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It's only talk until Tyrod holds out. Hopefully the Bills can acquire some other QB to hedge against that. But even if they don't, I have a tough time thinking Taylor has any leverage or that a hold out is a real possibility. A hold out would really poison things in Buffalo and make it tough for him to prove himself. He's got questions that he needs to answer and he's got to be at practice and on the field for that. His best bet is to worry about nothing other than being the best QB he can be in 2016. If he steps up, then the money and everything else will work itself out. If not, then he'll still have another shot to compete on another team next season. There's worse jobs than backup QB in the NFL and that gig pays pretty well too.

Never mind my thought about the Rams playing the two QBs off of each other. It can't happen. They have the same agent. Ouch

That's just it. They'll want to get favorable offset language, which is still a big deal for that high of a pick. Just getting offsets for the last season of the contract is a big deal. Plus then they'll know he'll be in on time.

Could be. There's not any point in the Browns doing anything until the Rams' choice is known. They really can't do anything. I suspect that the Rams will announce only after they get a contract worked out so they can play them both off of each other. Probably a day or so before the draft. Edited: Nevermind about the Rams playing the QBs off of each other. They can't do that as the QBs have the same agent.

You'd have to think so. Unless they're really not sold on whichever of Goff/Wentz doesn't go #1. But then they'll try to trade the pick to a team that is sold on that player. Then they could move back and target Lynch or a bigger project at QB later in the draft.

50% of the time he's right every time.

Well, that sucks. The other big winner here is going to be Lynch. Wentz and Goff almost certainly will be gone by the second pick so some team will reach for him.

I get what you're saying too. They gave up a lot, but if (and that is a Washington DC sized IF) they get a franchise QB it will be worth it in the long run. The Rams had the worst offense in the NFL. Their defense was below average. I'm not even sure how Fisher still has a job there. They are on the long road to respectability either way. In two years things could really be looking up for them. If their QB has developed they'll be a very attractive spot for FAs and they'll have all of their picks moving forward. Then he shouldn't have to put the team on his back. If they didn't make this move, they could be set to fill a number of holes, but I'd bet all of those players wouldn't work out either. They'd still be a long way off and they wouldn't have a good QB.

Yup. I'm very happy if I'm the Oiltans. Nice trade for them. And it'll be a nice trade for the Rams if they hit on their QB. I totally disagree with this having anything to do with winning now. Drafts rarely do - except in the eyes of most fans. Exactly how was a team like the Rams going to "win now" with any possible draft picks or moves? It's a poor line of thinking for them. If the Rams hit on their franchise QB, then they'll be able to finish building their team as their FQB develops and they can have a nice, long run. That's what this is about.

That's no surprise anyway. The Oiltans were probably going to pick Tunsil if they couldn't trade out and Cleveland was going to take a QB (and probably still are or will trade to a team that will). At what point was Ramsey not going to make it to 3?

And that's what a realistic trade to #1 overall looks like. There have been some pretty ridiculous trade scenarios floating around. I'll be interested to see which QB they go with. Wentz looks like a prototypical Fisher QB, but snagging über popular Cali boy Goff for the LA market has huge fan appeal (and he's the better fair weather QB prospect anyway).

Wow. You mean you'd be on board with totally boning Cleveland on a horribly lopsided trade? Super.

Yup. Relying on cheating and Brady.

He'd only cost $1.1M this season and $1.4M next season if claimed off waivers. 2016 is guaranteed. 2017 is not and part of it is a roster bonus. That's cheap and easy to get out of. Some team will claim him for that. http://overthecap.com/player/dominique-easley/2968/

This is probably the most sensible thing in this whole thread. Yeah, I should probably stop doing that. It's just so boring this time of year though.

