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Here's a crappy gif of the final play. https://i.imgur.com/XGNOC0X.gifv As expected, Clay runs to the middle of the back of the end zone and then coasts to his right until Allen throws it. Also not shocking, Benjamin runs down the right sideline to the back of the end zone and then runs past Clay towards the middle of the back of the end zone. What's kind of interesting is there's a defender near Clay when Allen throws it, but he starts running with KB and leaves Clay wide open. Not good execution on the final, most important play of the game. They've got 3 guys in the end zone like they have to score on the play. Really the main conclusion I draw from this play is that they desperately need to practice a similar situation in practice and also scramble drills.

A few examples of why I don't think the game is too fast for him are when he runs. The first was against the browns in the preseason when he side stepped a pass rusher near the goal line and then threw a TD. Against the jags he setup Bodine's block near the goal line to score. On Sunday he had the scramble where he had to hold the ball behind him and then raised it up over the defender to protect the ball. These are all split second decisions he's making on the fly. I can never imagine Allen clumsily running into his own lineman ala Sanchez, I think he sees the field too well for that. I think it's just a matter of time before he's able to quickly recognize coverages and make quicker decisions in the pocket. I could easily be wrong, but the game just doesn't seem too big or too fast for him.

It's not even that part that annoyed me. It was Clay standing in the corner of the end zone while your QB has scrambled to the opposite side of the field. If it was the last play of the game, fine, but there was time and he didn't need to force Allen into that tough of a throw. This is why I want to see the all-22. Was he just standing at the back of the end zone? With the amount of time Allen was scrambling, it seems like Clay should have had time to already come back to at least the goal line when the throw was made.

$4.5 million dead cap hit if he's cut https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/charles-clay-7893/ With the amount of room they have, that's not much, and there's no hit after next year.

Anyone have access to the all-22? I'd be interested to see what Clay was doing before the ball was thrown. In the replays it looks like there's no one in front of Clay. It's 4th and 11 with enough time on the clock that they didn't need a score there, it looks like he should have been coming back towards Allen even before he made the throw. At least be back near the goal line and give your QB some help.

Allen is the most pressured QB when in the pocket for 3 seconds or less, so no, the line is not above average.

I swear, reading this thread you'd think other QB's in the league are completing 90% of their passes. I agree wholeheartedly with the OP, Allen is much more accurate than I thought he'd be. His misses aren't that far off. The Foster bomb, the Foster sideline thrown, and Jones towards the sideline were all throws you want him to make but they aren't easy throws. The crossing pattern by Zay where Allen threw high was probably his worst throw (that or the INT) and that one Zay could have had, but it wasn't easy. The throw to Zay where there was a holding penalty and Allen threw it too far, Zay wasn't running when Allen threw it. Like the missed TD, I think that was more of a miscommunication than anything. He missed one to Benjamin early that it looked like KB may have been able to come back and fight for the ball. For a guy that is supposed to be good at catching contested passes, I've been extremely underwhelmed by Benjamin. Allen also threw it away 4 or 5 times. In terms of his short area accuracy or throws with touch, he had a short throw to Clay, the 2-point conversion, the touch pass to DiMarco, two quick throws to McKenzie, the comeback to KB, and a few others. I think his short area accuracy has gotten better and he was solid this game. I don't recall any misfires that prevented a catch or YAC by the receiver. In terms of scrambling, well you can't really blame him for it. The o-line is not good and this stat proves it. You can't really claim it's because he holds the ball too long as this stat takes that into account. Another thing that impressed me yesterday was how little he got hit while scrambling. Last game he lowered his should a time or two when he shoulda gone out of bounds or slide while yesterday he didn't really take any shots while scrambling. It was a noticeable improvement in one game. Allen is leaps and bounds further along than I expected him to be at this point. If he was playing like this at the beginning of next year, I would have been extremely happy. His line isn't giving him much time and he isn't getting bailed out by his receivers. Unless it's a average difficulty catch or less, it's almost always dropped. Can you guys think of one spectacular catch by someone this year? The Foster bomb last week was probably the best so far. Yes, he's missing some throws (literally every QB does) and I'm sure he's missing some reads, but he is so much better right now that I was expecting. He's making throws down the field we haven't seen in years, buying time in the pocket, and getting better every week. Beane himself said they need to do a better job of adding talent around him. It's going to be fun watching him develop.

