BarleyNY
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Not a huge fan of Clayton, but there isn't anything he's said which isn't true. The schedule will be tougher and they'll be starting at least 2 rookies in their defensive front 7.
I agree with this. The Bills had a nice draft, but they lost a lot of talent - even if some of that talent wasn't producing due to scheme, motivation or whatever reason. Their biggest moves were retaining some of their free agents. They'll have to rely on better use of the talent they have, familiarity with the schemes implemented last season and development of players to improve.
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Where's your list ? I have Tyrod around 18-21
Yeah, I have him at 17, right in the middle of the "good with additional potential" group. That's the group that inspires hope and breath holding, but still has to grow.
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This.. I was excited at first, but then saw a tweet that his longest return for the steelers was 38 yards. I can't find it now but either way that isn't too promising. My buddy who is also a Pitt fan said he couldn't find holes in the return to save his life. Here's to hoping his vision improves!
Edit: There it is.
KICK RETURN
Year Team G Ret Yds Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC FUM
2015 Pittsburgh Steelers 8 14 354 25.3 38 0 10 0 0 0
2014 Pittsburgh Steelers 12 9 161 17.9 23 0 4 0 0 0
I'll echo that assessment. My wife is a Steelers fan so I see a bunch of their games every season. When I saw Archer get the ball and run his speed just jumped off the screen. It really wowed me. But it was amazing how little he did with it. He doesn't look like a football player out there. Just no football skills - and he is an easy tackle, too. He's a tremendous tease because all you can think about is what he could do if he could get the ball in the open field, but it almost never happens. He doesn't take a good angle, he doesn't find a hole, he gets arm tackled at the line, etc. It was actually frustrating for me to watch him play because every time he touches the ball it looks like he could do something amazing, but never does.
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Please block me. It will alleviate all your problems.
As far as I know, Lawson has had no problems off the field.
Thanks for sharing what you can.
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1) Rodgers
2) Brady
3) Cam
4) Big Ben
5) Brees
6) Wilson
7) Luck
8) Eli
9) Flacco
10) Palmer
11) Romo
12) Rivers
13) Ryan
14) Dalton
15) Winston
16) Bortles
17) Tyrod
18) Mariota
19) Goff
20) Griffin
21) Carr
22) Bridgewater
23) Wentz
24) Lynch
25) Alex Smith
26) Stafford
27) Osweiler
28) Tannehill
29) Cutler
30) Cousins
31) Fitzpatrick
32) Sanchez
I could move a lot of these a couple of spaces either way. The interesting thing about ranking the QBs was the stratification. Franchise QBs at the top, then very good QBs who can get hot and carry a team, followed by good QBs who have never been able to push their team over the top, followed by young QBs with high potential, then risk/potential types, then stopgaps and guys you want to replace.
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Just saw the eMoulds post. Dammit.
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Agree that just looking at OJ the football player he is one of the best ever. Maybe second only to Jim Brown.
However, not unlike Pete Rose the football player is also a person who has a life and impact beyond the field. I don't think his jersey should be officially retired. However, as a means to avoid controversy it should also not be assigned out until after OJ has passed on. To me this seems like a balanced approach to the issues.
Wow. That's a well thought out and well reasoned opinion. I totally agree.
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At no point was Bradford looking at walking away from the game. That is BS. He wanted to go to another team that didn't have another QB to challenge him. He's a hypocrite and he should thank every star in the sky and any Gods that he can think of that he was good at college football because his career in the NFL isn't much more impressive than mine.
I want to clear up something because I think we are arguing two different situations. At this point in the conversation I thought we were talking about whether or not he would continue to play AFTER his contract in Philly ends - be that if he is cut after this season, gets traded next offseason or plays through 2017 in Philly. I was not talking about him walking away prior to the 2016 season. He was always going to have to play somewhere in 2016. The only question was where. He tried to force a trade and it didn't work. Sorry for any confusion I created. I didn't meant to frame players who've made a lot of money turning down offers as "insulting", just that they aren't worth it to them - especially players with injury histories. I remember Urlacher talking about turning down a one year, $2M contract and choosing to retire. He was careful to say that $2M was a lot of money, but it just wasn't worth it to him because of health reasons and what he'd already made. That's all.Barley, you make good points, but they frame the argument that they are insulted to play at the lower wage. If a person feels it is too much of a risk to his health, then just retire. I don't fault nay guy who retires young like the SF Rookie the other year if he does not want to take that risk. I thought it actually took a lot of courage, and even gave back without argument the bulk of his signing bonus. I understand your point though and appreciate the opinion.
