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3-8 vs top 10 teams under Brian Kelly, 1-17 against top 5 teams since 2000. Hard to make an argument they are a top program IMHO. I was brought up to be a ND fan throughout the 70s and 80s. My Dad said they did things the right way. I was also raised catholic. Let just say I learned along the way that was a myth, along with their schedule, and they also don't get top talent like they did when Holtz was there.

Reality in sports is your won-lost record. At the end of the day all the woulda, coulda, shouldas mean nothing.

Wonder what PFF has to say about?? Probably something like Zay Jones with his 3 rec in 7 targets-but boy he was in the right spot on every play.

I've always felt this was a classic case of the more finished product versus the raw potential. You can fill in the blanks as to which one is which. The Browns made their decision and the Bills their own. Personally, I feel it is the job of the team to have some imagination and vision. Some, I understand, are in the I whatt have you done crowd?

I'm hoping for the John Madden 10 years in one place rule for Adam Gase and the Jets.

"Josh Allen is inaccurate" "BBFS" And the creme de la creme "What makes me sick is the guys we passed on to get to get Allen ... "

This is what I see as well. Only argument might be Lamar ahead of Darnold. Lamar has a much better organization behind him and Sam might prove better in the long run given the chance.

This is 100% correct! Anyone old enough to remember prior to Y2K(I am) will tell you there we no Patriot fans in existence. This covers the Boston and NE areas as well. They are the worst fans in the world now, all bandwagon jumpers. My 2 brothers in law who never touched a Football in their lives, now go to games and won't stop beating their chests.

Any guesses on what PFF will have to say about it? They're usually the opposite of what you've seen....so I'm guessing Allen D-, Zay Jones A-

As usual you get it!!!

I'm giving him an A this week, felt he was the MVP of the game.

I meant he is the best! Read what the question asks.

I thought Spain was excellent as well. When he pulls out in front of Singletary and you are a DB it is a scary sight!

No-there is no one better!

Is it just me or does Zay Jones have the smallest catch area ever? He seems like he needs the ball thrown absolutely perfectly to make a catch. This too me is why he seems to never have chemistry with the QB.

I hope so, there's a pretty big trend to buck.

Yeah saw that , what was it like 2-16, 3-15 something like that?

Great Thanks

I'm seeing the spread is down to -1 Bills! Late money on Giants? Does someone know something we don't?

Line is down to -1 Bills, late money on Giants?

Makes more sense than following Shady around! Just sayin' he wasn't much of a role model I hear. Only change is Taron Johnson due to injury!

Not that is matters, but has anyone ever seen Mike Golic pick the Bills- I've never seen it!

Then go do anything else and ignore this!

I feel better after having seen Josh throw the ball last week. Simple as that. I liked the changes we made in the off-season. My biggest concern going forward is if we have enough playmakers!