BarleyNY
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I tend to agree but I do love speed (as do the Bills). Give him a shot and see if he can contribute and if not, no big deal.
Yup. Doesn't hurt to kick the tires.
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Meh. His only value is as a good kickoff returner and I don't see him sticking if that is all he has to offer. He did not produce at all for the Steelers and I don't know why that would change in Buffalo. He's really been a complete flop in the NFL. I don't expect him to make the 53.
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Here is a list of WRs set to become UFAs in 2017. Obviously some won't make it to FA (coughAlshoncoughJefferycough):
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the problem with trading him is he's on the franchise tag. The team who trades for him would need to know they will be able to sign him to a long term deal or it's a one year rental before he hits FA. Even if they could give him the amount he wants, he would have to want to go to that team too or he won't agree to a long term deal. This makes the list of potential trade partners slim. His goal is to get to FA.
This is an interesting situation to me. The Jest won't trade Wilkerson (except for a first and more). They're not even serious about that because they haven't given his agent permission to negotiate a LTD with other teams. They don't have the cap space to re-sign Fitz - even at their current offer - without dealing Wilkerson (or possibly signing him to a LTD), but say they want him to be their QB. They seem far apart with Wilkerson and I don't think they're even negotiating with him at is point.
I believe the deadline for negotiations with franchise tagged players is June 15th (or thereabouts). If he doesn't sign a LTD before then he will be playing under the tag this season and that money is locked up. I don't know what they'd do for a QB at that point. Weird situation.
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Good post that outlines the difference between critique someone personally and critiquing ideas presented in posts.
Thanks!
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With respect to what's acceptable and expected behavior here, IMO there's a big difference between calling out a post and a poster. IOW, "You're stupid!" is unacceptable as its a personal attack. "This post is stupid!" is different (although I probably wouldn't use the word "stupid"). If you post here, sooner or later you are going to have a post ripped apart by someone else. I've had occasions where I've realized, after thinking about what was written, that those ripping my posts were right and I was wrong. I admitted I was wrong and moved on. I've had more occasions where I got ripped, thought about what was said to me, defended my posts and told those ripping my posts that they were wrong. And I told them why they were wrong. Around here some thick skin doesn't hurt either.
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And if he plays mediocre? Last year was the most yards he's ever thrown for, and he got beat out by freaking Ryan Fitzpatrick, who is currently in the unemployment line.
Well, his current contract guarantees him $22M. He's made $78M outside of that. So that's $100M total. What do you think he's going to play for after that? Some third tier $7M one year stopgap contract? No freaking way. If he's not getting big bucks he might play for a contender to taste the playoffs and chase a ring. That's it. And a team a QB away from a SB run would jump on him if he was a FA and willing to play for $7M-$10M. Teams like Denver or Dallas (post inevitable Romo injury) would be delighted to have him at a decent price.
Browns fans everywhere sincerely hope not.
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At least Woods will be highly motivated to have a great season before a new contract.
Yeah. He'd yield a comp pick, too.
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It's one of the reasons why I wanted Braxton Miller in the 3rd round.
Yeah, I agree. I wasn't totally dialed into one prospect, but I wanted the Bills to come away with a quality prospect. Miller would have been great in the 3rd. That's the latest I wanted to see one drafted.
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Why Robert Woods may be harder to keep in FA than you think http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-analysis-all-22/2016/5/10/11646004/robert-woods-contract-projection-marvin-jones-mohamed-sanu-comparison?utm_campaign=buffalorumblings&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Good find, Yolo. The contracts that second and third tier WRs were getting this past offseason were crazy. Woods is in line for a similar contract to Sanu (plus 5-8% due to cap increase) and the Bills should let him go if that's the case. Sanu isn't worth what he got and Woods isn't worth that much either. I'm not sure what he'd be willing to take as a contract extension now, but I can't imagine the discount would be deep enough to make it worthwhile for the Bills. Woods is looking at a five year deal at $6.5M-$7M a year and $14M-$15M guaranteed next offseason if the market holds. The 2016 free agency period didn't have much in the way of WRs and some serious premiums were paid. I have no idea what the 2017 class will look like.
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Yep. The guy had no leverage. All he's done is make it harder to improve his image for next year.
His image won't matter. If he stays healthy and performs at a high level, then no one will care about his recent antics. If he doesn't stay healthy and perform at a very high level then he won't be very desirable anyway.
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I didnt even realize Luis was out there
YES....we should bring him in.
Same here. I wonder why he hasn't been brought in. Seems strange.
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Is he injured yet?
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I obviously haven't seen as much Ohio State football as you, but when I did watch OSU last year he stood out to me. I know a lot of people think he was a reach at #10, but he was one of my favourite players in this draft.
I quit predicting what Ohio State CBs will achieve as pros after Robey. I didn't think highly of him as an NFL prospect, but he's done well.
I can see why. They have a lot of cash tied up in tackles right now, and I can see trying to groom a rookie replacement.
From what I hear. Miami's problem last year wasn't it's OTs.
Of course, like we've been over a million times regarding Glenn, slotting a great tackle in the guard spot does not equal great success: Great tackles have to rely on long arms and side movement to edge rushers. Guards have to worry about interior penetration.
