Billsfan1972

Sure make peyton Manning and Tom Brady read option rollout running QBs. Great idea.

Many though.... Thanks for the vote of confidence ?

When the Bills were winning and I complained about the bad play calling on O and lack of yards I was called names too..... Let me guess.... Bills win 9-6 and Peterman throws for 100 yards and he is called a winner.

No I team has ever thrown a rookie into a must win game with the playoffs on the line..... Closest was RJ vs. Tennessee.

That's the oc's fault then. Tyrod was the QB, you scheme an offense that plays to his strengths. And now the fans pray for a rookie fifth round pick.....

5-4 and in the playoffs as of now. This is the one game they can win along with Miami x 2 and Indy. Next week and little debate, but like it or not they are in the playoffs and are now starting a rookie fifth round pick.

Or does the Bills front office not care about the playoffs? I am not a Tyrod fan. I am more one who has questioned the FO, coaching, OC and play calling (check my threads & posts). Very simply I thought the FO was while not tanking the season, were more then content if they did go 4-12. The great start changed the narrative, but many still liked the talk about McDermott, discipline and their type of player. So now 5-4 and the playoffs on the line with the one winnable game prior to week 14 and they bench Tyrod???? Again if he went out and stunk up the joint vs. LAC you have an easier time convincing the team, fans & national media and still have 6 weeks to audition Peterman, but to do it this week defies logic. I know there is a large segment here chomping at the bit, praying for a good game from Peterman and to be cackling and beating their chests Sunday night, but again why didn't they play this week out?

Drink the Kool-Aid...... Anyone who is a first-time coach & GM has earned no respect or should be given the benefit of the doubt from an organization that has not made the playoffs in 17 years and coming off disappointing but not terrible seasons under Rex. The # here who actually have fallen for this is astounding. How much easier would it have been just to say we are going to improve the talent of this team, manage the books and be competitive. They lost me when they started by dismantling the offense, not keeping Watkins and seeing what he could accomplish if healthy and forcing TT to use him as the primary target (i.e. 8-10 targets a game), and then rebuliding the defense to where they were in 2014. A QB coach and OC that worked in installing an offense and taking advantage of TT and seeing this on the field in terms of offensive set, audibles, shotgun and seeing multiple sets and movement would tell me whether the issue is with TT or the OC. Instead we get a surprise 5-2 start, McDermott discussion as Coach of the Year and the playoffs actually a possibility. Then two losses and with still the playoffs in site a qb change at the worst possible time (a winnable game). Heck if TT was as bad vs. LAC as he was vs. NO and 5-5 then go ahead and no one get's too excited, but to do it this week just tells you how little the coaching staff knows (or how bad they have been to date if TT really really is that bad and uncoachable). And those buying the FO and coaching staff are just gullible.

So they'll make the playoffs? Tyrod was the much better option vs. LAC. They lose and sure bench him. Putting Peterman had little upside this week.

Again built in excuses. This is all the FO. I'd have waited a week as 5-5 they're toast, 6-4 they control their destiny even losing vs. KC & NE..... 17 years I just want to see the playoffs, and the first round game imo would not be vs. a great team either.....

And this year Sammy was healthy and would have seen a full year and hoped the OC featured him. Again if TT couldn't grasp the offense or execute, then I am wrong about Tyrod. I've however been resolute that the OC, HO and coaching have done him no favours.

Great in the playoff hunt with tiebreakers and 4 winnable games and this is what Bills fans expect......

And so it starts...... The defense of Peterman regardless.

