Billsfan1972

Again I'll use 2015 Watkins best yuear to illustrate how underutilized he was. The Bills threw for 3600 yards that year or 225 a game. Watkins had had 60 catches in 96 targets in 13 games or 4.6 catches on 6.9 targets per game & 1047 yards. He was responsible for 29% of the passing yards for the team though missing 3 games. Same year. Hopkins 196 (12/gm) Targets 111 (6.9/gm) catches 1521 yards 4079 passing (from garbage QBs) or 37.2% of total.... OBJ 158 (10.58), 96 (6.4) 1450 of 4500 32.2% Brown 196 (12.25) 136 (8.5) 1834 of 4822 38.8% Very simply throw these players the ball and they catch it and produce. This year look at Thomas & Thielen as new examples.......

Again who do the bills have and who will they pay? What is a wr worth in the minds of this offensively challenged braintrust|? As said they never threw to him and when they did he caught the ball and produced. Not much you can do when not targeted, which was the problem with Buffalo and their 2014-2016 25 passes per game and their 200 yard average passing yards/game...... Buffalo football baby.... I gave many examples of those who are with the team that drafted them and were paid. What a novel idea to pay for your drafted stars.

Why hasn't Julio, Antonio, Deandre, OBJ, Larry Fitz & other great receivers all bolted as soon as their contracts are up or 5th season? Because their teams value them (yes some arguing and in-fighting maybe), but all are thrown the ball and paid....... The stupidity of these arguments are ridiculous.

Now let's hear how much better Cooper is then Watkins......

You can't be serious that he made the the right decision 72 of 81 plays (81 x .89)? Interested in the 9 bad decisions? Do bad throws count (or just that her made the decision, regardless of a `good throw or not)? Heck I remember Allen being criticized for making the right decision and completing a pass downfield if it did not hit the receiver in the #'s. Peterman is a genius doing that with no help. That is as stupid a column as could be written.

Yep that's certainly solid!!!! Yep and putting up big yards down 28+ points. They did get it to 28-3 and you could feel the momentum changing. The bar is so low.

And doubt he signs. Who would believe McD when discussing a contract what offense the bills plan on running. Remember "Buffalo football" according to McD means field position and play between the 20:s and controlling the los. Exactly what a wr wants to hear.

When the team doesn't respect the QB, they can stack the line, making running difficult and then know all the passes will be within 5 yards of the Los. At least Anderson threw it down field. As for the above and Peterman making the reads, he thus had time and still threw only short passes.

Name me a wr with the skill of Watkins who doesn't want the ball? He is not Antonio Brown, who is in a huff if he doesn't get 15 targets or OBJ who continually complains. Watkins was targeted way below average with Buffalo and had every reason to be upset. Even Hopkins with lousy QBs was thrown the ball 10+ times a game. If Watkins had 8 passes his direction that was a serious games Usually players like Watkins are thrown 3-4 simple passes a game minimum and often Watkins had none. With KC he is doing just fine and is targeted in line with all their receivers as Mahomes is sharing the ball. The hate for great players in Buffalo is something else when compared to the defense of players like Peterman.

I can't stop....... You mean on third & three throwing a 1 yard out to a covered receiver? Wow just wow. I think back to my thread on Steve Buerlein, who basically when doing colour on Allen's firststart vs. the Chargers basically said every play Allen made was the wrong one and his stats were much better..... http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=401030704

Again it is not Peterman per se. It it is the incompetent HC & HO who thought last year vs. LAC that Peterman was the right choice in a playoff chase to start (and it was embarrassing), to then bringing him back after drafting the supposed (and I am backing JA right now and like the kid) franchise QB and then again naming him the starter this season. And oh yes deciding the keeping TT to mentor JA made no sense, because the Bills had Peterman as a safety net. Laughable!!!!!!

The three ints..... 1. Defender me at exactly the same time as the pass.... Better arm and it arrives sooner and Pryor can secure it.... Peterman's problem as explained over and over. 2. 1 yard pass into coverage on 3rd & 3. If it is a two yard play then PI 3. Again defender made the break and iontercepted the ball. Yes that's on Peterman. Now remember the thread as to Peterman being competent at New Era? See what home cooking does for you? What a laughable post.

Too tired to point them out...... Trust me there have been better in this dumpster fire of a season.

McD says "I have to watch the film"

That is hilarious....... 3 yard dumps all game..... 63% completion %.... Here's a stat..... Peterman completed two passes beyong the first down chains all game. One was an 11 yard pass and the other a 6 yard pass. All other first downs were YAC. Just pathetic........

It was front page on ESPN. Couldn't help but see it....... Wish I didn't but it is comical and yes I hope the Pegula's see it too and do something.

That's the going rate...... Get used to it. I am convinces that with a healthy Watkins as TT's primary target, with any OC with a modicum of ability he would have easily had 80+ catches and 1,300+ yards last year. Of course you'll argue otherwise and yes it is pure conjecture, but a lot of teams wanted him and he is a talent. What's next for you???? "The Bills forced a three & out in the fourth quarter, which impressed me" "Peterman led a 6 play drive that stalled at the 50, great improvement" "The Bills went almost the entire quarter without commiting a penalty, talk about discipline"

I've watched every other game and probably 90% of all games since 1972 (as per my name). The eyeball test is all that counts.

http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/32553/stat-by-stat-bills-offense-inching-toward-nfl-infamy

I didn't see the game fortunately..... 41-9 suggests otherwise. Trubinsky still is meh at best and missed throws from what I heard on the radio. It is an undisciplined team that has 160+ yards in penalties (a I didn't see Rex on the sideline). Heck the Bears took a lot of penalties too and were missing their best defensive player. So the Bills played well vs, a "contender" that lost to Miami for 20 minutes?????

You know what Buffalo Bills Football is to me???? Jim Kelly & the K-Gun..... Someone should remind McD that these were the most successful teams in Buffalo. Watkins was the Bills pick, right or wrong and has played well (not great), but is paid as a top echelon receiver and had multiple offers all in that range. Quit spinning it otherwise. Now that the NFL pays $16 Million for players of Watkins ilk, tell me who the Bills will get for $16 million to help their most important player and position at QB?

Third & 3 and he throws it within 1 yard of the LOS and no chance for the first down if caught..... That was a pathetic call, read, throw and decsion. Yep, maybe the ref was just too lazy to throw the flag, because why bother.

When New Era is empty the last 4 home games, we'll see. Very simply they lay another egg vs. NYJ and I predict huge trouble. Think about it...... The Jets are 8 point favorites Sunday.

And this is absolutely right. Losing is one thing, being uncompetitive & unwatrchable is something else completely. Listened to the end of McD on WGR Monday and on one hand you fee bad for him in some sense, he still exudes an arrogance in his expectation that it will turn around and compares it to his time in Philly & Carolina. Add that to his comments about field postion and really still not fully grasping the need for Offense and I am left shaking myu head. But yes it started with the trading of Watkins in the pre-season, undermining the O and TT from day one, naming Peterman the starter vs. LAC and then not having a clear vision on the O coming into the season, the botched "QB competition" and Peterman still being on the team.

Looks bang bang to me in any case.