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Makes me love them even more. Rosen in Buffalo please.

NFL, Bigger, stronger, faster and less room to run around in. He will break just like RG3

I think he is more like a Ford Pinto from years past. Those cars used to blow up as soon as you bought them. Same difference both in the IR shop never to return. The Pinto had issues with the back of them while Jackson had issues with his tiny little girl bottom half of his body.

Exactly how I would feel if they draft him and did it by moving up to get him. I think I would compare it to the EJ draft, imagine instead of moving back and drafting EJ/Kiko they moved up to top 5 to just take EJ. Yuk Coming out of college with the same hype and the same issues. He is a big guy that looks like a QB maybe he can get better or maybe he will be a career backup and then traded away. I would rather have a QB that does not have accuracy issues.

Missed Buffalo entirely and landed in Jersey, Jets on the clock

I agree, make it a warm game.

Like I said earlier I hope we do not lose out to Miami or Arizona because they were faster to the move then our sleeping GMs have always been. Jets have already shafted us so for the love of the Bills please no Miami/Arizona sneak in. I know we have the capital but are they as willing to spend as another team is, esspecialy if it is more just to block another team.

IMO we have to jump Miami no matter what so IMO move up to 6 or 7 now and then see how the draft plays out, if we need to move up more do it otherwise 6 or 7 should be a very safe spot to block Miami if Giants go Barkley/Chubb and Denver is for sure going Nelson or Chubb we should for sure get one of the top 3 QBs. I would hate to see on draft night that Miami moved to 5 or 6 and then Arizona sold the farm to also move up, we end up on the smelly end of the stick stuck at 12. Move up to 6 or 7 now to lock it in to at least that like the Jets made happen for sure get what they covet IMO. This way IMO if Miami goes to the Giants to jump us with a big trade we can give the Giants pick 6 and the farm to trump Miami's move. Haha, I wonder what he has been searching on the web for it to come up with that, lol

Rudolph This is where I am at. I want Darnold,Rosen, Mayfield but wouldn't mind Rudolph if push comes to shove.

Not worth a top 12 pick, why bother

QB driven league and this draft has a good 6 really good prospects at QB, even a few later round guys that could end up better then average. IMO this is nothing but wishful thinking. 2013 was nothing like this draft. Not only did we get EJ that draft we got Kiko. No way that would happen in this draft, you need to move up not down to land one of the top kids from this draft.

Yes I want my favorite team to have one of the top 3 prospects from this draft and yes I do not care what it costs. Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield or bust. This thread is about a top 20 mock in anyone's idea of how they think the top 20 could go. I see you did not offer a top 20 on how you think it would go, is it because in your draft no trades just sitting on Whaley hands ready to take some Jackson scraps that are left on the table at 12? I know your upset your Tyrod dream did not happen about them keeping Tyrod just to tick some posters off but your like everyone else you want the team to get better. Well it starts by getting one of the best from this class and if it costs a bunch to do it then I see zero problem with it. IMO fans will be more forgiving to this staff if they went for trying to get one of the top prospects over the waiting for a QB to fall from the sky Whaley way. Take a step back in 2018 and use the stock now to get the QB(very good QB draft to do it in) and finish the rebuild next off season for a solid team for the rookie to start with in 2019. The got to win now just to watch players leave at the end of every contract because all our QBs stink up the place needs to end. Build around a QB first otherwise this backup QB and late round QBs will have this staff fired like all the rest. Barkley is exactly what they need. Eli can make a few more playoff runs before he retires, no need to draft a QB this season for them IMO. I am not asking for your approval in this thread I was asking posters to post there mock 20 and all you did was jump at me about the Giants, it's my opinion I guess we will see come draft day.

Only a idiot team would want such a inaccurate passer. He is a bust they do not want Allen only the Jets and Cleveland are stupid enough to pick him in the top 10. They want Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield because they are the top 3. Yes Rosen in Buffalo please

Yes Rosen in Buffalo please. Just say no to Bust Allen and scroney legs Jackson

Yes Rosen in Buffalo please

I agree, I am really only in support of 3 of the picks and Jackson is not one of them(DJ Chark, Frank Ragnow,Darius Leonard). IMO with no trade up and all these picks this draft is a disappointment. Thank you Virgil again for the time put in to run another draft. Very interesting results

Haha, take a look at the lower half of Jackson, toothpick legs. Comparing players let's say a NFL player is like a real Mack truck and Jackson a little school girl. Jackson will get creamed in the NFL, lots of IR is in his career IMO

I agree with Fitz/James, wish we didn't need to QB so bad, would have loved to see one of them here. I figured it would be tough on some for the entire 1st round so I tried to limit top 20 considering IMO Bills trade both of our 1st to move up. IMO some trades will again happen after pick 20. See my post above

