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BarleyNY

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  1. He has hype at the NFL level?

    As is, i dont think briles would be a good nfl coach. His game seems too dependent on wide speed disparity between his team and the opponent. You cant really get that kind of advantage in the nfl.

    Agreed. He'd have to run a much different offense in the NFL than he did at Baylor. Some team may give it a go with him, but it'll be a mistake.

  2. The Bills look bad to anyone that is willing to listen to the nonstop 24 hour news cycle about a GM who didn't know about some surgery for his 1st round pick, and doesn't think players should be playing football.

     

    Sure. Absolutely. Except as Bills fans we know that's not what happened.

     

    For example half the comments I see people making about "players shouldn't play football" were either "then why is he a GM?" or "doesn't he know that without football he would be out of a job" and then "what an idiot" or "0-16". Give me a break. These are the people that we care what they think? Let alone the actual reports who can't seem to grasp the concept with access to the full quote. Why would they? Playing stupid makes them more money.

     

    Doug Whaley thinks "humans shouldn't play football" sounds better and makes more money than "Doug Whaley thinks that Sammy Watkins has been injured because football is a violent game, and humans probably aren't supposed to be playing it" in reference to injuries happen in the league.

     

    Yes, the Bills look bad right now, because the media is doing it's thing, cashing in with no regard for the truth, because it's viewers don't care or require the truth.

    No. It's about a GM, HC and other team representatives doing things that people in their positions should know better than to do. Of course the media was going to run with Whaley's "violent game" comment. That shouldn't surprise anyone, especially Whaley. That's why GMs generally don't make comments like that. They are supposed to know better. And, again, it wasn't one comment - it's been a parade of issues.

  3. They don't look incompetent, you and the media look incompetent because you, a few others, and the local media can't seem to wrap their heads around each of those manufactured "issues"

     

    -Whaley still 100% believes his comment, and most people agree with him. He walked it back because of media overreaction.

    -Whaley said 3 immediate starters from the draft in reference to what they have at the positions and what he believes will be their spot. He also said of course there will be competition but if they don't fill those spots, then he didn't do his job. Another media overreaction.

    -Whaley never said there was no concern with Lawson's shoulder. He said he was cleared by medical and if something happens they will deal with it. Another media overreaction because Whaley didn't come right out and say "yeah he needs surgery guys! can you believe it!" Also implies the situation did not change, or they didn't change their mind which they have every right to do about a player and their health. Another media overreaction.

    -Media rules? Great they revised them because.....wait for it.....the media overreacted and stomped their feet. "The bills don't want you to know who dropped a pass" headline sound familiar?

    -Who cares who Rex Ryan introduces for President. He did not even endorse him. Either way the Bills organization distancing them from politics would seem like a good idea? No it was incompetence because Rex did something on his own time. :rolleyes:

     

    Utter, utter nonsense.

    The Bills look bad right now to pretty much everyone who isn't a Bills fan. Go ahead and stick your head in the sand or pretend that's unfair if you'd like, but I'd wager that if this was all happening with the Dolphins or Jets you'd be talking about how bad they looked. And you'd be right.

  4. I wouldn't assume the Pegula's are overblowing this to the magnitude you are.

     

    9 or 10 wins and playoffs and you think any of this matters. I don't think so.

     

    What am I overblowing? Sure, if - and it's couple of big ifs here - things settle down and the Bills get into the playoffs this season, then none of this will matter. But what if they don't? And what if the recent series of missteps is indicitive of deeper problems in the organization? That is what I'm worried about - and worrying about something like that (as opposed to insisting that it is definitely the case) is completely warranted here.

  5. There will come a time when the Pegulas part ways with GMs, coaches, etc. But in the meantime, what do you think informs them more about Whaley, the brief soundbytes or the day in, day out interactions they've had since becoming his employer?

     

    GO BILLS!!!

    Obviously they have a lot of interaction with the man and I'm not hanging him here - plus there seems to be a lot more responsible parties than just him. I guess I didn't finish my thought on the Pegulas. They have to be concerned about recent events and I would naturally expect that to lead to them tightening the ship. That's what I'd hope would happen at least.

  6. As much as I love having the internet, TBD, and getting as much info about my favorite team as possible, part of me longs for the old days

    where very little of what went on within the building at One Bills Drive was ever made public. Back then, we never would have heard about

    the team's media policy, we wouldn't be worried about or maybe even know about injuries and surgeries until at least August, and something

    (stupid or not) being said by the GM of a football team in May wouldn't cause a stir at all.

     

    No wonder the team is restricting the media more, look at how they've handled these last few stories. It is always in an accusing, over-reacting,

    and exploitative manner. And we, as the public, are no better when we react to it (and we have all been guilty of this at times, be it with the Biils,

    politics, religion, race, etc.).

     

    This is all Much Ado About Nothing.

    Each individual issue we've seen the last few weeks isn't a huge deal in a vacuum, but collectively they're starting to paint an ugly picture. How much stuff has Whaley, Rex and the team had to walk back lately? Just off the top of my head there's:

    - Whaley's comment regarding people not being built to play football. Walked back with a very league-approved "clarification".

