BarleyNY
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Should have retired a bill
He still might. Definitely a chance he doesn't get the kind of deal he wants and hangs them up. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.
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Can they trade him please for 2 first round picks, ill feel better, been bitter
about that ever since.
The Bills can trade Sammy for two 1st round picks in the same way that The Angry Birds Movie can win the Best Picture Oscar.
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Pump the brakes. He's the only QB on our roster who has started an NFL game. Let's revisit this discussion in the next offseason though.
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I expected him to be on the field.> I dont dislike him and i know he is likely elite talent. TT and he were getting tight before the foot. If he was on the field the scheme may well have changed
so i was close?
Yes. I might be a little high on the $17M too. $16M-$17M range.
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What is "much higher"? Option was $13.3M fully guaranteed for injury, per Carrucci. Per Breer, franchise tag for WR predicted to be $15.7M, transition $13.3.
Essentially, the Bills are saying they'd rather take their chances at having to pay $2.5M more, than give Watson a full injury guarantee.
Those are 2017 numbers. Option numbers are calculated as transition tag numbers for the previous season. So the Bills declined the 2018 option for Watkins at $13.3M. The WR franchise tag number will probably be about $17M next season.
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It has to be. If this team was really interested in him they wouldn't have declined the option. It's smart to invest in good stocks when they are low. Sammy's value could be as low as it's going to get right now. Now you allow him to prove himself to the entire league this season. His value could become inflated forcing us to pay him more than we would have otherwise. I don't see why you would take that type of risk, unless you are planning on parting ways.
Yeah. If they aren't willing to take the chance on his option year, there's no way the Bills are going to take the risk of giving him a big contract with a large signing bonus - even if he has a big 2017 season.
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Sammy will give his best this season, but it'll be his last in Buffalo.
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One of the comments is funny: "They finally came across some drafts they can handle."
Fantastic
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Ugh, damnit, this is all my fault. I bought a Watkins jersey his rookie year, cursed him.
BURN THE WITCH!
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I think he'll want to perform for the huge contract, and if he gets offered the huge contract here, he'll sign.
For me, the bigger issue is that the team has exposed themselves to the potential of losing him if they aren't willing to pony up the top-5 salary.
The route to a huge salary for Sammy in Buffalo was for them to pick up the option. This is a clear signal that the two will part ways after this upcoming season. I don't see a path to him remaining a Bill except for the franchise tag. If he has a poor season, then he will hit FA and take a short, prove it deal somewhere with a proven QB and an offense that can get him paid. Results from a mediocre or good season season will get him the same except with a better deal. A great, injury-free season could definitely get him tagged by Buffalo, but that would likely just keep him here one more season. I can't see both sides agreeing on a contract though. This FO isn't going to give him a huge deal because of his injury problems. If they were willing to gamble on those, then they'd have picked up his option.
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He won't sign it . Esp if he has a good season and no further injuries. He'll be done with this team. Hold out and pull a Josh Norman, with the team eventually letting him go.
No. He doesn't have much of a choice as it is a team option. He agreed to it when he signed his rookie deal. There's literally nothing new for him to sign. He could hold out, but wouldn't have any leverage and could lose a lot of money.
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No salary cap on coaches, GMs and other FO people. I'd pick up the option on Sammy, but I don't know what his foot really looks like from a medical standpoint. Maybe that's the issue.so tp will pay all that cash to coaches and gms but not to a talented player
Edited to add: The option immediately guarantees for injury and fully guarantees in March.
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Had Pegula not hired Rex, Whaley would still have a job. One horrendous head coach hiring by the owner and Whaleys inability to secure a franchise qb was his demise
A FQB certainly might've saved him and Rex sure didn't help, but he didn't help himself in a lot of ways either. Had he been running a tighter ship and made some better decisions he might still be here. He had a lot of missteps beyond what was forced on him.
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I don't think anyone ever tried to do anything but what they believed was in the best interest of the Bills. Some had been there longer than others and it is a part of the business. These people were very proud to represent the Buffalo Bills and wanted nothing more than to turn it around. I'm taking issue with some celebrating people losing their jobs. It is classless
I've disagreed with you a lot on this board, Kirby. But not on this. You're spot on. I'll celebrate Whaley's departure a bit. He's getting paid large for subpar performance. Wish he'd have been worth his contract. But I take no joy in what's happening with the rank and file scouts. Had Whaley done a better job, then maybe this wouldn't be happening to them.
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When you answer this, say "Hello, McDermott residence. Whom should I say is calling?"
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Choad Kelly. Terrible person with much less football acumen than many think. We dodged the most unnecessary and futile QB controversy since Tim Tebow was in the NFL.
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I loved the draft overall. The trade back for an additional 3rd and 2018 1st while still getting a top CB was a quality maneuver. I won't claim to know a ton about many of the picks, but they sure filled needs and all look like good values where taken. I wasn't very high on this QB class, but I did like Peterman quite a bit. He was an outstanding value. I gave it an A.
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It looks bad if you are desperately trying to find a reason to find an issue.
Or if you can apply logic.
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No it doesnt. There is entirely logical reasons to both our picks. It didnt take a genius to think the Panthers wanted a WR or OT, you can get that off about a million draft preview sites showing team needs. And we got the best WR and OT prospects left.
There's a difference between saying that something is certain and that something looks bad. I'm saying the latter. If the Panthers had jumped the Bills twice in this draft for two players that we intended to draft right after those picks and then almost immediately hired our assistant GM to be their GM, you wouldn't think anything was fishy? You'd be cool with that?
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reading the carolina panthers forum they prove to be the stupidest fans in the nfl.
paraphrasing. "they took our picks, now want our assistant gm - 'Carolina Bills"
i love that ****. who's bill polian, pete metzalaars, don beebe, AND their first starting qb in franchise history Frank Reich?
idiots.
Certainly looks like there might have been some inside ball there. We did jump them for a couple of picks. We'd all be livid if this situation was reversed. Hopefully we skate, but it doesn't not look great.
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Things might get a little uncomfortable for the Bills initially if Beane, the assistant GM of the Panthers, is the new GM here. I noticed that the Bills jumped them twice for players in the draft. Hopefully nothing comes of that. But I do expect him to be the choice.
As for Whaley, he was a mixed bag here, but I thought he should've been sent packing with Rex. The bottom line with him was that he gave us non-playoff teams at SB contender salary cap prices. Overall he had more poor moves than good ones, including some bush league mistakes. I certainly don't feel the least bit bad for him as he will be collecting way more money than he was worth for his time here.
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Signed by Denver.
I f*****g hate that.
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I have no idea. But Andy Reid seems to have the trust of the ownership and they are empowering him. It wasn't just Reid. Dorsey mentioned multiple teams were all trying to get up and Chiefs had the best offer.
I think that trust is waivering. He's heading into his 5th season and is 1-3 in playoff games. He needs to get over the hump. I'm not sure what other offers there were, but it's telling that 3 QB needy teams with new people in charge traded out of 2, 10 and 12 where these QBs were taken.
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Well said.