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My final Mock draft (detailed in Turbo's Mock draft Thread. Includes a trade down with NYG to 34 and a traded up with ARI to 47 34 Shavon Revel Jr. CB | East Carolina 47 Tyleik Williams DL | Ohio State 62 Jack Sawyer EDGE | Ohio State 99 Jamaree Caldwell DL | Oregon 132 Tory Horton WR | Colorado State 169 Caleb Ransaw S | Tulane 173 Oronde Gadsden II TE | Syracuse 206 Shaun Dolac LB | Buffalo

Would take more than 30 and 56 to move up to 15. JJ chart has 15 worth 1050, 30 worth 620 and 56 worth 340. Other value charts are more severe. Prob would cost 30, 56 and 109 (maybe more) and that's a price too steep. Don't like a safety at 109 - they seem to like Bishop and signed Forest from PHI. Get me a speedster at WR at 109 (Horton or Thornton maybe). We won't a pick on a QB this year, maybe next year.

When the pressure was on, Josh was better than Rahm which is crazy

Nope - Dane and Tre would start over him. The CB we take at #30 or #56 will hopefully be ready to start

Like it but not likely Golden makes it to 30, Porter at 109 would be a steal, he's more likely to go in the high 50s low 60s, Zah at 170 would be great, not sure why Collins is listed as Edge instead of DT

They used all of Rahm's drives though, you can't discount that.

Solid as Pearce has been falling due to off the field questions (meaning BUF prob avoids him). Love all the other picks other than Royals.

Pass as you need more than one player and A starting lineup with Tre or Dane at CB2 aint good

cuz that beautiful beach is there the other 362 days of the year

Deon was dominant in 2023 and played with a broken back in 2024. Don't confuse lazy with very hurt

All reasonable

Morrison too if his hips are okay. I like Porter a ton too

If healed, he would fit in well, he has the equivalent CB story to Josh's QB - unknown that one team gave the chance to

Agreed - at least 2, maybe 3 as jones is our only big body and he dropped off the face of the earth last year

Don't really like it. No way in the world the Bills get the 94th pick (2nd pick in round 4 I believe) and a 26 2nd from CLE to move back 3 spot, No way the Bills give up picks 62, 94 and 169 to move up 9 spots in the 2nd. Simply stay where hey are and draft Swinson at 56 and Royals at 62 (both should be there at those picks). Why are we drafting 2 Olinemen and only one CB? I agree 100%, CB is our glaring need and I think there will be plenty of really Good dt's at 56 and 62. I wouldn't hate us going CB, DT, WR and DT (with the aquired 3rd rounder) as Edge isn't a high priority THIS YEAR. Next year could be a different story.

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Love all of these but, my gut tells me: 34 Nolen will be gone as will Grant (and they'll also be gone before 30), so we'll have to choose between Tyleik williams and amy remaining CB's: Morrison, Revel, etc 56 I think Landon gets overdrafted - if we want him it would have to be at 34 and I don't want him at 34 62 Porter - love porter but 50/50 he's there at 62. If we go DL at 34, I have no problem taking him at 56. 62 - we should have a really goo wr here (Royal)- You're choice of Watts is really solid, my only issues is he's not starting in 2025 My gut is with his size/speed combo Thornton goes higher than 132 - love him as a high risk/reward player

From my experience, the real draft never is close to the mock drafts - some players go a lot earlier; some a lot later. But, I think Unless someone falls that they covet if we can get a 3rd rounder by moving back from 30, I think we do it in a second. It would Allow us to fill all 4 major needs (DL, Edge, CB, WR) in the 2nd and 3rd round in a draft that looks great in the 1nd and 3rd round (and not so great in round 1). In the end, from someone who was crushed that we took the wrong Josh in 2018, I'll never question Beane all that much.

