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It really isn't. For some reason the hard right/alt right thinks we should appease Russia because reasons. The hard left/far left thinks Imperialism is only bad when America does it, so they support Russia. Reasonable people in both parties tend to support Ukraine, because its a really, really easy issue to be right about.

Cam, Stidham, McCorkle... bring on the Zappe Era! QB purgatory is a wonderful thing to watch.

Given how wrong you are about the events running up to the war, I think the replies to you have been charitable. They certainly don't merit this whiny crap.

Yeah, you really need to go back and read up on our actions prior to the invasion. I loved the part where Macron fired his chief of intelligence when Russia invaded. Because his chief of intelligence told him there was no way America could have penetrated Russian security so completely.

Better late than never. Pompeo was another one in a long, long list of politicians who couldn't see through Putin's BS.

Nah, it's not. Nobody's won yet. And if nobody's won, you're either talking about "peacekeepers", or the peace treaty is just an ceasefire while everybody gears up for round two.

How does somebody who coached in NE for forever look at 3rd and 1 and call anything but a qb sneak?

Jesus. I read the last to pages of this thread and had to remind myself we're up 28 heading into the 4th...

Good call. We've had lots of company around recently, and I can't find any mulling spices. Try throwing some orange zest in there, and let me know how that works!

Might have to try that today...

Sweet jesus. Anybody ever noticed that on the internet, everyone's got a PhD on the Nazi party? Especially when it's time to pont fingers at the other guys?

I'm gonna laugh if the next season of Deadliest Catch is just the skippers saving Russian draft dodgers.

Simple solution. 1. Russia gives back all the land they've captured, including Crimea. 2. Ukraine pledges perpetual neutrality. No EU, no NATO, no foreign troops, no foreign bases. 3. Ukraine gets their nukes back, or gets to make new ones. That should keep them independent. If they want to be dumb thats on them. Russia's proven that having tons of nukes doesn't save you from your own stupidity. I thought they'd learn from us, but their national inferiority complex is so huge they really do have to be better than us at everything.

Thanks for posting. Saw some odd stuff today cross-posted from the Russian Twitterverse. Take or discard as you want, but it speaks towards Russia's ability to negotiate a peace. Apparently, the so-called "referendums" passed by Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporozhia don't really take effect until 2026. So they remain "independent" but Russia-aligned states until 2026, when they are formally annexed into Russia. Meaning that Russia can cut them loose at any point until then, without legally handing over sovereign Russia territory. Again, just some twitter stuff, so we'll see.

Well done GB!

We got a hold of them, dragged them into the deep water and drowned them.

Cut Moss, and draft Kromer whoever he wants and whatever round. I don't care about value. Get. Josh. A. Running. Game.

Let's matriculate the ball down the field.

Great question. The best answer we've got right now is you beat the crazy person so badly they come to their senses. Because you're gambling they arent actually crazy, theyre just pretending to be crazy in order to scare people into concessions. Otherwise, youre just engaging in appeasement. The problem with socialism is that eventually, you run out of other people's money. The problem with appeasement is that eventually, you run out of other people's land.

The Ukrainians have taken Lyman. Looks like the Russian garrison in Lyman were mostly veteran DPR/LPR units and soldiers of the Regular Russian army. They held out for about month, so much tougher customers than the Russian forces that were smashed in Kharkiv. Anyway, Ukraine mostly encircled the city, and the garrison tried to break out toward Russian lines. The Ukrainians controlled the only road out though, and literally blasted them to pieces. You can find the pictures and videos on your own if you want, but they are nightmare type stuff.

But you can't provoke a war that's already going on, and was started by another country... Listen. I'm an american and a nationalist. Once you start diving into this conspiracy ***** though, you're left with one option. That Joe Biden is the single most ruthless, most brilliant, most 5D chess playing president we've ever had. Because all he apparently had to do was stick Cynthia Nuland back in Ukraine, and that provoked a murderous proxy war with Russia. In this proxy war, Vladimir Putin's reputation was destroyed, his country was humiliated, and his military has been ground down to useless nub using Enemy At The Gates tactics. To achieve all this, he has successfully threatened, manipulated and coerced 40ish countries into supporting his plans. All for the price of running the printing presses at the national mint and funding our Military-Industrial complex. And to top it all off, he simply goes ahead and blows up Russia's pipelines. Which destroys all their economic leverage over Europe and forces Europe to source its gas from anywhere else. It also completely guts the negotiating position of anybody that wants a peaceful settlement and a return to the status quo. Because there is no more status quo to return to. So basically, do you think Joe Biden is an evil genius who effortlessly made Vladimir Putin his B word?

Assuming you're right and we did do it... so what?

Come on now. There's quite a bit of difference between Eastern European NATO member actions, and Central European NATO member actions. Eastern Europe is donating it's Soviet era weapons hand over fist, and repairing damaged Ukrainian gear in leftover Soviet factories. The Poles gave Ukraine practically their entire Soviet era tank fleet for free. Your takes are usually solid, but this one is trash.

1. Can I see a source for this? 2. He should send Robert Lighthizer instead. That guy actually had the skill to sniff out the weaknesses of someone's negotiating position, then mercilessly take advantage of them. Lighthizer was tying the Chinese in knots while Trump was suckered by Russia's bluffs and threats.

Exactly. He's one more cog in the Media Infoganda Complex. But people love him anyway...