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I’ve been using this stuff for neck and shoulder pain recently and it’s been helping. https://www.myaderm.com I got the double strength stuff. It has a high dose of CBD, I like many of these creams and oils that have less than a gram of total CBD. Some have like 1/16th of a gram (which is nothing). It’s also transdermal so it absorbs right into your blood stream. Its a good one to try to see if CBD works for you because 1) it’s a lot higher dose than many of these CBD products, and 2) it’s just mainly pure CBD. It doesn’t have the icy/hot/menthol,etc. that most CBD creams have. Mine’s just basically CBD with a hint of an orange smell. (The orange bottle). It’s actually pretty easy to make your own CBD products too, and you can make higher quality stuff for a lot cheaper. Just order a 99% pure CBD isolate (or some other form of pure CBD, make sure it’s from a quality source) and mix it with your chosen muscle rub, or carrier oil. Or make edibles, etc.

how so? We know for a fact that this virus is plenty deadly, no matter what the mortality rate ends up being. This virus has killed 150,000 people in just over 4 months. and that’s with the (half-assed) preventative measures we’ve taken. I can’t even imagine how much worse it would have been if we just stayed open and did nothing. No average flu we’ve ever seen has killed 150,000 Americans in 4+ months. Our worst flu season in the last decade saw 30 to 60,000 deaths over the entire flu season (8-9 months). Covid has killed at least 2-4 x that amount in half the time (or less) and we haven’t even hit flu season yet this year. Covid is going to finish among the top 5 causes of death in the United States this year, and actually, probably top 3. For a whole month it was the #1 killer in the US. leading causes of death in the US, for comparison: https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death The mortality rate also doesn’t change the fact that this virus spreads fast and can quickly start to overwhelm our healthcare systems if left to spread unchecked (as we’ve seen over and over again here and around the world). We are also finding out that there could be longer term health effects, like damage to the heart and lungs. See the study that Hapless posted in the other covid thread that examined 100 “mild cases” (people who weren’t hospitalized) and found 78% with heart damage (in many people with no previous health issues).

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/politics/2020/07/29/ub-doctors-give-facts-about-hydroxychloroquine-and-covid ‘UB Doctors: Hydroxychloroquine Not Effective Treatment for COVID-19‘

I won’t even eat the wings if they’re soggy. Nasty! ?

I eat both but I definitely prefer the drums (nice and crispy!). I used to prefer the flats when I was a kid.

Anyone watch that 20/20 special on covid last night? edit - here it is. I highly recommend watching this if/when you get a chance. Parts 1-3: you can also watch the full episode here, but you need to sign in with your cable provider 1st: https://abc.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2020-07/28-american-catastrophe-how-did-we-get-here-a-special-edition-of-2020

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/14-texas-family-test-positive-coronavirus-after-small-gathering-1-n1234980 “14 in Texas family test positive for coronavirus after small gathering, 1 dies” ‘Tony Green, who lives in Dallas and hosted the small gathering, has described himself as a former COVID-19 denier.’

This is a report prepared by the coronavirus task force on all 50 states. Each state’s current covid situation is detailed and their recommendations are listed. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/28/us/states-report-virus-response-july-26.html “The federal government prepares regular reports on the response to the coronavirus. The following report, dated July 26, was distributed to states by the coronavirus task force.” The list is up to 21 states that they recommend put more restrictions in place. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/world/coronavirus-covid-19.html https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/509418-21-states-now-in-federal-red-zone-for-serious-coronavirus-outbreaks-report

There’s live hockey on right now!! Philly vs Pittsburgh on NBC sports. It’s a warm up game but IDGAF it’s just awesome to have live hockey back!

I wish the Sabres were getting ready to play, but I’m still glad there will be hockey to watch soon. I think this will be the first time we’ve ever watched NHL playoffs in August. I really hope it goes well. If it does hopefully that’s a good sign for the NFL season.

I read that the opportunity wasn’t with another NHL team, so I have no clue who/what it involves. I just thought it was interesting. There’s not a whole lot of sports news these days... lol I love that new profile pic btw!