I imagine my wife's eyes almost rolled into the back of her head after that play due to my rant. No reason to expose him like that. Earlier in the year they ran a QB draw on 3rd and something ridiculous like 24. I have a hard time evaluating offensive coordinators. If a guy misses a block or the QB doesn't make the right read, you can blame the OC even if it was a good call. Those run calls though, come on Daboll.

Damn is it refreshing to see a Bills MLB be able to carry a WR down the middle of the field.

I'm 100% sure this stat will lead to all sorts of justification about off coverage when teams are beating the bills ass, him being the number 2 receiver or whatever else. I am also in no way shape or form saying Jones is anywhere near the level the guys they mention. I just saw this and wanted to point it out. I will say, calling him the biggest bust in living memory may be a bit of an exaggeration.

Pressures Drop backs faced Pressure rate Pittsburgh Steelers 59 143 41.25874126 Buffalo Bills 54 131 41.22137405 Philadelphia Eagles 51 129 39.53488372 Baltimore Ravens 47 121 38.84297521 Los Angeles Rams 39 101 38.61386139 Chicago Bears 45 118 38.13559322 Minnesota Vikings 44 116 37.93103448 New York Giants 41 109 37.6146789 Arizona Cardinals 41 111 36.93693694 Washington Redskins 44 122 36.06557377 Cincinnati Bengals 50 143 34.96503497 Dallas Cowboys 38 110 34.54545455 Jacksonville Jaguars 36 107 33.64485981 New England Patriots 44 131 33.58778626 San Francisco 49ers 47 140 33.57142857 Kansas City Chiefs 50 151 33.11258278 Carolina Panthers 39 118 33.05084746 New York Jets 40 123 32.5203252 Tennessee Titans 36 111 32.43243243 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 45 139 32.37410072 Los Angeles Chargers 34 109 31.19266055 Green Bay Packers 37 119 31.09243697 Cleveland Browns 34 118 28.81355932 Denver Broncos 33 115 28.69565217 Indianapolis Colts 35 127 27.55905512 Seattle Seahawks 32 119 26.8907563 Miami Dolphins 32 126 25.3968254 Atlanta Falcons 35 138 25.36231884 Detroit Lions 21 84 25 New Orleans Saints 27 110 24.54545455 Houston Texans 21 97 21.64948454 Oakland Raiders 19 98 19.3877551 https://buffalonews.com/2018/09/27/enormous-game-vs-vikings-vaults-bills-pass-rush-near-top-of-nfl-in-pressure-rate/ Not too shabby. Murphy looked better last game, maybe he's finally getting healthy and in playing shape. Hughes is obviously playing at a very high level right now, I believe only Mack has more pressures on the year. They schemed up a few pressures last game by bringing Milano on rushes and dropping Murphy. I also like seeing Alexander rushing from the inside on obvious passing downs. He's can run stunts to catch the interior lineman off guard or he can drop back and play short zone. "The Bills play the Green Bay Packers in Week Four. Green Bay is currently 22nd in defensive pressure rate at 31.0 percent. Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has been pressured 33.5 percent of the time (44 times on 131 drop backs) thus far in the 2018 season."

I was about to post the same thing. Looks like he's yelling at the ref for a flag already. I remember when he threw a pick in preseason and hit the defending near the goal line and caused a fumble. As he got up he started giving the touch back signal. Seems like he's got pretty good awareness.

I wonder if the game slowed down a little bit for him. Accuracy on short throws is something he needed to work on. Even last week he missed a short throw, albeit on the run, to Murphy. Against the Vikings, everything was on target (minus the one deep ball). He hit guys in stride on swing passes, screens, and Croom on the wheel route. Just last week he almost missed a wide open DiMarco on a similar throw. Hopefully he can continue to show that type of accuracy and decision making.

Lorax rushing from DT in the wide 9 looks seemed to work well. He and Kyle were doing a great job of compressing the pocket while Hughes was going to work. Gotta give the secondary credit too, they had good coverage a lot of the day. Corner depth is a concern, but they played well yesterday.

This one is so bad. He has a solid pocket, all he has to do is hold it for a fraction of a second longer to see Croom WIDE open. Even at the time of the throw the CB has a 5 yard cushion with his hips open. KB is not fast, he's not going to run past that corner. This article actually made me feel quite a bit better. It seemed like every time they showed receivers down the field during the telecast, everyone was blanketed. I just assumed that was all game, but it's clear Peterman was missing guys left and right.

