and say the Bills messed the pick up because they didn't take Anthony Johnson, then claim to know a bunch about this Darryl Johnson kid and how he stinks. Any time now...

Meh. I'd say reaching for WRs in a draft where there weren't any great ones just because it's a "need" would be more of a Bills-y move. Drafting linemen because thats the strength of the draft and its what the value dictated and waiting until next year when there will be better WRs available makes sense to me. Another thing that makes sense to me? Having Foster and Brown on the outside, which is a "pick your poison" speed double threat that not many teams will have an easy time handling. Then, in the open space underneath, you have slot machine Cole Beasley and matchup nightmare Duke Williams (what nickel defender can match up with this monster?). And don't forget what should be a much improved running game and the danger that Josh Allen's legs present, as well. Basically what I'm saying is that defenses are darned if they do, darned if they don't. If they bring a safety down into the box, Brown or Foster will light 'em up deep. If they don't, Shady and Gore and Motor will run wild. Drafting a mediocre wide receiver wasn't going to make a material difference. Time will tell the tale.

Crazy, right?

Bills seem to follow the old draft adage: Day 1 is for immediate starters. Day 2 is for year 2 starters/contributors. Day 3 is for taking swings on athletic upside. Smart drafting.

So you're saying Josh Allen is gonna make Joseph his b i t c h?! :P

Except totally the opposite.

Love the pick. Milano 2.0.

Matt Miller just said he had him as a top 100 player.

Don't sleep on Joseph. The last 5th round undersized linebacker we took worked out pretty darn well.

Vosean Joseph!!! YES!

Bills about to get their next Matt Milano. Vosean Joseph? Let's see.

Logan Thomas came into the NFL as a QB. His very first year as a TE was on our roster, in the NFL. Knox has already been a tight end for two years in college. Not apples to apples.

I just hope people aren't still stuck on a WR when the next Bills pick comes up. I get that people want to add to that position, and maybe the Bills will, but the odds of a 5th rounder beating out Foster, Brown, Beasley, Jones, McKenzie, Williams, and Roberts for a roster spot seems low.

They changed that rule. This is the first year that you CAN trade comp picks. Amen.

Again, I meant 2020. McCoy and Gore's contracts are up after this season. Singletary has the goods to start once they leave. Knox is raw, but will quickly prove to be the most physically talented tight end on the roster.

Fair enough. Our offensive coordinator is a former tight ends coach for New England, and our current tight ends coach Rob Boras is a good one. I happen to think we WILL develop Knox into a quality TE, and sooner rather than later. Their development of undrafted WR Jason Croom into a contributing TE adds to my belief that they will have success with Knox. I respect your opinion, though, and time will tell the tale.

Not in 2019, no. In 2020? I think that's absolutely on the table.

Sometimes you have to respect the value of what's on the board. By the time the Bills were on the clock in the 3rd round, a tremendous run on WRs had happened, and the value was no longer there. I, for one, am glad they remained true to the value on their board, picked BPA, and would up with four players in the top 100. I also think that Knox and Singletary will be starting for the Bills offense next season (2020). Time will tell.

I just wanted to make a quick mention of the fact that the 2020 draft is said to be filled with high quality skill position players, but quite bereft of quality offensive and defensive linemen. I know there are some fans here who are worried about the WR Corps. I'm not one of them, as I feel that Foster and Brown on the outside with Jones and Beasley (and Duke Williams?) inside will be a big improvement over last year. I believe they're following the New England model of having a platoon of guys who can do specific things and win specific matchups. But for those that ARE concerned, well... Strengthening the protection in front of Allen and the defensive line were the right things to do in this draft. Not only is building from the trenches out the right way to build a team, but that's where the value and impact was in this draft. Next year, as I said, will have a lot of quality WRs and RBs on the board, and oh by the way, the Bills are set to be in the top 3 in available cap space AGAIN in 2020. Breathe in, breathe out. Our offense has more firepower this year, and there will be more available upgrades next year, too. Beane's got this. Trust the Process. GO BILLS!

You're right, and not all fans who don't like picks would be lumped into the "whiners" group for me. But there absolutely ARE a sub-set of unhappy people who go overboard or who act like what Beane is doing constitutes roster malpractice. It's one thing to disagree with a pick or reserve judgement or prefer that a different position be taken, it's quite another to outright badmouth a GM or say we're having a terrible draft or whatever just because Beane picked a different position or player than a fan may have liked. There are reasonable ways to differ with a team's direction and there are immature, silly ways to do it. Sometimes, it feels like there are more of the latter than the former on this board.

Like I said in another thread: This draft has proven to me that the Bills can get great value at every single pick, attack areas of need, receive universal praise nationally from both mainstream and analytics nerd outlets....and there will STILL be a ton of whining and griping from people simply because the Bills didn't pick exactly who these people wanted them to pick. This year's gripers seem to have one thing in common: They wanted WRs, and they're upset that the Bills didn't take any, so they've decided to ***** on every pick the Bills make regardless, just because it isn't who THEY wanted. I even see a lot of "Bills should've taken X player at that spot", even though the player that said fan wanted wound up going like a full round later. Value is a real thing in the draft. You don't just say "I'm taking a WR next round come hell or high water!" Anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it never ceases to amaze me how much people will whine just because the team didn't do what THEY wanted. I shouldn't be surprised, I guess, because it happens ever year, but sheesh. For anyone sick of the negativity, I suggest taking a break from TBD and reading just about any national outlet's coverage of the Bills draft, because outside of the TBD bubble, it's hard to find anyone knocking what the Bills have done.

This just goes to show you that the Bills can have a draft in which they get great value at every single pick, attack positions of need, and get universally praised by national analysts.... And there will STILL be a bunch of whiners and complainers acting like they know better and griping about the picks just because it's not exactly who THEY wanted. And here's the real crux of it all: Many posters were just fully attached to the idea that they wanted the Bills to draft WRs. The fact that the Bills didn't do so is pretty much the entire reason for their anger. It's beyond silly.

I love this pick. They got 4 players in the top 100 Defensive impact player Offense Offense Offense Love it. Knox is a horse who was only available so late because he's raw and because Metcalf, Brown, and Lodge all took targets away from him. In two years, he'll be a high quality starter for the Bills. Great pick.

Google him. Look at any other source out there. He's not 5'7".