oldmanfan

It was a joke for God’s sake. Maybe it’s time Diggs grows up.

Did you happen to see what the Browns D line did to the Bengals last week?

I am always a proponent of building things up front. Drafting Torrence was good, McGovern will be an upgrade. I am not as negative on Brown as many but he needs to improve. I would be looking at Bates for Morse; Morse gets bull rushed by big DTs. Cincy has one more year with those WRs but with Burrow’s new contract they won’t be able to afford it anymore. When you find your great QB and have to pay him then that star QB has to make guys around him better. You likely can afford one real star receiver. Mahomes has Kelce, we have Diggs, Burrow will have Chase. The Niners have done things differently having non-star QBs that can work in Shanahan’s system and allow $$ to be spent elsewhere.

They understand, but want him to have a long and successful career. They’re OK with calling runs but he has to slide and he doesn’t too many times. He can scramble, just get out of bounds or slide. And I’m sorry, but if you haven’t seen the number of long passes he’s completed to both Diggs and Davis the past several years then I’m not sure what team you’ve been watching. They are taking away the deep ball not because of our receiver’s deficiencies, but because they think Josh will eventually make a mistake and force it into coverage. We all love Josh but he has room to improve. We love his competitiveness, but guys like Brady and Manning were as competitive as any guys who ever played and they were all time greats because they mixed physical talent with smarts. Josh is maybe the most physically talented guy ever but still needs to learn to play smarter.

Try again. Teams right now know Josh is prone to going off schedule to throw the deep ball, so they are playing for it. They are baiting him. And last week he fell for it. Dorsey is calling different route trees and it’s up to Josh to read them. When he takes the easier routes it will then force the D to come up more and open deeper routes. We know Diggs can get deep as can Davis. And they are trying to protect him from getting hurt by running too much. There is a balance between freeing him up and not taking unnecessary chances, and was highlighted by him trying to jump over two guys 5 yards before the first down marker. We all love Josh but he stunk Monday. He’ll play better. Kincaid can run the underneath stuff Beasley ran. I think Sherfield can as well. But Josh has to trust it.

Kincaid had 4 catches. And Josh will not suck like he did Monday. Things will come together.

One game where Josh went temporarily insane in the second half. One game.

Sharing team info is less of an issue that joking around about one player? Seriously?

Love Josh as we all do, but he stunk last week. And it was him trying to do too much on his own again. Take the fumble, he tries to grab the ball and advance it. Just fall on the damn thing.

She was joking around. It is not her fault star NFL WRs as a group might be the biggest divas on the planet.

Don’t give me this crap that Dorsey won’t help him. Guys were open. We all love Josh but he stunk last week. I’m sure he’ll bounce back but teams are playing them now to stop the deep ball and he needs to be smart and take what’s there.

Lighten up Francis

It was a joke. Come on now.

Last night I was listening to a show with Starks and Lance Medow. Almost turned it off because Medow to me is an annoying twerp. Anyway, they are talking about our last drive before OT and the twerp is asking Starks why we took a couple shots down the field instead of gaining a few more yards to give the kicker a shorter field. And Starks comes up with a gem: that it showed we had no faith in our kicker and that it was a further sign of dissension on the team. Well. Max, did it occur to you that they took a shot or two downfield to win, knowing that if it didn’t work they had complete faith in their kicker from 50 yards? A faith that was jystified? The incessant need to fill 24/7 radio with guys to spout off opinions is either hysterically funny or ridiculous. Not sure which.

I think they are. But he has to listen

I think it hit me because it suggests he refuses to listen to his coaching staff. They have preached all season to protect himself and not take unnecessary hits but did so for no reason there.

We have no idea how much work he puts in. Don’t listen to rumors. Plus you can’t watch TV for more than 30 minutes without seeing a Mahomes commercial.

Josh can be elite and win Lombardi's, but he needs to do what Brady and Manning (and now Mahomes) learned and take the easy throws. It has nothing to do with coaching, it has to do with him realizing what wins and what doesn't. We'll be a playoff team again this year, and once you get there you always have a chance.

No relevance whatsoever

Had two guys he could have flipped the ball to for a first down

We all love Josh. Yesterday was an aberration, but clearly he needs to accept that less us sometimes more. I would try two things: 1. Have the team leaders sit with him, tell him they have his back, but that he has to play the offense as designed 2. Bring the Manning brothers in (or Brady) for skull sessions and show him where he’s making bad reads.

First they can’t afford Allen. Second having a different OC only works if Josh is going to actually listen and run the plays that are called. Running plays OK; Dorsey should not be running Cook that much inside. But pass plays Josh is presented options and he needs to make the read and get the ball out. Which he did not do well last night.

And my point is you ridiculously over exaggerate when you say each played like garbage. You have decided the theee guys there stink so if anything goes wrong you’re going to blame those three guys regardless. Last night’s game was lost because of Josh.

Yes, he should have gotten the ball out sooner. But when he didn't the answer is not to try and hurdle two guys 5 yards short of the marker. That is the point; he has to be smarter than that. This was a low scoring game, a punt is not a bad play. Pin them back and come out again instead of putting yourself at risk of getting hurt.

Ok,IF he said this there is no defense. But we'll see where things go from here. Terry will have to address this privately with the team.