It means the season is over...... KC & NE the next two weeks are much more difficult games...... This is why it is ridiculous. I supported TT, but did so with the proviso that I blamed the majority of the issues on playcalling, the OC and the pieces around him. Getting rid of his three best WR's (Woods, Goodwin & trading Watkins) entering 2017 told me all I needed to know about the Bills HO thought process. Now anyone who questions my stance, check all the threads & posts bemoaning this offense and the inability to throw throw for 300 yards or show any creativity in the passing game & WR's. However I expect a start similar to Jones' in week 17 vs. the Jets, where the beginning will be promising and will see some glimpses, however by the end it will look like a Brock Osweiller performance. Sunday night they'll be plenty of threads commending Peterman for competing and pointing out those 3-4 good passes and excited at 5-5 about how much better he'll be with another week of reps vs. KC....... Such is the life of a Bills fan......

There's different levels of garbage time and who is on the field. Benches are not cleared if it is a 14 point game with 4 minutes left. 44 points with 8 minutes left is garbage time...... Again if TT was so inept that he couldn't make a read or audible at the line then you are right. I just can't believe he made the same mistakes for 2.5 years with no growth. I blamed the OC.....

You know for a fact? I doubt anyone takes out their starters until mid fourth quarter. If I'm wrong I apologize.

Right I did not check, but can be pretty sure they did not take the field until half way through the 4th. Just thought it was interesting who was on the field. Can go on and on, but I would have liked to wait 'til after the SD game if he (TT) was just that bad....... At 5-5 sure I'll wave the white flag, but not with the season on the line should a 5th round rookie be the QB.

I am not writing out the names, but one excited poster showed Peterman completing a pass to Benjamin as the greatest example of reading a defense. I decided to see who was on the field for NO...... 21,25,26,50,57,91,92,93 are the #'s I could see....... Checked their stats and seems almost everyone was a non-starter, special teams player...... Congrats our starters (and Peterman now is the starter) had a TD drive vs. their garbage time players....

With a wink & a nod...... They begged you to be okay with a losing record under the guise of cleaning up the previous regimes mess. It was a joke.

Why because Watkins is an Elite WR and was selected #4 and when healthy put up those #'s on the Bills. He has been healthy this year and catching the few balls thrown his direction by a not so accurate passer who is throwing more to a rookie 3rd round pick (Cooper Kupp). Yes I expected a big year and he then would have had to be paid like good players are. If he stays healthy the rest of the season he will get #1 receiver money regardless of how often Goff throws to him.

Not emotional, just thought the crap people bought when the FO said in "not so many word" that they were tanking an .500 team the prior 2 years pissed me to no end. I expected a big year from Watkins.... And Boldin would have stuck imo if Watkins wasn't traded and what he saw in training camp. Tyrod's to me was given a lousy offense and game plan to work with. Geez let's go back to the threads when 5-2 as to what a D we had and all we needed was 200 yards passing a game from Tyrod...... I was the one with threads clamoring to throw for 300 like every NFL team can. This O is a joke......

Actually I did say it and temper it to some extent watching the NO game. However I watch Goff too and they have put him in very good positions to throw. The OC has done a great job with the OL, a talented WR corp (where Watkins is ignored sadly), a running game that is successful due to spreading the field and finally blowout games against weak opponents to date..... The Bills front office traded Watkins after he caught 4 straight passes in the preseason game, did not do anything to help the offense and implemented an offense that does not play to their QB's strengths. The running game has been affected too if no one has noticed. The FO basically said they were tanking the season and yet some here go on an on due to either blind loyalty to a staff that has done little to date or dislike of the QB.......

I don't disagree and that is what I have said over and over. I see the Bills line up and admittedly wanted to see Watkins get passes and would be gobsmacked looking at opportunities at LOS and knowing that the playcall was either the other direction or a run (in a passing down). That is why I've asked over and over what the heck is going on and who is responsible!!! I can't believe you have 4 player go right and the QB looks and rolls left. That has to be the play call imo.

Again then the question is why is he dropping back and looking only left at Clay? Is he that inept or the OC. If we only knew what was in his head or that of the OC. You have everyone on the right and he drops back looking left.

If the play call is roll left and throw, going right is impossible unless the play is busted, which it wasn't. The issue was no one was open running on the left side.