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    pegula equal daniel snyder?

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    I mean, if you think he's incredibly rich and meddlesome in decisions then what's the time limit before you are allowed to make comments reflecting that? It's a sports message board not like the OP is writing the final word on the guy and things can't change

    I don't think 2 seasons is close unless there's some really bad stuff coming out about how he operates. To compare Pegula to Dan Snyder after two seasons is freaking ridiculous. Hell, Dan Snyder isn't even Dan Snyder anymore. He's even dialed it back quite a bit.

     

    There's got to be a reasonable expectation of a learning curve for Pegula. I think he initially handled Marrone and Whaley correctly when he bought the team. He wanted them to prove themselves before extending them. Whaley was good with that, Marrone wasn't. I think that's why Whaley gets this chance. I can understand it even if I'd have moved on from him. He brought in Rex after Marrone bailed. I can see that too. I wasn't in interviews, but the talent on defense was stacked and Rex had had so much success on that side of the ball I see where it would look like a great match. I thought it would be initially. I had no idea that Rex could be so irretrievably stupid and inflexible with his scheme. Pegula dropped him after two seasons and I applaud him for it. He didn't let that travesty continue.

     

    So Pegula came in with a need for a HC and QB. In two seasons he tried to find his HC in Rex. Rex brought in Tyrod to be the QB. Neither worked out. The three most important people in the building after the owner are HC, GM and QB (in whatever order you want to put them in). They're also the most difficult to find. Pegula and the Bills are on their second shot at two of those and still on their first of one. That's not a pattern. Bills fans are just so frustrated with the mediocrity and sub-mediocrity of the team for so many years they are taking it out on the guy who just got here. I'm sure what's been going on with the Pegula owned Sabres isn't helping, but I gotta be honest there - the tank was the right thing to do.

    QB: trade value

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    I wouldn't trade for any of these guys. Dallas is not going to trade Romo, as he will count as 19.6 million in dead cap money for 2017. They're already paying him for 2017, why not keep him as a back-up for DP?

    As for the other guys, are you talking about trading for them to be our back-up QB? If not...

    Oddly, Dallas will likely still part ways with Romo (or possibly rework his deal to a much cheaper salary). It's a huge amount of dead money, but it would actually save them $5.1M against the cap in 2017. That's if he's traded or cut under regular rules. If they cut him and designate him a June 1st cut then $8.9M of dead money would be deferred to 2018. That's $14M that could be freed up for 2017 for a team in dire need of short term cap space. Dallas is currently projected to be $1.7M over the 2017 cap and they have over $115M scheduled to be allocated to the offense. That's unreal. I haven't dug into their contracts, but Romo seems an obvious place to start. He's very, very expensive, getting older and is usually injured.

     

    Oh, I don't want Romo unless he's a free agent and cheap, which is incredibly unlikely. He's just too fragile at this point in his career.

     

    Foles, if he hits the market, would likely be the best of the lot.

    Schefter says decision is made - Tyrod is gone

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    I do think the perception about Watson being run first would not exist if he was white. He isn't run first. He is a good runner, but he is absolutely a passer first.

    True. There are valid concerns that he was not asked to go through the kinds of progressions and make the kinds of reads that will be required of him in the NFL. He executed the offense he was asked to run - half field reads, one or two options before running, etc. - and he did it well. He may or may not make he growth he needs to make it in the NFL - and in that regard he's a lot like every other top QB coming out this year. I don't want to see the Bills reach for a QB, I just want them to get a guy who has a real chance to make it at a reasonable draft value and I want to see them bring him along properly, even if it takes time and frustrates fans.

    I have a sinking feeling...

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    Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

     

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    Well at least when he throws a million head scratching INTs we can get rid of Whaley and turn this team into a winner.

     

    People will regret running Tyrod out of town when Cutlers typical stat line is 23/45 for 312 yds 2TDs 4 INTs and 1 Fumble lost.

     

    Also Cutler will cost a lot more than Tyrod.

     

     

    I totally thought that was going to be a pic of Cutler puking.

     

    Expect a bridge QB to be signed - at a lot less than Tyrod's contract. Then a QB will be drafted to complete our trio.

    Schefter says decision is made - Tyrod is gone

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    To trade up for a QB it will be the 10th pick, a 2018 1st and a 2nd rounder. Something like that is the going rate. We saw it twice last year.