    - Whaley's comment about getting 3 immediate starters from the draft (an odd thing for a GM to say since the coaching staff selects starters). D'oh!

    - Whaley's response that there was no concern regarding Lawson's shoulder when questioned about it immediately following his selection. Whoops!

    - The Bills immediately revising their new media rules when some of the dumber rules were questioned.

    - Rex's decision to introduce Trump at his WNY rally, which led the team to release a statement distancing themselves from his appearance at the event.

     

    The Bills have looked very incompetent recently. It's like no one is stopping to think before doing anything. I'd love to know how the Pegulas are reacting to all of this. It can't be good.

  7. Yea send Rex Packing so we can be Cleveland 2.0

    It is usually better to move on quickly from a mistake than let it linger. If Pegula does not think that Rex and Whaley can be successful, then why not move quickly? Just make a good choice so you don't wind up flipping coaches and GMs every season.

     

    And on a more depressing note, I see the fans on this board rip the Browns a lot as a horrific organization (and maybe I'm a bit sensitive to that since I'm from Cleveland). That's fair though because they have been so very bad for such a very long time. But the Bills are pretty close. Over the last 15 years the Bills have exactly 15 more wins than the Browns. That's an average of being exactly one win better per season than the team everyone uses as the reference point for being the biggest long term train wreck in the NFL.

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    This is Whaley's 4th season as GM. Suppose we finish less than .500 now, why should he be kept on with records of 6-10, 9-7, 8-8, and a losing season (again, assuming that it is), and 23-25 to date otherwise trending downward, which clearly shows regression, not improvement?

     

    Again, if he were the GM of the Raiders, Browns, or another team with that record I cannot imagine one single person wishing he'd come here to be our GM much less not making fun of him.

     

    I addressed my thoughts on this in another post, but I'll rehash it here since I cut my response to you short. I'd call their seats warm now, but that could change quickly. Another .500ish season probably gives both Whaley and Rex another year, but with very hot seats. A very bad season and we probably would see them get the boot. Texture is important. Are they competitive throughout the season? Does Rex still have support of his players? At some point things like injuries, lack of talent at important positions, etc. aren't excuses, they're self-created problems. However it works out, I'd expect Whaley and Rex to stay or go together.

     

    I think I was wrong about Rex. I really thought he was a good hire, but he really disappointed me with the way he handled the defense last season. He's going to have to fix what ails that defense to change my mind this season. Whaley is more interesting to me. He's done well with some things (Darby!), but is raw (see recent comments made to media as an example) and has made a fair number of moves that I really didn't like. Since Rex got here it sure seems like Whaley is shopping for the groceries that Rex is telling him to buy, but I don't think that saves him if the housecleaning happens. Pegula didn't hire him and there's a reason his extension goes through the same season as Rex's contract. Whaley might just need a bit more seasoning under a quality GM and I wouldn't be surprised to see him be a very good one down the road.

  9. I always thought "win-now" mode was when a team felt like they had a certain window where they felt they could make a SB run based on the team currently constructed. Typically this would include a very good, playoff worthy franchise QB who either had a few years left age-wise or one who was still on his rookie deal so the team is trying to stack high priced talent around him while they still can. So they do everything with that short term goal in mind. Broncos of the last few years come to mind.

    I don't know when the Bills have had that type of team in recent memory. When I hear people say in recent years that this team is built to "win now" I'm not sure I see it. Maybe it will look that way if Taylor continues to move forward. But I don't see that same "window" of wanting to focus on just the short term, because most of the core players here are young. I think the so -called "window" is created by the fans looking for the drought to end, hence they must "win now."

    I agree with all of what you said above. Any "win now" pressure at this point is strictly "hot seat" pressure for the Whaley, Rex and other coaches and FO personnel. I don't see their seats as hot at the moment, but they're probably a little warm. As for the team, it isn't changing much in the coming seasons except via draft and small contract FAs. OTC summed it up when discussing Glenn's deal:

     

    "This contract moves the Bills into 3rd place in the Commitment Index hierarchy, which means that the team has the third least amount of future salary cap spending capacity. Similarly, the team ranks 5th in 2017 True Cap Space commitments. An extension for Stephon Gilmore or Tyrod Taylor would likely push the Bills to the top position in Commitment Index. None of this means that the Bills will necessarily be in a bad salary cap position over the next few years, but due to the true cap commitments made to the contractual core of Dareus, Glenn, Clay, McCoy, and Hughes, the team will have limited flexibility to add to or change the roster without moving sideways by losing talent currently on the roster."

     

    http://overthecap.com/cordy-glenn-contract-analytics/

  10. If going to kick the tires of a veteran why not Marlon Brown who has size (6-5) and spent a little time with Tyrod in Baltimore.

     

    sure, him too!

    Yeah, it's not an either/or situation. Signing Marlon Brown certainly wouldn't preclude bringing in a vet WR. Have you seen him play? Is there something that impressed you about him? All I see is his stat sheet and that the WR needy Ravens released him after 3 seasons.

