BarleyNY
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Sammy wants paid, a QB that can get him the ball and an offense that encourages the QB to get him the ball.
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Whose got a bridge wife or gf right now ?
I definitely had some before I was ready to get married and settle down. That's about where the Bills are with Tyrod. He's the Bills' girlfriend that pushed them into getting engaged a year ago. Now they have to either marry him or break up.
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No, you either have it or you don't.
This is actually a myth.
This is extraordinarily naive.
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Can we please stop with the illogical "we should trade for: x,y, z player cause they are mediocre and cheaper than Tyrod" foolishness. Bridge players are worthless, they are just good enough to get you 5-7 wins and keep you out of a top 5 pick and nowhere near good enough to get this team to a championship. If you don't believe TT can be "the guy", draft someone else to be "the guy" this year or next and play the rookie if we take one or Cardale this year if we wait til next year to draft one, he will either sink or swim and we will know what we have. I'm tired of all these half measures.
The job of a bridge QB is simply to hold the fort down so you don't have to throw an unprepared rookie QB into the fray before he's ready. He's just there so a team doesn't ruin their highly drafted potential FQB.
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I agree with this approach. Also, as someone else noted, there are good centers available in this draft. Ethan Poteic (sp) from LSU I believe has played Guard and Center.
A good point. Gory is also a FA. Need to give him a 2nd round tender.
That could work out well. Let Woods walk after this season and if Gory is up to taking over for him, then sign him longterm.
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Would be stunned if any team paid his current contract. All nonguaranteed money, but he's due $15M, $16M, $20M and $21.7M in each of the next 4 years. That's a ton of money for a guy who looks totally washed up.
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Wood is expensive, but a lot of that is due to the past restructuring of his contract. He'll count $7.58M in 2017 as it stands. That'd be his last season under contract. If cut, he'd still count $4.32M. That's a savings of $3.26M. If a new C costs about $2M, then savings would be around $1.26M. For that, I'd rather not rock the boat and either let him play his deal out or extend him and kick some of the cap hit this season into future years.
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.....finally find a franchise QB.
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Count me as a Whaley fan.
Count me as a Tyrod fan, too. I want to see how he does in this offense. Lets see how Cardale progresses in his second year. Draft a QB, if needed, in 2018 and don't feel pressured to throw him to the wolves.
I think Whaley has been a mixed bag. I'd have probably moved on from him along with Rex, but can understand why Pegula kept him on. I'm not a Tyrod fan, but that actually mitigates Whaley's blame on the QB front. Rex brought in Tyrod who was successful enough to warrant a further look last season. Whaley shopped for the players that Rex wanted to help him win so QB wasn't a big focus. Cardale was a good developmental pick and that holds true whether or not he pans out. Now it's up to Whaley to find a QB. He brought in the new HC so any differences in opinion on QB should've already been worked out.
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Only 25 players are currently under contract in 2018. That $70M or so has to be used for 28 more active players, all of the practice squad and any players on IR.1) Pointed this out before but the Bills salary cap problems are quite temporary.
Even with a bunch of obvious cuts listed on the books and INCLUDING picking up Tyrod's option they would be slated at $70M under the projected 2018 cap.
And perhaps most importantly there will ALSO be a number of older players coming off the books between now and the 2018 season.....Corey Graham, Aaron Williams, Eric Wood, Incognito, Kyle Williams and Lesean McCoy.
2) I'm for trading back........they need to fill some starting spots with in-house talent over the next couple years.
They will have tons of cap space but so does half the league.......you don't want to be outbidding yourselves the way they did when they went on the Shady-Clay-Harvin spending spree.
Should be able to get a potential impact player at a high dollar position early(QB/Pass Rush/CB)....... then add some quality safety and TE help in middle and a capable RB late or maybe in UDFA.......but more picks is better.
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I am assuming that Cousins has not shown enough to be a Franchise QB. I don't believe Washington lets him go if they think he is a Franchise QB. Cousins is a hot-and-cold QB. He is in the same boat as Tyrod
You can reasonably make the case that Cousins hasn't reached FQB status, but no way is Taylor near his status. Taylor is somewhere between a low level starting QB and a high level backup. Cousins is at minimum a mid-tier QB and arguably a franchise QB.
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This is why we don't deserve nice things.
Bingo
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Flacco > Cousins
Flacco would have made a 2nd Super Bowl until Bellychex busted out the super secret shady plays while the Ravens led 28-14.
Flacco had a bad year last year but I'd ride w Joe anyday. Man doesn't lose home games.
Flacco, when hot and in his prime, was better. But I'll take the current Cousins over the Flacco of the past few seasons - and I don't think it's particularly close.
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Zero interest in McCarron. If his mechanics are perfect he almost has enough arm to be an NFL QB.
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Lotta posters are way undervaluing Cousins. Last season he was 3rd in passing yards with 4,917 yards, 7th in QB rating, 3rd in yards per attempt and 6th in Total QBR. Washington is stupid if they don't pay the man. I'd happily give them the 10th overall pick and do it.
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Not buying it. Sounds like an agent floating stories to gain leverage for a long term contract. Jedi mind tricks. Cousins wants to get paid.