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The crazy thing about the logic of "how can he play for 7-10 mil/yr, when he made 100 mil is he'll never make 7 figures again most likely.
Negotiating is fine, but these egos they will regret in 10 years. I make a very nice living as I'm sure many of you do as well, but to have the opportunity to keep the seven figure trail going to be completely retired for the back half of your life enjoying your family, volunteering, and doing things you believe in without worrying about money is crazy.
As,e for Fitzy. Negotiate as long as possible, see what you can get in a contract, but even a Harvard grad is not going to get 7-10 mil for the next two years.
There's a big difference here. The wear and tear on bodies and brains in the NFL is a factor. Once you've made a whole lot of money - NINE figures in Bradford's case - things like concussions, CTE and other injuries are big considerations. $100M and walking away healthy might look a lot better than $110M with potential health issues.
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I'm sure that you're right about kick offs. Teams will still try to eliminate return opportunities by dangerous KRs though.The new KO rule is that touchbacks will now come out to the 25 yd line. That change may affect a team's strategy on KOs as a result.
Teams may now decide to not kick the ball into the end zone so that may put more of a premium on KO returns, thus the signing of Archer.
Archer also returns punts.
He could also play some RB and WR.
He's a HR hitter for sure.
The knock on guys like him and Goodwin is that they are too slightly built so they just don't hold up tot he NFL punishment.
Funny thing comparing these two "home run hitters". Goodwin has 3 career TDs, all long receptions in 2013. Archer has zero career TDs. I was surprised to see that, especially with a strong armed QB throwing the ball. Your point about players like them not being able to stay healthy is a big part of why they've both had such little production. The other is that they seem to be much more athletes than football players.
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July 15: 4 p.m. ET, deadline for any club that designated a Franchise Player to sign such player to a multiyear contract or extension. After this date, the player may sign only a one-year contract with his prior club for the 2016 season, and such contract cannot be extended until after the club's last regular season game.[/size]
Thank you.
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All he has to do is stay healthy and BAM! He's already an upgrade over Goodwin.
They're pretty much the same guy. Incredibly fast, often injured and non productive in the NFL. You are probably on to something comparing the two. They're probably each other's competition for a roster spot as a KR and end of bench WR/occasional RB. Whomever stays healthy gets the spot?
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If the team HAD to lose either Gilmore or Tyrod, which loss would be more devastating? Would you like to go back to EJ? Ya think that would work? :)Seriously, you are quite the good poster. I mean this but I suggest that you open your eyes, if even to a squint.
Wow. You really had to work hard there. Sorry, but pretending that our choices are:
- Keep Gilbert and go back to EJ or
- Lose Gilbert and keep Tyrod
is pretty ridiculous. Reality is that Gilbert has earned his next, big contract over the last four years. Tyrod hasn't earned his yet, not with one good season. Gilbert will likely get paid very soon. Taylor will get paid next season if he earns it. The Bills can keep both if Tyrod earns his place.
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Front loading seems to be the way that the Bills are doing business. It's nice to have a rich owner. I'd venture to say that Bills players are seeing more of their money than others. They aren't tacking on some giant base at the end that guys will never see.
Yeah. The guarantees they're giving do carry some not insignificant risk either. Maybe it's what they think they need to do because of the market here and they think it's a better option than overpaying. If so, then it's an interesting tactic.
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I tend to agree but I do love speed (as do the Bills). Give him a shot and see if he can contribute and if not, no big deal.
Yup. Doesn't hurt to kick the tires.
