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At this point it appears testing is only catching 10% of the actually true number of people walking around with Covid 19. The long incubation period is making it impossible to control. Home test kits and a per individual lockdown until testing negative twice through a one week time span might be the best way to corral Covid 19 in my humble opinion. One month and we could have the US back on track for a full recovery IMO. Having 90% of our Covid 19 case load walking the streets does not cut it.

Yes, I remember Gu because you just reminded me, lol ( Exray)

I was just talking to my army Brat niece last night about this very subject. Her husband just arrived in Afghanistan this week on a training mission and tested positive for Covid 19. My little army Brat is a very brave girl, but I could hear the concern in her voice as she tried to keep her emotions in check. Covid 19 scent patrol dogs could have prevented this from happening IMO.

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Interesting, one of the main ingredients in hair spray "polyvinylpyrrolidone" has a negative charge like polypropylene which repels the virus. Lol, hey man, I'm just saying... I realize its allergy season, but to feel sick enough to get tested yet continue working until test results come back would remind me of why its better to stay clear of hair salons. (hair stylist or customer) Myself personally, its very possible hair stylist A got the virus while working in my humble opinion.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cdc-study-covid-19-cases-may-be-10-times-higher-than-reported-214522682.html Back up to 10 it appears Whats interesting is using the multiplier would also drop the US mortality rate 10 times lower then it is now.

The reason I mentioned outdoors is because from what I've seen Limeaid most people seem to be under the impression you are safe from Covid 19 on the outside when in reality you are not. Common sense tells you wind can increase how far something can travel. Early studies are also telling us Covid 19 is attaching itself to air pollution. We are seeing a correlation between higher case loads and deaths being recorded in places that air pollution is higher. The assumption is being made that this is because of the effect air pollution can have on the lungs. Myself personally, I'm not fully convinced. Covid 19 attaching itself to small particles of air pollution and being inhaled is also possible/ plausible in my humble opinion. Perhaps its a combination of the two. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/the-deadly-link-between-covid-19-and-air-pollution/ https://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2020/07/17/why-air-pollution-is-linked-to-severe-cases-of-covid-19/ https://theconversation.com/air-pollution-exposure-linked-to-higher-covid-19-cases-and-deaths-new-study-141620 There are to many questions about Covid 19 and not enough answers. I think we are fortunate here on TBD to have someone like Hapless sifting through all the data and making heads or tails of it. While I may not agree 100% on all of his summary. (99%) I know his conclusions are well thought out and data driven. So when he posts something I pay very close attention. We all should. Space, the final frontier...

A fairly recent article that concerns me https://abcnews.go.com/US/scientists-covid-19-spread-particles-air/story?id=71665634 Older article ( not reviewed ) that I also find concerning https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/494677-coronavirus-detected-on-air-pollution-particles-report Not enough is known yet about Covid 19 and why I urge everyone to err on the side of caution indoors or outdoors.

Speaking of breaks, giving every team 2 bye's might not be such a bad idea. The normally scheduled bye and an everyone takes a week off simultaneously bye half way through the season. Just a thought...

I voted a wishful thinking yes, the season starts on time...

I think your kiddo also has the benifit of having an intelligent and well informed Dad who gets it.

A very plausible explanation. Oh, we can work on it alright. Just ask any young American and most will agree...

Excellent point, Wich could explain why a 2nd big wave isn't happening yet in the hard hit state of NY. If you multiply our current US case load by 10 which is a reoccurring number I keep hearing we have reached the 10% mark nationally already. If true, this could be good news in a world of bad...

Interesting, Perhaps Hapless can chime in, Even so, we're a little over 1% right now nationally.

To achieve herd immunity without a vaccine unfortunately almost half the population would need to test positive with Covid 19 for a chance of this to happen. By way of example the state of NY would need approx 3.5 million people. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200626/herd-immunity-threshold-could-be-as-low-as-43-percent

I agree, I also think increased size and catching radius at the WR position is going to help matters.

I think Allen understands the concept. Allens arm strength gets in the way IMO. Most QB's can unleash a long ball with everything on it without overthrowing. Both QB and WR are in sync with how far its going to go IMO. (55 to 60 yards) Josh on the other hand can easily overthrow his WR's on a long ball throw at any place and time on the playing field. (75 to 80 yards) The way I see it the more throws you can make and the more area you can cover increases the time/ practice it takes to gel wth the WR's IMO. In other words increased reps/ practice time needed kind of goes with the territory. Myself personally, Allen will learn to adjust and continue to improve his long ball throws over time.

Not for me, I'm decent in chess until you start putting time limitations on the moves. Although I can see how it would help a QB, especially one as intelligent as Josh Allen.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your possible explanation on how this could happen.

Somewhere in the night

Yes, I'm wearing the oil-protective short lifespan R95 with replacement filters. Expensive, and well worth it in my humble opinion. It does the job and doesn't take away from health professionals that need the N95. This is not the facts only thread and just because we have a difference of opinion does not mean I'm trolling you. I speak from experience working in an enviroment where airborne particulates are prevalent. Contact tracing here in the US is not doing enough and I touched on some of the reasons why. Looking for solutions not confrontations...

We got a little side tracked on why I think going public is a good idea. Its not out of personal preference. Having the names and addresses posted publicly allows the public an ability to trace themselves IMO. Some people could be feeding contact tracers bogus information just to scare someone they don't like and put them under quarantine. Contact tracing on its own is leaving to many gaps in the tracking and just not working well enough IMO. Posting the names eliminates all the time consuming investigations, all the false reporting, and puts the information out there quick so it can warn people immediately IMO. A persons address is no secret. So you know that persons sick or may have sick family members. I'm not sure what the big deal is to be honest. Covid 19 is normally gone within a couple of weeks. I'm not sure why warning people you have it is an invasion of privacy. Drastic times call for drastic measures. I knew months ago the best way we have to combat Covid 19 is to wear a mask. Not just any mask. I wear an R95 mask. Very comfortable and easier to wear in comparison to the N95 IMO. Now that they are readily available to the public, I encourage my fellow Bills fans to do the same. Working Nuclear in the past has given me 1st hand knowledge and experience in dealing with airborne particulates. Myself personally, most of the country is still out of sync with the data available. I keep hearing it, over and over again. "I did everything by the book yet I just tested positive anyway." Wear a better mask people. How do you suppose 6 feet is a safe social distance when its been scientically proven droplets from a sneeze can travel twice as far? Yes, having an 82 year old mom with underlying conditions probably has me going a bit overboard with precautions. Thanks for the insightful response ( per usual) much appreciated.

Myself personally, If my next door neighbor has Covid 19 its going to change the precautions I take. Windows wouldn't be opened on the side facing their house. I'll avoid letting their kids run up to me. Like most people I don't wear a mask doing yard work ,but I would probably start. I could go on and on about how knowing where Covid 19 has taken up residence might help me. No, I highly doubt theives are looking to exploit people with the virus because for one its an indication theres probably allot of occupants at home under quarantine. Two you might end up with the virus. Today, I can think of over 77,000 reasons why contact tracing isn't working well. In some states you can't even narrow down the case load by zip code. Like its some deep, dark, well kept secret. The way I see it knowing where the virus is and who has it would save lives. We have a difference of opinion...

I'm not suggesting we stop contact tracing altogether.( It helps ) Simply pointing out why contact tracing by itself leaves to many holes. Names and places have to be given for the tracing to take place. Are we looking to manage the spread or stop it? (40%) Question, If you don't mind my asking? Does it look like we are managing the spread of Covid 19 properly here in the US? Anyone?

No, no, possibly depending on the circumstances, and no. ( IMO ) Good questions, thanks