BarleyNY
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So go get one.
Until you have one, stick with a decent option in Tyrod and try and win with him.
A reasonable take until you look at Taylor's contract. A team is better off moving on rather than way overpaying a QB that's only a decent option.
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Don't have the time or inclination to research how many of these QB's won a SB in their 1st or 2nd season as a starter which is what you think TT should have already done.
Since you do have such time and inclination, can you show us that ?
I don't think that's his point. He's just showing the caliber of QBs who have won championships. The importance of such a QB is obviously his point. There are obvious exceptions, but that means playing much slimmer odds.
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The Browns are interested in every QB that might be available. That's not news. MKC has no sources. She just recycles what's already been reported and occasionally throws in her ill informed opinion.
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Thank God that Chris Palmer is on that list.
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.Nothing is going to work. Wait until Brady retires in 5-6 years and then give it a run.
Ralph knew what he was doing. Pay the least amount possible for the coaching staff knowing in advance it wasn't going to work out.
$25M for two seasons of head coaching is a good deal for Pegula how?
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QB or no QB. Superbowl Winning Quarterbacks:
Montana -4
Bradshaw -4
Brady -4
Aikman-3
Manning, P -2
Manning E-2
Plunkett -2
Griese-2
Staubach-2
Big Ben-2
Elway-2
Starr-2
McMahon-1
Rypien-1
Simms-1
Young-1
Wilson-1
Flacco-1
Brees-1
Rodgers -1
Stabler-1
Johnson-1
Hostetler-1
Dawson-1
Williams-1
Dilfer-1
Theismann-1
Favre-1
Warner-1
Unitas-1
Namath-1
Bills need an elite Franchise QB. Other teams manage to find them. Instead, OBD's goal is to make the wildcard game and when they don't, they keep telling everybody how close they are.
TBR
Agreed. Play this game for a championship or don't bother IMO. With very rare exceptions, a FQB is a necessary piece. It's not sufficient to get you one, but it makes it possible. The real problem this season is finding one. This is a rough QB class, but there may actually be some talent available in FA or via trade.
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Thanks sharing your hard work.
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That's like admiring the prettiest turd in the grass at the dog run...
That's a stupid simile. Gilmore is an excellent corner. He's a legit #1 in this league and it's a hell of a lot easier building a respectable corps of DBs with one of those in place than with nothing.
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I think they will tag him
They should.
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Losing Gilmore would be a very big setback. He's a top 10 CB in this league and really the only bright spot currently in the Bills' secondary. But, you know, carry on......
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I do not know enough about Salaries and Cap to make a judgement. And who know what is going right now with Bills considering 24 potential open roster spots.
Wish it was easier. But this is the Bills
I'll be honest here. Looking at the draftable QBs out there, the Bills might feel like they're stuck. This QB class is not good and they might believe they're better off keeping TT for 2-3 more seasons while they find their FQB. They've got a small window to see what they can get via FA before they have to decide in his option - and then there's also potential trades.
His yearly cap hit won't be bad... I won't say it again.
Well, it's a pretty tough contract. Some of the cap pain can be spread over an additional season, but then you're dealing with some real dead money in a season when he's not on the roster. That's not great. $40.5M for two seasons of service is well beyond his worth. That's what you're going to get - even if some of that cap hit can be pushed into a third season.
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You just can't force it. Yes, go after a guy with a legit chance at being a FQB. But don't waste precious draft capital on mirages or big reaches. The OP is way overstating the matter by saying not to go after one in rounds 1-3. That's ridiculous. I don't see a guy worth a top 10 pick, but there are guys I'd jump at in the 2nd round. I'd even move up from our second rounder for a couple.I don't believe a QB this year is the best course of action but that's more of a function of the specific players. I like Watson some, not big on Kizer or Trubisky and think Mahomes is a lottery ticket. The available players determine if it's time or not.
You can't ever say "we need a QB let's go find one." That's how you end up with EJ. You say "I think Blake Bortles is a franchise guy, let's go get him."
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rich people problems
Don't even get me started on my Paris pied-à-terre renovation.