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Meh. His only value is as a good kickoff returner and I don't see him sticking if that is all he has to offer. He did not produce at all for the Steelers and I don't know why that would change in Buffalo. He's really been a complete flop in the NFL. I don't expect him to make the 53.
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Here is a list of WRs set to become UFAs in 2017. Obviously some won't make it to FA (coughAlshoncoughJefferycough):
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the problem with trading him is he's on the franchise tag. The team who trades for him would need to know they will be able to sign him to a long term deal or it's a one year rental before he hits FA. Even if they could give him the amount he wants, he would have to want to go to that team too or he won't agree to a long term deal. This makes the list of potential trade partners slim. His goal is to get to FA.
This is an interesting situation to me. The Jest won't trade Wilkerson (except for a first and more). They're not even serious about that because they haven't given his agent permission to negotiate a LTD with other teams. They don't have the cap space to re-sign Fitz - even at their current offer - without dealing Wilkerson (or possibly signing him to a LTD), but say they want him to be their QB. They seem far apart with Wilkerson and I don't think they're even negotiating with him at is point.
I believe the deadline for negotiations with franchise tagged players is June 15th (or thereabouts). If he doesn't sign a LTD before then he will be playing under the tag this season and that money is locked up. I don't know what they'd do for a QB at that point. Weird situation.
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Good post that outlines the difference between critique someone personally and critiquing ideas presented in posts.
Thanks!
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With respect to what's acceptable and expected behavior here, IMO there's a big difference between calling out a post and a poster. IOW, "You're stupid!" is unacceptable as its a personal attack. "This post is stupid!" is different (although I probably wouldn't use the word "stupid"). If you post here, sooner or later you are going to have a post ripped apart by someone else. I've had occasions where I've realized, after thinking about what was written, that those ripping my posts were right and I was wrong. I admitted I was wrong and moved on. I've had more occasions where I got ripped, thought about what was said to me, defended my posts and told those ripping my posts that they were wrong. And I told them why they were wrong. Around here some thick skin doesn't hurt either.
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And if he plays mediocre? Last year was the most yards he's ever thrown for, and he got beat out by freaking Ryan Fitzpatrick, who is currently in the unemployment line.
Well, his current contract guarantees him $22M. He's made $78M outside of that. So that's $100M total. What do you think he's going to play for after that? Some third tier $7M one year stopgap contract? No freaking way. If he's not getting big bucks he might play for a contender to taste the playoffs and chase a ring. That's it. And a team a QB away from a SB run would jump on him if he was a FA and willing to play for $7M-$10M. Teams like Denver or Dallas (post inevitable Romo injury) would be delighted to have him at a decent price.
Browns fans everywhere sincerely hope not.
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At least Woods will be highly motivated to have a great season before a new contract.
Yeah. He'd yield a comp pick, too.
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It's one of the reasons why I wanted Braxton Miller in the 3rd round.
Yeah, I agree. I wasn't totally dialed into one prospect, but I wanted the Bills to come away with a quality prospect. Miller would have been great in the 3rd. That's the latest I wanted to see one drafted.
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Why Robert Woods may be harder to keep in FA than you think http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-analysis-all-22/2016/5/10/11646004/robert-woods-contract-projection-marvin-jones-mohamed-sanu-comparison?utm_campaign=buffalorumblings&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Good find, Yolo. The contracts that second and third tier WRs were getting this past offseason were crazy. Woods is in line for a similar contract to Sanu (plus 5-8% due to cap increase) and the Bills should let him go if that's the case. Sanu isn't worth what he got and Woods isn't worth that much either. I'm not sure what he'd be willing to take as a contract extension now, but I can't imagine the discount would be deep enough to make it worthwhile for the Bills. Woods is looking at a five year deal at $6.5M-$7M a year and $14M-$15M guaranteed next offseason if the market holds. The 2016 free agency period didn't have much in the way of WRs and some serious premiums were paid. I have no idea what the 2017 class will look like.
Dri Archer claimed off waivers
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Spiller is 10 times the player Archer is.
Just looking at filling a need and a player's measurables, I'd wager. It's easy to talk yourself into picking someone in that case.