     

    I'd much prefer to go the other way this year and trade 10 for a 2018 1st and get another 2nd this year. The QBs are in 2018 not 2017. Let's not make the same mistake that we made in 2013, trying to draft a QB in a bad QB draft.

    This isn't the season to move up from 10 for a QB. Every single one of them needs significant development. Take a chance on one of them on day 1 or 2, but don't overdraft one. This team needs too much to waste draft capital. Also expect to start seeing the name Josh Allen in these conversations. I haven't made my mind up on him yet, but he might very well be the first QB off the board. And he just declared.

    Schefter says decision is made - Tyrod is gone

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    This. Bet if our defense was as good as it was supposed to be we couldve made it into the playoffs and won a game or two.

     

    I've seen a lot of this crap, too. The defense was very average - 15th in yards/game and 16th in points per game. They weren't what they were two seasons ago and they weren't what Rex told us we'd get, but they weren't nearly the biggest issue on the team. It wasn't the 1st ranked run offense either. My guess at what held the Bills back most in 2016 was their 31st ranked passing offense. Specials didn't help either.

    Schefter says decision is made - Tyrod is gone

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    Where do you see $40.5 million? I see $15.9 million in 2017 and $16.7 million in 2018. That is a very reasonable salary for a starting QB, and like I said, if there is no alternative, then why wouldn't we? Unless we plan to tank.

     

    Are you rolling 2019, 2020, and 2021 signing bonus into that assuming we cut him after 2018? Even then, I believe there is some cap relief in spreading it out to 2019.

     

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyrod-taylor-7899/

    Money paid or guaranteed to a player must be accounted for on the cap. Some of Taylor's cap hit would be deferred, but those dollars still must be accounted for. Deferring a cap hit can help in the near term, but eventually the team has to take the hit.

     

    I'm so sick of reading this bull ****. There isn't a quarterback alive who can get a team to a Super Bowl all by himself.

     

    BS. The Bills beat one .500+ team this season - the Patriots who started an injured 3rd string QB. Taylor is a big part of the reason why, I'm not putting it all on him (or any QB) to carry the team to a SB, but he should be able to help them get there and not hold the team back.

    Bills' Player to Tyler Dunne: Rob Ryan was the Problem on D

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    Same as Rex ruining Schwartz D the year before. It's not just Rob it's the Ryan Scheme overall.

    Yup. My first thought upon reading the OP was, "Well okay, then whose fault was it in 2015?" I'm sure Rob was part of the problem, but the real issue was the Ryan scheme and the inflexibility of Rex (and Rob). They didn't change their scheme to keep in step with today's NFL and they sure didn't tailor it to their personnel. That major coaching failure is on them.

    Schefter says decision is made - Tyrod is gone

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    Because you have to take a look at the field with your coach and look at alternatives. If Tyrod is the best available QB, we need to put the best available on the field. The contract itself isn't even awful or overbearing.

     

    So yes, they probably already saw what they need to see but that isn't the whole of the decision, unless they plan on tanking.

    No chance. Whaley will have made his decision about Tyrod and he will go with a coach that agrees with him. No way does he tie himself to a coach that he doesn't see eye to eye with.

     

    And Tyrod's contract is substantial. The team will be tied to him for at least two seasons at a cost of $40.5M. You've got to genuinely believe in him to move forward with him because he's going to be your QB. If you're Whaley, then he's going to be the guy you tie your tenure in Buffalo to. If you're the new HC, then with Tyrod you have real, immediate expectations for improvement. He's got to be your guy. Or you can choose your own guy and get a little extra time.

     

    I don't see the Bills keeping Tyrod. He's the best QB that's been in Buffalo in a long, long time, but he's limited. He's not going to get you to a Super Bowl. That is really the clincher for me.

    Schefter says decision is made - Tyrod is gone

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    33 pages for a rumor. Very impressive boys and girls.

    I can not believe they would have made this decision already. It has nothing to do with the Jets game.

    First they don't have to make a decision right now. Second they don't have a HC to get their input.

    This is 100% speculation.

     

    I can't believe this. How can the front office NOT have made their decision? They've seen everything there is to see. Nothing new is going to come to light before the decision needs to be made. It's done. There could be no greater indictment of the front office than if they didn't know what they were going to do. Part ways with Tyrod. Keep Tyrod. Either is far better than not knowing what they're going to do.

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