jrober38

What I'm hoping for is for the Bills to become a good NFL team. Having a decent QB instead of league worst QB play would help that cause considerably.

Unless you're Terry or Kim Pegula, this is speculation. If the Bills finish 3-13 with the worst offense in the NFL, anyone's head could be on the chopping block.

These are all backups. Let's stick to the first choice starters around the league right now, ignoring the backups who are playing due to injuries. There's no one worse than Josh Allen at this point in the season.

I've been watching the games. Our offense is awful because we have the worst group of QBs in the league. Look at all the other bad offenses around the league and what do they have in common? Terrible QB play.

Name a worse starting QB this year. Allen is 32nd in QB Rating, 32nd in Total QBR, 32nd in pass yards per game and the Bills have the worst scoring offense in the league.

When the injured starting QB is the worst starting QB in the NFL.

The Jags have the best pass D Allen will face all year.

Foster has been getting open all year, including early in the season. His issue has been drops and very poorly thrown passes that are either out of bounds or beyond his reach.

Barkley has a below average arm, isn't a physically imposing passer, and a guy who doesn't move around much and isn't going to make any plays with his legs. He seems like the type of guy who should have carved out a role as a half decent backup, but for whatever reason that hasn't happened. Ultimately he was a 4th round pick for a reason. Agreed. Yesterday really put into perspective how awful Allen, Peterman and Anderson have been for us this season.

Agreed. Robert Foster made more plays yesterday than Benjamin has made all year. Cut the guy and give his reps to Foster.

Didn't he get benched that year? He only played 5 games in 2016.

Barkley most certainly was not behind an established starter in Chicago.

None of these things really have anything to do with being a successful QB in the NFL. The last bit of #3 is pure speculation.

Exactly. We know Allen will be the starter next year. What we need to evaluate are the other 10 guys on offense, and Barkley allows us to do that if he keeps playing well. If he craps the bed, put Allen back in.

Right. The season is over and we need to be evaluating for next year. We know Allen is the starter next year. What we don't know is who the other 10 guys with him will be. Yesterday was the first time all year we could actually evaluate the rest of the offense, and some of the pieces didn't look all that bad. I'd give Barkley a couple games so that we can continue evaluating the OL, Jones, Foster, etc, and then give Allen the last 3 games to get another 150-200 offensive snaps under his belt.

You don't know this. Yesterday was far and away the best QB play we've seen all year so saying we'd have been just as inept as we were against the Packers, Titans and Texans doesn't make much sense. The Bills know Allen is going to be their starting QB next year. That's a given. What we don't know is what will happen with the other 10 guys on offense. Yesterday was valuable in the sense that it allowed us to actually evaluate all the other players on offense. We saw Foster can get behind a defense, we saw that Jones is consistently getting better, we saw that the offensive line might not be a total reconstruction, and we saw that Marcus Murphy can contribute. We weren't able to evaluate any of those things with Allen, Peterman or Anderson on the field.

I disagree. If Allen goes out against the Jags and looks like crap after a month sitting and learning on the bench, there should be cause for concern. Ignoring the Bills, this year is weird in the sense that the rookie QBs all play for teams where the coach will get fired. Cleveland already fired their HC and OC and Mayfield has been excellent since. The Jets are going to fire Bowles, and the Cards should fire Wilks even though it's his first year because he's been awful. Yesterday showed that Daboll's offense can succeed with competent QB play. That being a reason Allen was struggling no longer seems valid.

The game tape suggested the opposite. Allen had been steadily regressing since half time of the Vikings game. Our offense was completely non existent for 12 quarters with him at QB.

I don't think he needs to be on the field to develop. If he's not ready, then he's not ready.

I think Barkley playing is an important barometer for where the offense is the next time Allen takes the field. For example, if Barkley plays pretty well, and then Allen gets back out there and struggles, it should be a cause for concern. The issue for me so far is that the other QBs have been so bad that we've defaulted to assuming that the OC, WRs and OL aren't good enough. Yesterday showed that probably isn't the case. Daboll called a great game, Jones and Foster made plays, the OL blocked and the Bills ran the ball extremely well. It removed the idea that Allen is struggling because everything else around him is so bad. It showed the other things aren't as terrible as advertised. Our problem all season has been horrendous QB play. At this point I want to see a bigger sample size from Barkley. Give him the Jags game and see if yesterday was a fluke or if he's actually a massive upgrade over the other QBs we've had. If Barkley tanks, which is likely considering how good the Jags pass D is, then you go back to Allen the next week.

Foster made more plays yesterday than Benjamin has made all year. At this point I don't understand how they can keep Benjamin on the roster any longer. Go with Jones, Foster and Pryor and see if they can develop ahead of next season. Foster won't be a #1 guy, but he looks like a decent situational deep threat.

Barkley has to start. The offense looked better yesterday than it has in 2 years. Daboll called a great game, and the receivers made plays. For the sake of trying to build an offense, he should be the one playing so we can evaluate the other 10 guys on offense. If he becomes less effective, you can make a change, but I think it sends the wrong message to bench the QB who gave us the best performance of the year on offense.

Incredible. He looked like a real QB and he got the wide receivers involved for the first time in like 3 years. Daboll called an amazing game and Barkley played great. His performance makes you wonder about the other QBs we have on the roster and why they've been so terrible.

We know Barkley is a terrible NFL QB because we just signed him off the street and he didn't make a team coming out of camp. The guy's career numbers are horrible.

Should be a good test to see if he learned anything on the sidelines, or was able to reflect on anything and improve his game since he got injured. Jags are #2 in total D, #1 in pass D, #6 in points and #6 in QB Rating.