I really hope Murphy gets healthy and can play close to 100%. The D-line coach was talking him up and I had a buddy who's a former Redskin season ticket holder talk him up quite a bit. I'm excited for Eddie too, it looks and sounds like he's putting in a ton of work and hopefully learning a lot from Hughes. Those 3 and Shaq might not be a world beating DE unit, but I think they could be solid and deep. Remember 5 years or so ago when Kyle had surgery on both achilles and people said he was done? Good times.

Is anyone else annoyed by the "they backed into the playoffs due to the Bengals help" nonsense? A. Most teams in the playoffs needed some sort of help at some point. Yes, it came down to the final few minutes, I don't care. B. Since the division restructure in 2002 (16 years), a 9-7 team or worse has made the playoffs in all but 3 years. Call me a baby, I'm sure I sound like one, but damn that annoys me. It's not like they got in the playoffs with a 7-9 record.

This is what I think happened as well. My only other gripe with his performance was the throw to Lee around the 3:40 mark of the video. He opens up too much on the throw. This is something that was brought up about his footwork at Wyoming on throws to the left which led to some inaccuracy. It's not a bad throw to Lee, but as the guy mentioned, it could have been better.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/285647672 I'm not sure if this video has been posted yet, I looked down a few pages and didn't see it. First, what a tremendous play. Taking a bad snap, dodging quick pressure, and making an accurate throw. Looking at it more closely though, it's even more impressive. The Browns are baiting him into a quick throw to Streater, but he eyes the safety and doesn't go for it. Then after the pressure and a quick look at his second read, he steps up in the pocket, looks right to his third read, presumably Holmes who should be coming into the middle of the field, then quickly looks left back to his first read and hits Streater. Lastly, while he's stepping up, he's going to the right of Miller. As soon as the defender starts breaking that way, he cuts back to the left towards the end zone before throwing the ball. It's a good thing he threw it too, because I don't think he would have got in as another defending was filling that gap. Very quick and impressive awareness considering what was happening around him. For someone that needs to work on going through his progressions, he sure made going through his first 3 reads, back to his first receiver, while under a lot of pressure, look pretty easy. As always, good stuff from https://twitter.com/Cover_1_ I was pissed on draft night as someone in the "Anyone but Allen" group, but he's already got me on the bandwagon.

I thought about that too. The kid has me giddy.

Final question I have, if you had a choice between the worst school and the best school to send your kid, which would you pick? It shouldn't matter, right? As you say, it's all on you, so the school shouldn't matter, right? It obviously does matter. You can't teach your kid everything. Like it or not, you have the biggest impact, but so does the school they go to, other adults, and their friends.

You're right, it probably is an indication of the realities they come from. So why not try to teach them these things in school? I'm seriously baffled at how you guys can admit kids come from backgrounds where they don't have parents teaching them important lessons and in the next sentence call me an idiot for saying schools should be trying to teach them the same lessons. High school. If they aren't teaching kids these lessons, how are they supposed to learn these things? You see the problem here? I'm an idiot for thinking schools should teach more relevant information to kids? We obviously aren't going to go anywhere, so let's get back to something we can agree on, Hue Jackson is a terrible leader.

I'm don't necessarily disagree with anything you're saying. At the same time, I don't understand why you think teaching basic finance is "passing the buck." Did your parents teach you the calculus and algebra you use everyday? I'm guessing no, you probably learned that in school. Kids learn things at school, parents can't teach them everything. Basic finance is important to everyone, calculus and algebra is not. I completely understand your point when you say your daughters standards are set by you. That's not my point. I think the curriculum schools teach isn't necessarily the most helpful for kids when they become adults. You might use algebra and calculus everyday, but I sure as hell don't. Calculating a tip would be a lesson in basic finance. In an ideal world, all parents would be like you, but it's just not how it is. I think we'd be better off as a country if we also teaching kids basic finance and other practical skills in school.

Kids are at school learning calculus and all sorts of other subjects that have little real world application except for teachers and a small number of fields. If instead they taught kids those kinds of lessons your parents taught you, it would benefit almost everyone as opposed to calculus which only helps a very small number of kids. There's shop, cooking classes, and all sorts of other electives. There's plenty of time to teach kids how to balance their check book, understand what credit is, and why investing for retirement early is essential. Yes, since schools are not teaching kids these types of valuable lessons, parents should. You should be thankful your parents did, because a imagine a lot don't.

Exactly. This has nothing to do with the players and everything to do with our education system. I didn't know crap about interest or savings until my mom bribed me with $100 to read a book about compound interest and then she also opened up a roth IRA for me.