Yep - NYGs are probably our best trade down partner due to the relationship between Schoen and Beane and the NYG's desperation at QB. Here's the latest mock I just did which actually offered me the NYG Trade: 30 and 109 for 34 and 65 - NYG drafted Dart at 30. 34. Walter Nolen DT Ole Miss - I took him over Grant which I'm not sure I would do, but, I think (a) his pass rush upside is too high to pass up, (b) he's only 21 and (c) I'm confident I'll be able to couple him with a 1T run stuffer later. I could easily be talked into Grant though. 56. Shavon Revel CB East Carolina - Injury concerns probably caused him to slide as he's a 1st round talent and maybe the 3rd best CB in the draft. We get him late in the 2nd. I like his loyalty as ECU is the only DIV 1 school to offer him a scholarship, so he stayed there instead of cashing in and transferring. With his ACL ?, I intend to draft another CB rather early. 62. Kyle Williams WR Washington State - Our new deep threat - possibly the quickest WR in the draft out of breaks and has 4.4 speed. Insane production in 2024: 70 catches for 1,198 yards and 14 touchdowns. At 5'11", 190 pounds he's got some thickness too him - Basically Diggs' size with a lot more speed. 65. Bradyn Swinson EDGE LSU - Plenty of quality Edges were available here (some rated higher in the mock), but I like this guys run support, bend and all around game soI took him. Undeniable motor and huge arms (33") - something Beane loves. 132. Jamaree Caldwell DT Oregon - here's the 332 pound fatty to supplement Oliver and Nolen. He's a poor man's Grant, with more consistency (higher floor) but certainly a lower ceiling. He possibly could take over from Jones in running downs, who we may see cut if he doesn't bounce back from a bad 2024. 169. Zah Frazier CB UTSA - If revel isn't 100% at the start of the season, here's the alternative. Only missed two tackles in 2024 and is a willing/active run defender - two qualities McDermott looks for in a CB. He had 6 INT's in 2024, is huge at 6'2" but could use some muscle (186 pounds). 5th fastest CB at combine with a 4.36 40. I would be willing to take this guy a lot higher than 169, even at #65 if we don't think edge is a priority. 170. Caleb Ransaw CB Tulane - Very good size, played every position from Safety to corner to slot to LB - insane athlete whom I'm willing to take earlier. I'm grooming him for safety. 173. Jack Kiser LB Notre Dame - Solid tackler, above average athlete, good size. Best LB available at this point. 177. Mitchell Evans TE Notre Dame - Solid overall TE, replacement for Morris and will compete with Davidson for final TE spot. 206. Alex Mastromanno P Florida State - averaged 50 yards per kick and 45 net - Australian guy and will probably win our punting job

Yep it's a great year to be DT needy and have 10 picks. I don't see any way we don't draft 2 DT's and also probably 2 CB's. I think there are DT's we could draft in the 5th or 6th round who will be better than the kid we drafted from Duke last year in the 3rd round.

Yep but Farmer is more of a 3T than a 1T - he's a player definitely on our radar if we get a Grant/Tyleik/Collins 1T type early in the draft. Farmer is big enough to play 1T occasionally (maybe passing downs) but at 305, he's not big enough to focus there. A combo of Grant and Farmer, to go along with Oliver could be a game changer

Yep plenty available this year in later rounds: Tyleik Williams 2nd Collins or Walker 3rd West or Phillips 4th Caldwell 5th Cam Jackson 6th I probably missed a few

Yep I think Nolen >> Grant

if that's what the value chart says, i have no problem paying that price

I think the move down from #30 to the low 30s to early 40s will be available as one of the qb desperate teams will be looking to move up. Can we gte a 3rd by doing so? I think so but we may need to throw a pick back (4th, 5th or 6th?) which is fine as we have 10 picks. Moving up from 56 to, say 42 would cost us 56, 109, 132 and 169 according to the draft calculator = too rich for my blood. If they did draft 2 DT's in the first 3 rounds - say harmon at #30 if he drops then Alfred Collins at #62 that would work well. I think I like Collins almost as much as Grant and you'd get him a round later.