Cleveland Rocks?

Gordon is participating in OTA's. Interesting. I think he gets 16 games.

Sounds like he threw more in those 3 days than he had in 3 years. Bet he is icing that shoulder down as we speak! Too bad it didn't work out...

Sammy ran screens all day against Ohio State because he could. If you watched this game in its entirety, you know that the game was close...back and forth and a bit of an offensive shootout. The game came down to the final play. Ohio State could not defend the screens, so they continued to run them. Clemson took this bowl game very seriously, and they did whatever they could to win, considering they had issues of their own with Ohio State's offense. I doubt that Chad Morris was overly concerned with what anyone thought about Watkins ability to run NFL routes when he devised the game plan. JMO. I would give pretty much anything for the Browns to have drafted Sammy. He is going to be a beast.

I thought the same thing... bizarre

Is there room for any more implosion? lol

Ohio State never missed a beat when he came in when things were going well, and rose up when he came in when things weren't going well. He was more than just a backup. He could run the show and soemtimes was the show. Most college football analysts said the best 2 QBs in the Big 10 played for Ohio State. He could have started at many other programs. If he had, I believe he would have been drafted. I know this is probaby blasphemy, but I rememeber when Brady was stuck behind Drew Henson at UM. Henson was the highly recruiterd "chosen one" but Brady was the more polished, effective QB. They wanted to play Henson, but Brady kept earning PT. The reality is that there is very rarely a QB competition at OSU. Miller the unquestioned starter. He was a Heisman finalist as a Sophomore and would have been again this year if he hadn't missed the first 3 games. Miller is perfect for Urban Meyer's offense. Guiton was recruited by Jim Tressel and sat behind first the top recruit in the country, Terrell Pryor, and then his successor. He didn't come in as a highly touted player, he had to work for everything he got.

YES

You can always look at it this way: one of the best moves you all feel Whaley made was trading down last year to get EJ later and an extra 2nd round pick from St. Louis. That pick turned into Kiko Alonso. I think he is worth a 1st round pick now that we look back. So Whaley essentially pulled off getting an extra 1st round pick last year. So he gave it back to get who might end up being the best player in the draft and certainly one that could have the most immediate impact? I'll take that. You're even

Is it really fake? It didn't seem to contain anything we haven't heard before except for the film/playbook stuff. I sure hope that is not true.

And the Vikings were going to take Manzeil and "settled" for Bridgewater. Not sure if any of this is true but I would not doubt that Haslam story at all and I am not so sure Pettine was all in on Manzeil.

I just heard about Kenny G. getting an invite to the Bills mini-camp. If he makes the team, it is going to be very hard for me not the become a Bills fan!!

OROY - Sammy Watkins (he can create his own plays) DROY - Ryan Shazier. He is a perfect fit for the Steelers and Dick LeBeau. He will be this year's version of Kiko (I know there is only one Kiko!)

The Browns had a terrible draft. I have not talked to one Browns fan who is happy. There were some that were initially excited about the potential of Manziel (not me), but now we have no WRs, Farmer neglected to draft any, and Hoyer is the starter per Pettine which means it is going to be another long, 4 win season filled with QB drama over wanting Manzeil to start. They could have had Watkins but instead they wanted another pick - for next year?. This franchise is cursed. It is always wait until next year, ALWAYS. I just wish they would address the needs now instead of holding up a "be patient, under construction" sign.

LeSean McCoy is a complete troll on Twitter. He doesn't have any money to bet on this because it would be seized to make child support payments.

OH! I see. LOL.

Mike Rodak and Pete Prisco are not experts. I thought you meant guys like Bill Polian.

I am not sure he is exactly who they wanted. I do not think the organization as a whole wanted Manzeil. I think they talked themselves into it. If he was exactly who they wanted, they would have taken him at 4 or even 9. He is the most important position on the team, they HAD to get a QB, and if they were set on getting him they would not have waited until their 2nd pick.

The Browns have been building a sustainable winner for what, 20 years? I would like to win more than 5 games at some point.

That's just because they love to talk about Manzeil! But I haven't heard any experts say the Bills are stupid. Just the opposite.

Yep it is really mixed. The media all love it. of course, makes their jobs easy. The fans have been debating JM for 4 months.

Me too. I was shocked. I guess they just really had to have that extra draft pick. Why I am a Browns fan.

He is nothing like Russell Wilson between the ears, unfortunately.

I am pretty sure Manzeil will be on IR by week 13. You will have Hoyer or maybe even Tyler Thigpen! Also, we don't run a 3-4? We run a 4-3 according to Coach Pettine.

This is really cool. Wish I knew about this before!