GoBills808

guess who had shortest SB odds as recently as two preseasons ago

you people clearly arent gamblers lol

yeah no thats not how it works

Agree, I thought he was insightful

No DE in the top10 of salaries has a Super Bowl, so don't pay DEs No corner in the top10 of salaries has a Super Bowl so don't pay DBs No QB in the top 10 salaries has a Super Bowl so don't pay quarterbacks Can you not see how bad this argument you're making is

don't go too far LBs dont move the line like that

so first off im hesitant to agree that ROI=contract size/Superbowls...i think that needs more work secondly- if your point is that signing bigger contracts (outside QB) limits your ability to improve the roster elsewhere the answer is yes, obviously. but singling out WR is pointless if you're trying to argue that it's not an important position. go look at the top 10 or 20 or whatever highest contracts at ANY of the important positions- LT, CB...not a lot of Super Bowl rings there either. that is because there are not a lot of Super Bowl rings to go around what it doesn't mean is that you shouldn't invest at those positions

yes, and we could delve deeper into how both contracts were structured to almost ensure they remained underpaid relative to their peers but my point was- using lack of SBs w highest paid wideouts to determine their value is very shallow analysis

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no its meaningless if zero of the top 10 highest paid QBs (by far the most important position) have SB rings, what it tells you is that using lack of SB rings amongst highest-paid players to suggest they're not important to winning super bowls is bad analysis

we won a couple of ugly games down the stretch last yr tbh beat the patriots and bailey zappe w under 300 yards of offense

and of the top 20 highest paid QBs only 3 have SB rings it doesnt mean anything except there arent a lot of super bowl rings to go around

I can probably quote this verbatim from people saying the same thing about Claypool as recently as last week

I agree w this I'm not trying to bash anyone... I'm trying to explain that I think this particular not-totally-useful stat is probably correlated to a larger and previously existing issue

K Not sure where you're going w this

We just keep getting deeper at wr

The Chiefs pass because they tried a sneak that turned Mahomes kneecap upside down and decided it wasn't worth it, plus they can scheme short yardage situations effectively

The Bills DO sneak because they have to is what I'm saying I don't have the stats but I would guess we are near the bottom of the league in conversion rate on third/4th and short RB CARRIES ONLY over the last 2+seasons And I would doubt the Eagles have anywhere near the same difficulty in that area

because they're effective because they have a terrific oline because they dont mind using their QB as a battering ram

The eagles have had one of the best offensive lines in the league so no, they do not have the same problem

So the QB can't win it alone but Mahomes>Allen because Super Bowls😂😂 Make it stop

Throw Myles Garrett in there too

He wasn't last year

Yeah When you have the 4th most productive RB and you're still calling exclusively QB keep on third/fourth and short...you have a run game issue

If you notice that's what we've been doing on almost all short yardage situations We have not been able to run the ball effectively on obvious run downs and that kills you in the RZ