GunnerBill

Yea I think they will care. I just think they are bad. I expect a close first half and Jacksonville pull away just enough in the second. 26-16 something like that.

I don't see Mike Vrabel coaching like that. I think Jacksonville will win. But I don't think it will be any lack of effort on TEN's part. They will give them everything they have. They just are not very good.

No they are not. But they are an 11 win team going into week 18. So the Bills would have to have been a 13 win team going into week 18 with the potential to be a 14 win team for there to be no possibility the division is in play today. And I have already explained why I don't look at this roster and see a 14 win team this year.

Still disagree. It is not good that we haven't clinched the playoffs by now. But the reason the division is still in play today is that Miami has been good.

Sounds like most Sundays on TSW. Win or lose.

I agree to an extent on Nico. Tank can play though. To me he can do everything Zay Flowers can do and was a 3rd round pick not a first rounder.

I don't love the status quo. But I don't see a better solution. And until I am persuaded there is a better alternative I'd be minded to stick with what we have.

I don't think they will rest key guys from the off but if the Bills jumped out to a lead I could totally see them going into self-preservation mode. It's a "take the ball" game if you win the toss for me. Try and get out to a start and see how much Miami wants to win the division with their beat up players. EDIT: equally in a world where the Jags have lost and the Bills are already in I'd say the same about us. Play while it is a tight game. But if Miami is up two scores mid 3rd Qrtr... pull our guys.

If the only options are he plays on his current deal or we cut him that is a really obvious decision. You cut him. But they are not the only two options. I think the Bills should and will try and find a way to do a pay cut deal with Tre. Then it comes down to what does he want to do. There are reasons to believe that it is in his interests to be here in 2024.

I disagree. But I also think how productive Johnson has been is overstated. But this should be for Murray. Who has had a great career but looks every inch his 107 years old at the moment.

Playing the run is not a strength, agreed. But his biggest weakness is his transitions. Always has been. It is why he excels in man coverage and struggles in what should be the comparatively easier discipline of playing zone. You have to be able to go from dropping to attacking in an instant and he can't. His long limbs kinda get in his own way.

They are. But only moderately. They are still a bottom 3rd of the league Oline. Otherwise.... I wouldn't swap McDermott for Taylor. And sure, they drafted Chase 5th overall. They also drafted Higgins 33rd overall. Give them credit for those two picks. But their last six day 1 and 2 picks have been defense. I think your perception that they have prioritised offense massively more than Buffalo is slightly off.

I mean the Bengals have thrown more money at their oline than the Bills and this year got worse results up front. Where else does this investment you speak of show up? It isn't in their receivers - all 3 of those guys were draft picks. And on "the Bills need to draft receivers higher" no arguments. I have been draggin Brandon Beane for that for 3 years.

Allen is the main reason the Bills are a Superbowl threat every single year. But down the stretch here it hasn't been Superman Josh and 21 guys. They have turned their season around through really strong team performances particularly on defense and they have ran the ball well. The passing game has been the bit that has been lagging behind. It isn't nitpicking. It is honest analysis of what the Bills have put on film.

They did have a 2nd year safety they spent a 1st round pick on ready to step in, which factored into that decision.

Not all on Allen at all. But there is a narrative that is being attempted here that none of the passing game struggles are on Josh. And they are. It is all parts. Separation hasn't been great against man. Protection has had difficult games against KC and New England. The drops have been drive killers. But there have been bad reads, slow decisions and poor throws (including throws fired in at short quarters unnecessarily) that have contributed too. Everyone on that side needs to play better tomorrow and in the playoffs. And as always on offense it starts with your Quarterback.

You get DPI on deep shots mostly. And we haven't thrown that many that have been super close to connecting. That plays into that number significantly. Their offensive line is still good G-C-G but their tackle play this year has been garbage

And over the last month the worst in the NFL when not under pressure.

Well we don't have a DC. We have an interim OC and everyone knows our ST coordinator is out of his depth. Not shocked there is no Bill on the list.

Sorry what is the story here?

Cam Lewis is their 4th safety.

As I said earlier in the thread, even if he is held to 0 yards on Sunday Kincaid's was the 14th best rookie TE season OF ALL TIME. The problem was some people thought they were getting year 9 Travis Kelce right off the bat and that was never happening. He never even crossed my radar. He got an invite to the Senior Bowl and I watched the game but I don't remember seeing him once. Fair play to the Rams though for drafting him in the 5th. I think he was probably more like a Priority Free Agent type for most teams.

Yea agreed. I do think the Bills have some leverage to re-negotiate though. They are on the hook for $10m of dead cap already paid that they have to account for somewhere, but there is no guaranteed new money on Tre's deal. So they can offer him some guarantees for him lowering his overall number. There is an incentive for both sides to do that deal. I think it is 60/40 that Tre is back, but it won't be on the current contract as it stands.

Ah the game where the Dolphins had literally one drive over 38 yards. Josh Allen contributed more to their points than Skyler Thompson did.

I disagree with this to an extent.... but it was very small sample size. He was very good week 3 at Washington and then I'd argue week 4 vs the Dolphins was one of Tre's best 3 games as a Buffalo Bill. He was absolutely lock down in that game. But I agree that last season and even the first couple of games of this we hadn't seen close to the pre-ACL White. But I honestly think that is why he was so upset when the achilles happened - he knew those last two games were finally the real Tre White it had taken him so long to feel like that and he got less than two full games to enjoy it before another bad injury.