BuffaloHokie13

Since Bowles took over as HC of the Jets, Tyrod's average game against them is 20/31 for 229 and 2 TDS, with 6 carries for 32 yards on the ground as well. YPA of 7.5, TD% of 5%, TD/TO of 3.33, Passer Rating of 98.7, and an ANY/A of 6.80. I'd imagine they respect what he brings to the table.

You might want to let the kid take an NFL snap first.

Since 1990 the merger in 1970, only 3 (I think) meet the criteria. Favre, Peyton, and Brady. I'm not sure if Favre hit the division title number or not and I didn't feel like checking, but he hit everything else.

I see you've abandoned the McCown bit since that was hilariously incorrect. And I'd happily argue that the Falcons would have been at least as successful with Cousins as they've been with Ryan.

I like it.

I don't see why not. For Dave: Completion %: Brees 66.9, Cousins 65.4, McCown 60.4 YPA: Brees 7.59, Cousins 7.72, McCown 6.82 TD/INT: Brees 2.18, Cousins 1.82, McCown 1.24 Passer Rating: Brees 97.0, Cousins 93.6, McCown 80.8 ANY/A: Brees 6.99, Cousins 6.72, McCown 5.12 Are you starting to see why your comparison is silly WEO? For WEO: YPG: Brees 284.9, Cousins 262.5, McCown 180.7 TD/G: Brees 2.042, Cousins 1.810, McCown 1.158 Looking at full careers and not the last 3 years, the most comparable QBs to Cousins statistically are Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, and Ben Roethlisberger.

For 1 year; as opposed to the past 3, or their careers as a whole...

Yes. In 14 seasons he's made the playoffs 6 times, and every time he's won at least a playoff game they've won the Super Bowl. They've also had 6 seasons at or under .500 in that same span. I'm not going to apologize for hoping that a QB we trade up for is more consistently successful than Eli, who is incredibly streaky. I'll take good Eli any day of the week, but there are quite a few QBs I'd put well ahead of him because of their consistency. You were the one who said he checks off most of the boxes. At this point he most certainly does not.

Except he isn't and doesn't. He meets exactly 2 of the OP's wishes. Super Bowl Appearances and win. He's started 13 seasons, played in 216 games, made the playoffs 6 times, and won the division 3 times.

Not sure if this was posted anywhere else on the board, but I find it to be a nice breakdown of Rosen (albeit slightly biased) https://www.diehards.com/ucla/film-room-good-bad-attitude-top-nfl-draft-prospect-josh-rosen

You posted that his ceiling was Eli Manning. It wasn't surprising to see that people wanted something more consistent and less streaky as a ceiling.

My comparables, production-wise, would be Russell Wilson, Big Ben, and Matthew Stafford based on the past 3 years.

I would expect them to be good at throwing a football. Preferably to people on our team.

24 is not 22. I don't care if a QB is picked before 22 or after 22, but do not take a QB with pick 22. Especially when you have pick 21 as well.

You're just reading into things. I've read right here on this site that every QB is judged exactly the same.

Rich Hill released it last year around draft time. And yes, I know the tax burden is on the team moving up. 21 + 22 is worth ~110% of pick number 5 based on every draft trade made from 2011-2016. In that same time period trading into the top 2 has carried an average tax of 28%, trading into the top 5 has carried an average tax of 9% and trading into the top 10 has had an average tax of 4%. He actually put out 2 and they're different, not sure why. But this one is the only one I've found where if you go back and check any trade since 2011 the values actually make sense in the end. because of that, it is definitely my preferred one.

Not really. The new chart values + trade up tax puts our first 2 picks at equal value with pick 5

That looks like old Jimmy Johnson values. Some may use them, but they're a bit outdated since the wage scale came into play.

Students or student athletes? If it's the former then it isn't relevant to the point being made.

Except Sammy

Never draft a QB with pick 22.

Plan A: Trade up for Rosen Plan B: Kirk Cousins Plan C: Stand pat and take Rudolph at 21

Well it's nice to know that he has at least outlined the criteria somewhere, but it'd be nice if he included it in text in the study. Again, just my opinion.

He also watched 8 of Allen's games and 7 of Rosen's if I'm counting right. So that's 1 more deep attempt in 1 less game.