GunnerBill

That is a different thing. That is the Most Gracious Speech to open the Parliamentary session. That does not take place at Christmas, and takes place in the House of Lords. It is where the Monarch sets out his or her Government's legislative priorities for the following year. The Royal Christmas Address (to give it the full title) began in 1932.

Then why bring in two vets? When they had just signed one of them I would have said, absolutley, the Giants are taking a Quarterback. But generally when teams without one bring in two vets with a lot of starting experience it indicates Quarterback competition. I wouldn't be stunned if they took Sanders, but honestly I lean towards they won't now. I think what is influencing people a bit in this class is there are only two elite level prospects - Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. And I think both the Giants and the Browns are likely thinking that taking a slam dunk there is the way to go. I'e had each of them going QB in my mocks. Browns in v1.0 and then Giants in v2.0. But right now today I think I lean towards them both passing. Still 3 weeks to go though I could easily swing back.

You mean 1915? In terms of the Lusitania sinking? I think the London part of your story may have some legend within it if it is pre the Lusitania. The King/Queen's Speech on Xmas Day only began in the 1930s. The only Queen to ever deliver the message was Queen Elizabeth II and she didn't take the throne until 1953.

Yea I have Jihaad as a first. Was he on the poll? Might have missed him. I think I would consider him for the Bills because I think he has the potential to be elite within two years and the fact he might not be ready to go week 1 if he needs shoulder surgery wouldn't put me off. On Scourton I liked him much more than I expected on tape. He didn't work out at the Combine though. I think in terms of mocking him he is right there in that late 1 / early 2 range. I like Princely Umanmeilen a lot too. He definitely isn't going round 1 but I honestly would be willing at #30. I do have Jihaad higher than both though. I mean that's a way to do it and "reset the money at the position" but it isn't the way I'd go personally.

Gonna be a hard sell to my family haha.

Was it the Vikings who used to miss their pick all the time and get jumped? Ha.

I haven't got my board right in front of me... I'm in Albania for work... but of the guys listed on this poll I have two first round tape grades: Walter Nolen and Mike Green. I repeat if Green makes #30 I think there is no way he is on our board because it means the off field is very concerning. I'd love Nolen, but positional value wise it is hard to argue for a 3T DT when one of your best players is already a 3T DT. If we didn't have Ed I'd be majorly banging the drum for Nolen. After those two, of this list, by my board, it's Hariston just a smidge ahead of Amos but on pure Bills fit I'd flip that for scheme. I do have Princely and Nic Scourton above the corners though as well. They just aren't in this poll.

Yea if I was grading this by likely picks for this regime it is Ezeiruaku and Amos out on their own. My guess is if the draft has gone as it has here those two (and Scourton who I can see them liking a lot) are the standouts on the Bills board.

Yea has a lot of White about him.

He has also gotten better every year. Maybe he has now peaked? It's possible. In which case this is an exceptional deal. But if he is STILL getting better, wow, this will be hard to beat.

I think he and Ed are two very similar versions of the same guy. I loved Ed coming out and I love Nolen. I just don't know if them together is the ideal combination. I think Nolen can play the run, probably does it slightly better than Ed although Ed's run defense has always been better than you'd think reading this forum. It's more just both of them really want to penetrate getting either of them to go full gas in a game plan where they are told, don't worry about getting home - your job is just eat up two blockers and keep them engaged that's your 1/11th.... yea. Not sure I'd get 100% out of either of them asking them to do that anything more than occassionally.

I am hearing the two sexual assault allegations we know about are not the only ones. There are people out there digging and they seem to think there are more women who have experienced similar patterns of behaviour.

7. I'd forgot all about Princely. Yea. And Scourton. I have both above Loveland.

It's an exceptional contract Top 5 big board? 1. Hunter; 2. Carter; 3. Graham; 4. Jeanty; 5. Barron. Or did you mean top 5 Bills fits?

And while Beane was less need orientated early in his regime, that's kinda when it is easy to be BPA. When you are building it and you have time and patience on your side. When you are right there and feel like you just need a piece or two to get over the hump becomes much easier to convince yourself that the DT who perfectly fits your need is a better player than the corner who doesn't or vice versa. It's also worth saying the last three drafts are the three without Joe Schoen. And while he has not been a stellar GM in his own right in New York I do know for a fact that he was a vital sounding board for Beane and I was told by someone in the front office - Beane values Joe's player evals more than his own. I am just not sure he has that guy anymore who he can lean on and it shows in some of the day 1 and 2 drafting IMO.

I have 6 guys remaining graded higher than Loveland (one isn't on the poll though).

I think it is probably because the known about sexual assault allegations are not all there is on him. And based on the rumour mill that is the way it is trending.

I voted Amos (I just think he is perfect for our scheme) but if Scourton was on the list..... I'd have gone for him. My view on Green is if he is there at #30, you should stay away. Because he only makes it that far is the off field stuff is bad (and I have spoken to one beat reporter this week, not Bills different market who said what we know at this point is tip of the iceberg).

Yea I just don't think he is their physical prototype.

Sadly with Poyer and Diggs gone and Milano maybe on his final run the Bills are short of players who makde me excited in that way.

I do think a KC trade up for a left tackle is in play, but the way the draft now looks they will probably be in a spot to get Conerly anyway.... and signing Moore means it is a need (their biggest need) but not a desperate situation as it seemed. Yea Virg did say 3 rounder in his preamble but at first he only listed the first round picks. Did you ignore @Virgil's preamble Alpha? He gonna be MAD! 😄

I'd argue it is even MORE important with premium picks. Best player available at a premium position IMO, with the exception of Quarterback if you have a Quarterback who is proven and under 35/36.

Nope. This is the 3 rounder!

That's a good pick. I was between two when I was gonna pick for you. He was my 2nd choice.

Just in time.... I had the pick written up 😃. I will step aside sir, let you return to your rightful place 🫡