If the Bills loved a QB that was available at 2, then it's a great deal for them. Everyone is always so focused on "this year", but good teams build for the long haul. Cleveland probably comes out okay if they get a good player from Denver, but I don't think they are putting a lot of eggs into the RG3 basket. We're on the same page with Denver. This would be a ridiculously bad trade for them. They give up their first two picks and a player for Taylor, a QB who is not fully proven and is in the last year of his deal. And, no, a new contract couldn't be worked out in advance because this would have to be a trade when Cleveland was on the clock.

Exactly. If you can't trust them, who can you trust?

Actually this deal would be skewed pretty heavily in favor of the Bills. Denver would be getting hosed badly and the Browns would likely do okayish in it, depending upon what player Denver sent to Cleveland. Using a standard draft value chart the Bills would be getting roughly the value of the 13th overall pick for Taylor. There's is zero chance he'd net anything remotely close to that in a straight up trade for a pick. That all said, it's as unrealistic a rumor as you'll find.

The Bills certainly may move up somewhere in the draft, but they won't be able to use comp picks. This is the last draft that comp picks are prohibited from being traded.

JPP did something stupid. He's paying an enormous price for it - both financially and physically - but not as big a price as it could have been. And now he might even be a bit of an inspiration for some people. Great. Neither piling on nor praise for getting back on the field is in order. He paid his price, but he's also incented with millions of dollars to get back to work. It is what it is. Also, Mark Twain was a freaking genius.

I couldn't disagree more. The agents are doing their jobs well here - and they're different situations. Glenn's prime window for doing a long term deal starts post-draft and improves right up until the negotiation deadline for tagged players. His best bet is to negotiate right up until the deadline. Oh and about those money hungry agents trying to maximize their commissions - those agents generally make a higher commission on endorsements than they do on contracts. And what endorsements is Glenn getting anyway? Gilmore has more flexibility. He can let this drag on into the season if he wants. It's a gamble (obviously), but some players bet on themselves looking for that extra huge deal. One of the parties involved will probably set an arbitrary deadline after which they won't negotiate until after the season ends. Just prior to the start of the season is usually the time someone cuts off negotiations if it happens. In any event, stringing along negotiations until that deadline - or the deadline the player is comfortable with - is the best negotiation strategy. No pro in negotiations gives their best offer until they have to. Again, endorsements are negligible here. A lot more money is at stake for Gilmore on this contract than any endorsement he'll ever get and the impact of waiting a few months to get a deal done is probably zero. And you're crazy on the switching agents thing. Not only is it not warranted here, are you seriously saying that guys signing deals that'll likely be in the $60M-$90M range should go with the lowest cost provider to negotiate those deals? Think about that for a minute because it's ludicrous.

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His full cap hit presently is $2.8M. $1.2M is prorated signing bonus so there's nothing to be done about that. The other $1.6M is guaranteed salary, but his contract has offsets. That means that if he was cut, any compensation he received from another team this season would be deducted from the $1.6M the Bills would otherwise owe him. Also if he was waived and picked up off of waivers the new team would be responsible for his entire salary. Ditto if he was traded. The minimum salary for a 4th year player is $675k, so if he was waived, cleared waivers and was signed to a deal near that the Bills would have dead money of about $2.1M. If they manage to trade him, then dead money is only $1.2M. Those are very manageable situations. They can't do anything until they acquire some additional help at QB, however. Right now it is TT and EJ. At least two more QBs have to be added for training camp - even if they're just arms. Then they can see where they stand and think about moving on. Unless a team comes knocking with a very good offer there is nothing they can do right now. But I think it's probably coming before the regular season.

EJ and Buffalo are a terrible match at present. That dude just looks broken and I don't see any positive if he takes another snap in a Bills uniform. When he gets on the field for Buffalo does anyone have any hope anymore? I sure don't. I sigh and cringe. Any relatively equivalent player without that baggage is an upgrade in my opinion. It's more that than anything else. Also I'd expect that Glennon would also sign beyond 2016 as part of a trade. EJ is gone at the end of 2016 if not before.

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