If they tag him again, next year he will get a mint. If they get scared and sign him now, he gets a mint or they trade him for assets to..?
Yes he does want paid - and he doesn't care by whom.
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I could actually see Cleveland trading for Taylor if New England's price for Garrapolo is too high. If Bills cut him, Cleveland will have a tough time signing him and might have to pay him more than his current contract. They are awash in draft picks. Makes some sense.
Zero chance Cleveland takes on Tyrod's contract.
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Washington could get quite a lot if they do have to trade him. What a weird scenario. They trade a ransom for RG3 and then take Cousins in the 4th round of the same draft. Then inauspiciously release RG3 after such disappointment, turmoil and controversy - all while Cousins blossomed into a FQB. Now they might be forced to trade Cousins and, if so, they'll likely get a bunch of picks back for him. You couldn't make that up.
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Foles should be a reasonably priced player. He would be brought in to compete or be a bridge/backup. He shouldn't be expensive early in his contract so he'd be a guy you sign in addition to a draft pick or another, pricier vet.
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You get a humber, you get a humber and you get a humber too!
Was just thinking I could sure use a humber.........
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Anything with Skip Bayless. There are a lot of horrible TV sports people, but Bayless was so bad that Stephen A. Smith almost looked reasonable in comparison.
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Tangentially, and forgive me for hijacking the thread a bit, but since we are contemplating replacements I don't know whether in hindsight I would have preferred Tyrod playing worse or going 9-7 through 16 games with 3500 yards passing, 25 TDs and 7 picks...just to make this thing a little easier for me as fan.
...this just in: I am pissed at Jim Kelly for not being ageless.
True. But everyone can make the easy decisions. It's making the right decisions when they are difficult that separates the people who are actually good at something from the crowd.
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NOW you are making some sense.
The "what's it gonna' cost" to cut him per year take is fine but the reality is that whatever season he is cut after........dead money will roll into the following year.
So if he loses his starting job in 2018 and is cut in the offseason.........approx $10M of that $40M total gets rolled into the 2019 cap figure.
Worrying about $10M in wasted, dead cap space on a projected $200M+ 2019 cap is a small price to pay for putting the best QB you have on the field for approx $15M per year in cap space in the combined 2017/2018 seasons.
It's exactly what I've been saying all along. I didn't get into how the cap dollars could be distributed since that was so complex. There are so many different ways to change the cap hit allocations - restructuring salary to bonus, timing of cut, post June 1st designation, etc. - that it would've been a nightmare to work out. But every dollar paid to Taylor must eventually be accounted for in used cap space. Just because some can be kicked down the road doesn't meant they aren't wasted if they are unwisely spent. The main takeaway of my breakdown was to show that the shorter period of time Taylor would be in Buffalo as a starter, the more expensive he'd be. He just doesn't make any sense under the current deal unless you want him long term. I do get that he's probably the best short term starter the Bills have a real option to line up at QB in 2018, but he's just not good enough to want much beyond that. To saddle the team with his extension just doesn't make sense to me. Giving him that extension and immediately undermining him by taking his eventual replacement at pick 10 doesn't make sense to me either. It's time to move on. Get a bridge QB for a season and focus finding the long term guy because Taylor isn't it.
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1) That's just worry for worry's sake.
2) Young QB improvement is not only far from guaranteed but also by no means linear.
A step back in 2018 is actually more likely to mean more and possibly WORSE football in the future than anything.
Don't forget that young QB's JP Losman, Trent Edwards and EJ Manuel all had their moments early in their careers and regressed horribly.
Even if they have an initial introductory success as the league gets a look.....guys like Cardale or Mahomes or Darnold are more likely to go that route.....think Josh Freeman or RG3 etc......... than become a franchise QB. You gotta' take shots at getting better but there is nothing wrong with trying to develop a QB from something other than a tanked out roster/base.
Tyrod Taylor is a proven commodity........he produced thru defensive adjustments this year.........with one of the poorest WR corps in the NFL........supported by one of it's worst defenses and arguably the worst RT in football.
He ain't Tom Brady but he's certainly good enough to be the Bills Alex Smith and help create something here that can be built upon.
Sink-or-swim QB flops kill coaches, cause regime changes, scheme changes and mass personnel changes..........that's not the best way to developing a winning organization.
1) It's setting yourself up for major issues.
2) Every rookie QB in this draft class should be brought along slowly. All have issues that need corrected prior to getting in a real NFL game.
EJ is a great example of throwing a talented, but raw player to the wolves way too soon. He had - and continues to have - serious mechanical issues. Had those been worked out before he got on the field then things might have been better.
I agree that Taylor is a proven commodity. He's a low-tier starter/high-end backup in the NFL. If that's what you're dying to have, then he's your guy for $40.5M over the next two seasons.
Gunner's FINAL Mock 2017 - v.3.0 now posted (see page 4)!
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It's a nicely done mock, Gunner. Great job. Adams is a player I'd love at 10. How the QBs shake out will be very interesting. I suspect that the big story after Day 1 will be that there wasn't the big, early run on QBs that many are projecting.