  11. More games could mean more injuries , would need a bigger roster size .

     

    Still only a 16 game regular season.

     

    I actually would love this kind of season. Healthier teams, more opportunity to see more teams play and a longer season.

     

    This schedule would have another big advantage - travel by international teams and US teams to international venues would be much more viable. International players would have longer seasons in other countries though. But they'd presumably get some more downtime at home during the season.

  12. This is a run oriented team on offense. A first round rookie WR would be at best your WR2 and youre looking at maybe 60-70 targets and 40-50 catches over the season. Just not enough impact to justify offense over defense in the draft.

    Now you can argue that a half year of Lawson is going to have even less impact that a WR would and I tend to agree.

    It's a run oriented offense, but is that due to necessity or preference? It sure seemed a necessity last season, but I don't know if it was also what was preferred. What OC wouldn't want an offense that could do well both running and passing the ball though? At some points in every season a team will need to be able to pass the ball well to win. I see a problem with the team right now with packages that don't include a FB. Watkins, Woods and Clay are the top 3 targets, but what other WR or TE gets brought out with them? I understand that there's only so many picks and so much money to go around, but that's a glaring weakness as it stands. An injury to one of those three and things are looking pretty dire.

  13. Other people complained they were offended. So they tried to do something about it...and now she's offended.

     

    This is what happens when you treat every crybaby as though they have a valid point.

    I feel bad for the gym owner and/or management that has to deal with crap like this. Crybabies are a not insignificant percentage of customers in any business that deals with the general public and I'd have to think they gym business has more than its fair share.
  14. All is well? Or don't lose your schitt over this?

    Perspective. Look it up. Use it.

    All is well? Or don't lose your schitt over this?

    Perspective. Look it up. Use it.

    That's what it really comes down to isn't it? We say "all is not lost", they think it means "all is well".

     

    Flip it around and can they say the same? They say "all is lost", and we think it means...."all is lost". I mean what else can you take from the "incompetence", "fire whaley", "fire the medical staff" comments? (not specifically you Barley)

    That's funny. Because when I say "it was a bad week" you seem to think it equates to "losing my schitt" or saying "all is lost". Maybe try a little perspective yourselves. Or even just a little reading comprehension.

  15. Why not? He leveraged his football career for VP role.

     

    Scott Norword does it - he is real estate agent in Northern Virginia. I one of his business cards.

    He grew up in Alexandria, VA (Fairfax County not city of Alexandria) where I live too.

    I noticed that too! EVP! Some start up CEO is obviously a big 9ers fan.

  16. I think Whaley and Rex are under pressure to improve immediately (this season). They saw improving the defense as the best way to do that and focused the offseason on retaining important players and adding players on defense that fit Rex's scheme. In short, keep the offense as in tact as possible and expect that they stay above average while improving the defense to above average so they make it to the playoffs. It's not a bad plan, but it seems like they forced it.

     

    They took a big risk on selecting an injured Lawson looking for an impact player at a position of dire need on the defense. It just looks like they forced the pick on hope that he'd be able to make it through the season. It was like they talked themselves into it because they needed it to work out. 19 was just way too early for a player with his injury even when talent level is considered. There were certainly better healthy prospects on the board, but they didn't fill as dire of defensive needs. They also traded up for Ragland to fill another huge need. It wasn't a big trade up and they didn't give up that much (2 fourths), but they obviously want to be sure they got him. I have to believe that filling that defensive hole was huge. Then they added Adolphus to aid the pass rush. I sure don't see him as close to starting this season, but he should fill another vital defensive hole - situational pass rusher. Whaley may have been exaggerating when he said he thought he got 3 immediate starters from the draft, but I don think the sentiment was unfounded. GMs don't usually make those kinds of statements so I have to believe that Rex was expecting that to be the case.

     

    I don't know what the reality is Whaley and Rex's situations are. I do think that if the Bills take a big step back they are in trouble. If they make the playoffs, then they are safe. But those shouldn't be surprises. The question is what happens if they're in the 7-9 win range without making the playoffs. I don't know that they'd get fired, but often owners put pressure on their top people and I'm sure the expectations are playoffs. Falling short of that would lead to uncertainty regarding their continued employment. If they fall a little short I expect that they would be retained, but on a short leash for the following season.

  17. Yes, not having any surgeries is better, but two players having surgery in the offseason with both expected back 100% this season did not deserve the freak out it received. Classic offseason-itis. Sorry if it hurts your feelings to have that pointed out but someone has to be the grown-up.

    Sorry to work you up there, Kool Aid. I usually think of "good" things as ones that I want to happen and "bad" things as those I don't want to happen. Now, sure, some bad things are inevitable and some are within expected norms, but even those expected "bad" things are still bad. Whether or not we disagree on whether or not this week was within expected norms or how much of it the Bills brought upon themselves the Bills still had a very bad week. If you want to scream "ALL IS WELL!!!" you certainly can, but don't be surprised if people call you out on it or refuse to take you seriously.

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