I don’t know if we even need a full national lockdown. I think some states have to start following the CDC reopening guidelines better, maybe roll back on some of the places they allowed to reopen too soon (the places that are the biggest drivers of covid spread, and I think some places have already started to do this), mandate masks in public places and do a lot better at delivering a unified message. Another lockdown would do little good otherwise. It would help the outbreaks but we’d eventually be right back to where we are now, with cases surging and hospitals reaching capacity. We need everyone to get on board and do their (small/large) part in this fight (especially with schools opening and flu season approaching), and I think that’s hard to accomplish when so many people are not on the same page. And I agree. I KNOW we can still do this. We have to.

This about sums up how I feel. Though Let’s see what they do with the picks before we start worrying about it. Joe Douglas might end up being a great GM or he might end up being just another crappy Jets GM in a long line of crappy Jets GMs... ?

Love it. It would be a great depth signing and a good addition to the LB room.

Wow, that’s awesome! I give the guy a lot of credit. That E:60 on what he went through was crazy.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html CDC revised its forecast of total deaths. They’re now predicting 160-175k by August 15th (3 weeks from today). We’re at 144k now. That’s 15,000 to 30,000 deaths over the next 3 weeks. I hope that ends up being an overestimate (especially the higher estimate). I’m starting to get worried that this could be another one of those really painful stretches. I pray it’s not. That month where we lost 2000+ a day was horrible. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/coronavirus-updates-us-death-toll-rising-187percent-higher-than-last-week/ar-BB178bZB Hoping for the best though. Treatments for this virus are much better than they were at the beginning of this pandemic. I’ve pretty much lost all hope for a coordinated national response at this point.

It’s all good. Nothing to apologize for. I understand. I think this stuff is taking its toll on a lot of us.

Something is going on with John Chayka in Arizona. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sources-coyotes-relationship-gm-chayka-fell-apart-new-opportunity/ wonder what the new opportunity was/is.

We will agree to disagree I guess. NY issued their state wide stay at home order when there was 21,000 total cases in the state. MA issued theirs with less than 1000 total cases in the state. MI had 1,791 cases when they issued their stay at home orders. NJ had 1,327 at the time of the stay at home order Those were all places considered to have early outbreaks. edit - my only real point was that Florida isn’t seeing this current surge because covid just got to their state.

CA is also seeing another spike. I probably should have included them with the other states I mentioned. I went over some of the numbers from Florida within the last few pages of this thread. I posted a timeline of covid in Florida. They had over 20,000 covid cases in April. DeSantis shut down specifically to get covid under control. If the above isn’t an outbreak, then what is? The first outbreak in Texas wasn’t as bad as Florida, but they still had an outbreak. Their first case was way back in March. and again, I don’t think you need to have a large outbreak before you’re able to start limiting the spread of covid. The goal of all these guidelines is to avoid these large outbreaks at all.

I agree. We are seeing spikes in places that already dealt with covid cases and shut down once. People keep saying these states with large outbreaks are just dealing with covid for the first time but that’s not entirely true. Texas issued disaster and emergency declarations way back in March. Florida dealt with a large covid outbreak in April. And AFAIK All of these states currently dealing with outbreaks have had covid cases for months. So, what was the national “pause” for if it wasn’t to get covid under control and stop these large outbreaks/spikes? Am I wrong for thinking that these large outbreaks still going on in June and July didn’t have to happen? I get that some covid spread is unavoidable. We can’t keep the case count at zero. But I don’t think you need to have a big outbreak before you can then control the spread. I feel at this point in the pandemic we seem to have a pretty effective method to control the spread - wear masks, social distance and avoid the indoor activities that present the highest risk to be covid super spreader events. Oh, and reopen following the CDC guidelines. That also seems to be a big factor so far in these spikes. The places that have followed the reopening guidelines most strictly seem to be doing the best. The places dealing with spikes, it seems like for the most part, did not follow the guidelines nearly as strictly when reopening. We will see how long it holds. I feel like the #1 lesson we should have learned by now is if you let your guard down, this virus will spread and it can/will spread fast if allowed. We can’t just go back to acting like everything is normal as places reopen.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/our-backs-are-to-the-wall-texas-hospital-to-turn-away-covid-19-patients-with-poor-survival-chances.html 'Our backs are to the wall': Texas hospital to turn away COVID-19 patients with poor survival chances ?

Wow!

Just came across this site today. I’ve read a couple articles so far and felt it was worth sharing. @Hapless Bills Fan I’m curious to hear your thoughts on this site get a chance to look at it some time. https://www.erinbromage.com Thought this article was pretty good/helpful. Edit - curious what you think of the advise in this article hapless. https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them