I think Miami saw value they couldn't ignore and didn't think about how to slot him in.
Miami now has four starting OLmen that were drafted in the top half of the first round. Wow. They got a steal with Tunsil. They're going to play him at LG this season and probably slide him to LT next. That'll allow them to part ways with Brandon Albert who will be 32 this time next year and is pretty expensive. Miami saw a chance to solidify the LT spot for the next decade and took it. It was a great move for the long term - and that's not something I say about the Dolphins very often.
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So roughly what I said pages back regarding him taking a shot to get traded but otherwise this just being offseason noise if the trade didn't happen and he's likely show up
Handing back that $11M check would have been tough.
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If they only have the money to add 1 player, it should be a RT.
I put RT #2 on the priority list. WR is #1. Not that a RG isn't 3rd. Slauson would have been a nice addition. I'll be interested to see what he's getting paid in Sandy-A-Go. There's no guarantee that a quality player at any position of need will become available so it'd have been nice to cross off one of my top 3.
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He did the same thing in San Francisco
With Kaep? That shouldn't be a surprise. When did he ever handcuff a franchise QB with a run first game? Even forget franchise QB. How about a quality QB that can get through progressions? When has Roman ever limited a QB that could do more? Maybe it's all coincidence or teams without strong QBs seek him out due to his scheme, but I can't believe that in today's NFL he wouldn't try to get everything he could out of his QB.
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I dont believe that is true...I think that is simply Roman's offensive scheme
look....I have no problem with the bills wait and see approach with TT.......but lets not act like it is all about protecting Tyrod Taylors weaknesses......its a combonation of having a 1st year starter and Roman doing what he does well
They need to give Tyrod more command of the thing in year 2 and see what happens with that
Gotta disagree with that. It isn't a coincidence that Roman's offense is run first and that's just what happens to fit the Bills' personnel. He tailored his scheme to what he had to work with.
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Would you be okay with less production if the run game was killing it?
Absolutely not. If he can't carry the load, then he's not a franchise QB and doesn't deserve franchise money. If the team is leaning hard on the run game it is due to TT's inability to carry enough of the load.
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To answer your original question: Nothing except accounting, unless you wind up needing the extra cap space in the current year. It's all about flexibility. Deferral of cap hits does benefit the team because of the annual increase of cap space. Cap space has been going up by about 8% a year on average so every cap dollar deferred is discounted, on average, by 8% per season of deferral. That adds up.Genuine question: what's the difference between rolling money over and structuring a contract so that same money is in the cap hit next year?
It seems to me they are structuring the contracts the way they are (with minimal cap hit this year) for a reason, and intend to make a few late value free agent signings, as Whaley said they were going to do before it all started. Or the money is being freed to give Taylor a good faith raise.
As it stands now, they should have over 40m of available cap in 2017, so while as a QB and a CB the TT/Gilmore contracts will be pretty large, they will still fit.
Right now the Bills are looking at $36M in cap room in 2017. That is assuming a team base cap of $166M. Any rollover would be added to the $36M and any new contracts (Gilmore, Taylor, 2016 & 2017 draft classes, etc.) deducted. The franchise tag for QBs in 2016 was $25M so things might still be tight if Taylor has to be tagged.
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Cordy Glenn contract analytics...one of the most player-friendly contracts in the league: https://t.co/Bqw6XJESif
Tyler Dunne Retweeted Bryce Johnston
Really good look at Cordy Glenn's contract extension. Expected to earn 87 percent of the deal.
Holy crap! The OTC link isn't updated with all of the guarantees stated in that article. Spotrac mentions them in theirs. Basically it's a three year deal with two option years. Incredibly player friendly. Wow.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cordy-glenn/
That should be required reading for everyone on here.
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Lets stop talkin about TTs dumbass agent. He is a non issue.
How do you figure?
Because Taylor's best chance to get paid is to do well this year. His only option to get paid more now is to either agree to a lower end, easily exited long term deal (which he does not appear interested in) or to hold out and try to get a bigger one before this season starts. But if he holds out, then he hurts his chances of doing well this season. Thus the conundrum for him and his agent at this point in time. There really is no good option for them other than Taylor preparing and performing as best he can in the 2016 season and getting the best deal possible next offseason.
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Yeah, you always have to wait for the full details to come out. Here's the OTC breakdown:That's a huge gap from the initial reports
http://overthecap.com/player/cordy-glenn/222/
It is pretty standard for contracts of this size to be structured like this. Player gets cash upfront and some additional cash guarantees early in the contract and the team gets to kick a nice chunk of the cap hits into future years. Oh, and Cordy is getting paid very well this year. He already got a check for $16M and he's getting $3M more in salary in 2016.Brilliant move by OBD to pay Cordy's jack **** in 2016. Love me some $8M in cap room.
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Yeah treating players with respect is embarrassing.
Oh, I think you know what I meant.
Spotrac Manage Roster Tool - 2016 Bills Salary Cap
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yeah. The guarantees they're giving do carry some not insignificant risk either. Maybe it's what they think they need to do because of the market here and they think it's a better option than overpaying. If so, then it's an interesting tactic.