What is your mock 20? I see only 2 trades that will happen/happened in the top 20. One for Jets/Indy and one for Bills/Cleveland. My mock 20, list yours to compare what you think/hope will happen. 1- Cleveland- Darnold -QB 2- Giants- Barkley -RB 3- Jets- Allen- QB 4- trade to Buffalo- Rosen- QB 5- Denver- Mayfield- QB 6- Indy- Chubb- DE 7- Tampa- Nelson- OG 8- Chicago-MFitz- CB 9- San Fran- Ward- CB 10- Oakland- RSmith- ILB 11- Miami- DJames- SS 12- trade to Cleveland- TEdmunds-OLB 13- Washington- Vita Vea- DT 14- Green Bay - HLandry-OLB 15-Arizona- Jackson-QB 16-Baltimore- Davenport-DE 17-LAChargers-DPayne-DT 18-Seattle-LeightonEsch-OLB 19-Dallas-CRidley-WR 20-Detroit-TBryan-DT

IMO Rudolph is the target if available but more then likely will end up Lauletta. IMO Pats and Miami will take one by round 2 with some kind of move up to the top of RD2 if Buffalo trades up again to top 10. The way I see it the AFCe could have all new QBs playing as starters by 2019. I can see Miami and NE fighting over Rudolph in RD2 or end of Rd1 and Lauletta going to the loser of it. If Buffalo sits and waits at 12 IMO Miami will take who Buffalo is waiting to drop to them(Rosen or Mayfield if cards fall and Denver does not take a QB). IMO Miami and Arizona is going to tick off OBD by moving ahead of them to take who they want to drop to them with a double wammy of no QB worth pick 12 showing waiting for a QB to fall from the sky will equal fail everytime at OBD. Not possible waiting at 12, with pick 12 you get what's left.

Funny you point to two teams that had a franchise QB(HOF QBs at that) for those two to learn behind. It does not work for a later picked QB most of the time when a team does not have a franchise worthy QB to sit and learn behind, let alone a HOF QB to sit behind.

If they go the Whaley way and wait for a QB to fall to them then IMO expect the same OBD fail at drafting one of the top QBs because other teams will make it happen just like the Jets already did in making sure they will get one of the top 3. I would like to think this staff is different and waiting for a QB to fall from the sky is not different it's the same fail that has been going on since Kelly retired. Grow a pair and go for it, IMO fans will respect that more then trying to build around a backup QB like all the other failed staffs did and got fired.

IMO this staff will get criticized badly for not pulling the trigger on trying for a better QB from the draft, they waited last season and made us think it was to build capital to do it this draft while also making fans get stuck watching Rex choice at QB another season. Now if they fail to try again for a franchise worthy QB from the draft and then you add in next years draft that will have nothing for us to draft a QB(expected to be a very bad draft for drafting a QB) then I expect fans to turn on them. Remember how Chan looked his last season well IMO no top QB to give the fans for the 2019 season will make this staff the walking dead in 2020 or earlier IMO. Now if they spend big on grabbing a top QB prospect from this draft and the kid fails bad in 2-3 years then IMO fans will give this staff props for trying and will expect them to draft another top prospect in 2020 or 2021 to try again. IMO without pulling the trigger to go for a top QB prospect makes them like all the others that have been here, add in this draft has a good 6 to pick from makes it a even bigger burn if they fail at going for one. IMO the cards are laid out they either do or do not, sadly IMO and many others the do not is not a option if they want to make it past 2019-2020. IMO most fans will gladly take two steps back in 2018 to build a team around a franchise worthy QB era to start in 2019. With a young top rookie pushing McC he might end up a solid enough guy to trade that could pay this team back a pick when the rookie is ready to take over.

Why get rid of Tyrod if your just going to draft a QB just like him. No thanks I want a true pocket QB. Hey dont give Jackson too much to learn did his pushers see his WLscore? Limited in a simplified system, Tyrod all over again. It is sad how some want to settle for what is left, the old Whaley way. I'd rather see this staff take a real swing at getting better. Is it just me or is it the old Tyrod diehards on these boards that are pushing hard to draft his clone? Looking at the names posting support for Jackson sure like the same ones that wouldn' t let Tyrod go. I can hear them now, McCoy is only good because Jackson makes him be a better RB, if the OC would just dumb down the system and Taylor make it for Jackson we would be great. JMO

I went Haynes we need to find a solid LB core. I am not a fan of how this draft is going. So far I am only happy with 3 of the pick in this mock. DJ Chark, WR, LSU Frank Ragnow, C, Darius Leonard, LB,