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"One thing to take into account with all of this is that Roethlisberger retiring would cause him to owe the Steelers $18.6 million, barring a clause in his contract preventing such a payback."[/size]
He's got almost 19 million reasons to be on that field next year.
It is possible that Roethlisberger would have to repay that money, but it is rare that portions of signing bonuses are required to be repaid. The CBA has very strong language against repayment, but contracts can have clauses that require it. Roethlisberger could have one. It's odd that the reporter states that he'd need a clause preventing a repayment as the default is that no repayment would need to be made.
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You are way off on the financials. He's due only $12M next season and $17M in each of 2018 and 2019. $12M is Ryan Fitzpatrick money. This is about his payday. Also he would not have to pay back any of his signing bonus money if he were to retire. The Steelers really have no choice here. They've got to pony up and if/when they do, he'll play.He is owed 19 million for next season alone. He is not going anywhere. Plus he might have to pay back some of that signing bonus. Like Brett Farve said Big Ben is just talking like that because his team just lost and that hurts. By July he will be ready to go
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ben-roethlisberger-3595/
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What I like about statistical analysis is that it compares all 32 teams without human bias. Which is generally more accurate than an assessment from a frustrated fan who watches three or four games a week and emotionally and irrationally blames the quarterback for all of his team's problems.
Potentially bad news for the Tyrod haters: the new OC was Tyrod's QB coach in Baltimore.
And if Tyrod's old QB coach from B-more takes a pass, what would that tell you?
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Keep Taylor as a bridge till someone better is here.
$27.5M next season needs to be replaced by incentives.
If Taylor would rework his deal, then I'd definitely be on board with keeping him as a bridge. But I see him leaving and not looking back if his extension isn't picked up by the Bills. It already looks like there are some hard feelings about week 17 and we aren't likely to be the highest bidder with our cap situation. Some team will way overpay for him anyway.
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Maybe if he goes to Denver. Otherwise, no.
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TT is an average to below average starter. If the heavens align he could take you to the playoffs - true. But he's inaccurate, slow on delivery and takes way to long to recognize an open receiver. If this is all tha makes you happy, well then he's your guy. I want a real franchise QB like that loser Aaron Rodgers.
One of the more telling things I saw last season was watching defenses stack the box against the run and go straight up man or man with a robber on Watkins. I kept watching for Taylor to audible out and I honestly never saw that happen. Either he wasn't allowed to do so or he decided not to. Either way, that is terribly concerning to me. A QB has to be able to take advantage of those situations because you aren't going to beat good teams if you can't.
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Believe me I'm not saying TT is rodgers. Rodgers is in arguably a top 3 qb in the game right now.
I'm arguing against how stupid the 4th quarter comebacks stat is. It is a team stat much more than a qb stat imo. This 0-35 includes games where gb took the lead and the defense gave up a game winning score.
The 4th quarter comeback stat can be misleading, but confidence in your QB to provide your team a chance in those situations is of enormous importance. Does anyone here really think Tyrod Taylor can be counted on to drive down the field late in the 4th quarter to beat a playoff caliber team? I sure don't. I'd happily put the ball in Aaron Rodger's hand though. Here is all I could find on the matter:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RodgAa00
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=TaylTy00
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Interesting article. I'll be thinking of that today watching the NFCC game. But it's still stupid for a lot of reasons to compare Tyrod Taylor to Aaron Rodgers.
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What about the Dallas game?
I think Dallas only tied that game in the 4th quarter.
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I'm not going to argue last season's grades, but the WR/TE corps is looking pretty rough right now. We've got a #1 who hasn't been able to stay healthy and just had another foot surgery. Woods is a FA whom I do not expect back. And that's pretty much it for worthwhile WRs on the team. TE similarly begins and ends with Clay. He needs some help though. It's embarrassing to regularly have to trot out an extra OL to block in 2 TE sets. There should've been some real attention to WR and TE over the last couple seasons. Some of us have been harping on it because we saw this situation on the horizon. Now here it is.
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It's too much, even for one season. And Taylor would be in for two at that rate. As painful as it might be, the Bills need to walk away. I understand why they might do it - and why some fans want them to - but everyone will regret it if it happens. It'd just be wishful thinking and unwarranted hope leading to a bad decision.