D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

Where's Jeff to spin this? LOL!

No the above mentioned are not worthy of top 10 picks by many, including the Bills . You disagree that's your opinion. Your crusade against the Bills moving forward, because of their past (this is a new organization) is tiresome. They have not said they won't take anything other than a flawless QB. They took Peterman this year, Jones last. They are positioning for one next year if TT doesn't pan out this year. Give it a rest and stop with the Sean the Wrestler crap and your personality analysis.

I've yet to see anyone say we should wait for a sure-fire franchise guy. Strawman .

Yeah I've thought about that before as well. Chan was actually a pretty decent offensive mind, he did pretty well with very little. The Spiller pick was just about as stupid a pick as they could have made at the time. Not sure who was available QB wise without looking, but that one sticks out as Buddy Nix's folly.

You could be right. I liked Watson, but his lack of velocity bothered me. Clearly, none of the QBs this year fit the Andrew Luck coming out model. It would be ideal to have drafted one and let them develop, just does't seem like the way of the NFL these days. We went for need, picks, TT in Rico's system for a year, and next year class will be better and let's be ready if need be.

No I understand optionality. My point was that it is hard to do more than have the ammo available if needed to move up. Planning on a good QB class is risky at best. We can look at a class now and say it looks great, with many candidates. They could all end up not being first round guys at his time next year. Or, some other QB could come to the front and not be eligible until 2019 that everyone loves. Just too hard to do much more than be ready for anything. By the way, Great Topic Kelly!

Have to wait an see if there are any who really pan out! Somebody mentioned there are 12 instead of 5 candidates next year. Jeez all 12 could get hurt or suck. Or one could come out of the woodwork that no one is thinking about. We just don't know right now and I think planning on a great Qb class is foolish beyond what we did this year- having ammo to move up if needed. Brad Kaaya was ranked number 1 last year this time. Where is he now? I'm not an advocate for just drafting a QB, any QB at all times. You should pick one when you think they are the one you can believe in.

I think the run defense must be fixed and that will help the secondary. The 135 yards and 4.5/ carry is obviously something that won't work even if it is pass first league.

A couple of things. First of all, the move of Darby inside and Seymour or someone on the boundary, is a terrific idea! Teams like the Patriots and Dolphins are tough because of Edelman and Landry, this needs to be done. Second, Lawson actually could end up being a faster, quicker Charles Johnson and that is pretty darn good. Johnson was a 3rd rd. pick, and while not an All Pro he had multiple seasons of 11-12 sacks. Nice comp.

Wow! Call me impressed by this hire. They seem to really be putting egos aside and trying to build an outstanding organization this time. I'm thinking we are finally headed in the right direction.

Care to elaborate or is the only reason it's the Bills.? Listening to some of you new guys I'm guessing that's about how deep it goes.

Looking back at this old topic on JB before the draft. Always fun and interesting to look back and see who had what to say. There are some very insightful comments that nail it and the usual he's a bust for sure comments with nothing to back it up.

I'm somewhat optimistic because they have a coach/gm attached at the hip and on the same contract length. I'm not sure it would be a surprise to go anywhere from 6 wins to 10 wins. Anything outside those parameters would surprise me. Secondly, we have gotten rid of an awful coach and staff. They ran an undisciplined rabble who routinely didn't show up at the wrong times to play. Go Bills!

Thanks for the info. Interesting hire.

So you watch media interviews for an assessment of strengths and weaknesses? Wow just wow.......your bias is clouding any objectivity my friend. Need to reevaluate yourself.

One of your best posts! Thanks for the info and analysis! I have felt all along that worrying about this and calling it a huge problem are overstated. Just another way for some to shout dysfunction. The point about getting hungry, young scouts and training them as opposed to reprogramming the old dogs is the most important.

If they want to get these kind of athletes at the service academies they need to let them out. If they don't , they won't.

Those who are dead and those who are soon to be!

Jeez that was quick. Press conference ends and boom! All down hill now.

I realize I could be flamed for this. We just absorbed a lot of new members. But, has anyone thought that maybe as a group we needed to get some of this out in the open and discuss. I mean some people are so conflict averse, they don't see it that way. Getting the expectations out there, for behavior, new posts, and especially crusades. Most, not all, will hopefully pick up on it. I've seen a little bit of adjustment going on from some recently.

Amen bro! good to see a mod say this.

Corleone family= McDermott Era Cicero family= Rex Ryan Era

No !@#$ing way it lasts that long. You are never better than your first press conference around here.

100%! Here is a couple more camps. There are those who have some perspective and realize that this is entertainment and what they say has no bearing on the outcome. And, those who its all about them. I'm sure there are others, but that's a couple that sticks out to me.