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Either/or for me No need to ditch QB and staff, just one or the other

😂😂That's such a bad wr room no offense to our guys

100% part of the equation. allen's advanced efficiency metrics, stats i put a good amount of stock in, last yr were all top1-3 due in large part to the historically low negative play rate that you reference. this season they've fallen (some would have said predictably so😂😂) to around top1-8ish range for a variety of factors...the largest of which is most likely due to a combination of mean regression and offense structure full disclosure- i predicted last preseason the 2024 offense had the potential to be poor by conventional standards, due to both lack of faith in brady and personnel. and while on the face of it that was inaccurate (offense was incredibly efficient, allen won MVP, etc) i think there did exist underlying issues that were masked by our negative play% which was bound to return to normal levels at some point. now that it has, we're seeing more of the kind of offense i thought was the likely result of playing this kind of system, w this personnel and coaching staff larger point being...imo we are not being set up for success on offense. doubling down on what amounted to a statistical outlier of a season, offensively speaking, in 2024 was incredibly poor judgement from the FO. allen's play, while not up to mvp levels of last yr, is far from the reason we see such inconsistent results- the margin for error in brady's scheme is too thin when the difference between looking borderline unstoppable/outright lost is a never-before-seen-in-league-history negative play rate

correct qb2 is allen 2024 qb1 is allens 2025 pace its not lamar and allen

here are two QBs guess which one is the MVP QB1 4,041 yards 28TDs/9ints 70%completion + 587 yards rushing and 13TDs or QB2 3,731 yards 28TDs/6INTs 63.6%completion + 531 yards rushing and 12TDs

Yup Bills 40 Bucs 23

Yup for me 2021 was the year we let it slip

i just remember coming off the afccg loss and thinking that 2021 was the typical trajectory of a team that's been knocking on the door. i put down a big SB future bills 2021 NFL champs lol could just be a personal thing but i haven't felt that way since. 13seconds game was when i started having real doubts, i was all in on mcdermott and beane prior

fair agree on philly i dont buy the 'ready to win' thing tbh bengals went from 5yrs of missing the playoffs straight to the Super Bowl we were coming off back to back playoff appearances and an AFCCG, we were plenty ready imo

not close is true but i maintain we were closest in 2021 and im not going to kill them for trying something different, even if i think it's the wrong approach, but i think it's fair to say we've been losing ground ever since. or at least not really progressing

I think I'm more in the camp that there are multiple paths to a championship and I'm not saying the one we're on won't work even tho early returns are not promising. My contention has been- trying to small ball your way on offense to a Super Bowl means you have to be really buttoned up everywhere and very sound situationally...I can't say I'm confident that's ever really been our strong suit

2019 chiefs and 2020 Bucs had those kind of offenses

here ya go

ok look just put me on ignore already, im tired of having this same discussion

meh sulking is your word. im not offended by the way he looks on the sidelines

i mean hes literally the only guy id want out there when the chips are down lol i dont particularly care about his demeanor. i think it's just a narrative. i care about results and he stacks them up

bro i am being unbiased. im telling you allen's play is not the problem and you are not listening. do i need to pull up his stats this season again

yes unfortunately the way the team is run doesnt promote this kind of self actualization it's easy to say 'if i was allen i wouldn't gaf about anything, id just go out and play my game' but realistically he's dealing w a HC that's constantly in the media saying he needs to change the way he plays, a revolving door of untested OCs the current of which is determined to render your abilities as ineffective as possible, and the kind of supporting cast that a respectable franchise wouldn't dare saddle the best QB in the league with...tough to rise above all that

thank you capt obvious

lmfao are you serious w this well here you go! here's the solution!

lesean mccoy kept making this point on his podcast we're putting guys out there who wouldn't start on other teams and expecting great results

lol the willingness of this fan base to lay blame w Allen for all this organization's woes is priceless 'allen chose coleman!'- no, that's beanes job. 'allen chose brady and dorsey!'- no, that's mcdermott's job. ffs people i would love, for once in his entire career, allen getting some legit offensive coaching around him

just way too many dumb conclusions being drawn from that miami game you can't collapse at 6-3

correct been saying this since they promoted brady. you don't need a qb like allen for this system and his trade value would be enough to shore up the entirety of the roster

im just seeing some mental errors like missing an obvious stunt vs miami from brown ...looks like something that should be easy to clean up tbh