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We would only be in slightly better position if we didn't make the playoffs, this is dumb, real issue was not trading with Houston the much better choice for a lower draft pick.

Hey its more like 3 months of beautiful weather July kicks it off.

We honestly need one of the top 2 picks to get our guy, but that will cost 3 number ones plus, I think I would do that for the number 1.

This feels like another way to stick it to the Browns and their fan base. Man Bellicheat can hold a grudge. I swear I can't be the only one thinking this. Didn't just kneel, wore pig cop socks, supported a genocidal leader, and his girlfriend tweeted a picture of an owner and a team icon as a plantation slave owner and an uncle tom. Burned a couple bridges there buddy.

Flutie, Taylor, Fitz, Bledsoe,.......Orton?

We could get him if we traded down 5 10 spots at 22.

I agree on Rosen and culture, and that plus concussions equals not worth it for me. The scouts might do that but it's far more likely he gave them a reason to think he is an arrogant rich kid. I tend to believe where there is smoke there is a fire. It's up to Beane and mcd to understand if it's the Ryan leaf type of arrogance or the Tom Brady type.

Still doesn't make him racist, but I sure don't want him on the team, the stuff he said goes way beyond what's okay to say even as jokes. He seems to be our only good o linemen now though which sucks. And Dion Dawkins got into a fight at a club when he was a college kid, not a deal breaker for me.

Just using racial slurs as a joke or a hazing tactic does not make you a racist. (Sorry if that hurts someones feelings.)It does however make you an a-hole, bully, piece trash human. I don't think that this management would have picked him up a couple years ago. He did, just apparently couldn't coach or hire the right coaches.

Leadership is a quality that someone can judge and I am using the information I have to judge that quality, and I don't like what I see. That doesn't mean I am right but, it's just how I perceive it right now. He hasn't missed more than a couple in the past 10 years, and has not missed any with us.

Arrogant O Lineman that cares about football without a injury history. Don't see the relevance.

It was not about the classes, and it could have been about the coaching. I honestly dislike Mora as much as Rosen.

How many of us do you think get to meet nfl players? We don't so our judgement comes from his actions and what other people say. I see a spoiled arrogant rich kid with an injury history. Don't think that's a guy I want to root for.

Well Mora`s worst seasons as a coach were when Rosen was his QB.

In the Ron Rivera/McDermott D MLB is very important so I disagree, if you can get a kuechley type player at 22 you take him.

Great except trading up for Rosen, Pass.

Ugh, I really hope we don't pick this kid. I could see him leaving football like Jake Locker did after a couple of seasons and a couple more concussions. Side note when did people start sticking up for the spoiled rich arrogant types?

Looking at this post leads me to believe you did not watch any games kapernick played in the season before last. Even in his best season he was on par with Tyrod, maybe slightly better that season he went to the Super Bowl. He always averaged under 200 passing yards and could run, we've seen that before. During Kapernicks last two seasons Tyrod was the much better QB. His last 20 games in his last two seasons he had 22 touchdowns and 11 picks, and you think that's a good QB? 1.05 touchdowns a game and .5 interceptions, that's what we call a back up at best.

You do know other players kneeled and kept there jobs. I think his downfall was he was not that good his last year + wearing the socks on the field portraying cops as pigs, oh yeah and praising the Cuban dictator Fidel Castro(he probably would have started for Miami last year if he didn't praise Castro). All that equals not worth it for the premium back up/starter money he wanted. Sorry the NFL is a business and a very competitive one at that, and if his talent outweighed his blemishes he would be on a team.

Kap is being blacklisted because he wants starter money, and will cost a team even more money because of his actions(the kneeling, the pro Fidel Castro stuff, and the cop as a pig socks). Whether you agree or disagree, it's a business and he didn't look like a starter his last year.

Will you buy me one to? I also live out of town but am willing to bet Allen goes top ten for sure.

Don't act like you don't have a crush on him, we can all see it. Just don't let it get too weird.

Also has a rock solid body. Am I right Sky Diver!?!?

(Stroke related thread)

Lol he was not even close to the exact prospect, much different talent level. That doesn't mean he will be good but, he has much more upside than EJ ever had. The kid shows flashes of greatness, has all the physical tools, along with the willingness to work hard. That's why he doesn't automatically suck. He might end up sucking, but it's far from an open and shut case.