Clutchwarfare

Very Cool!

Haha, the toxicity, drama and anger AB has brought to the chat room is proof enough. This is a positive thread about how awesome it is to see our favorite team working out together. Sorry I let AB get to me and bring negativity into this space. I realize I have lost my marbles at this point and I should get off the internet for the day. I'll see myself out, have a great weekend everyone.

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Love to see it! ?

Ok, the original point is, please keep our players away from the toxic AB. I'll stick to that. Agree or disagree, doesn't matter to me. Just off season chatting. We could start a whole new thread about whether the league has done AB wrong or if the game was taken from him. However I'm already ashamed that I have used this amount of time on AB.

I do not think "the game has been taken from him". This man has, on his own accord, flushed his talent down the toilet. No one took anything away from him. He gave it away, whether he regrets it or not.

Who exactly took the game from him? The women he assaulted? The employees he didn't pay? The mother of his children who he humiliates on social media?

Fair enough. One thing I'm sure we agree on: GO BILLS

Respectfully asking serious question: If it's a key player on a team that is expected to compete for playoffs, holds out of camp/regular season games so he can "milk the maximum out of the team", knowing his teammates are counting on him, do you blame them for not compromising on a reasonable number in that case?

If Clowney did this with the Texans, maybe he wouldn't be without a team right now. But he held out, got traded, had an underwhelming season, and is now looking for a pay day, with little leverage. There is long-term value gained in short-term compromise.

As much as I love to pile on the Jests, especially living in NJ, I will not underestimate any divisional game. It's way too important to win at least 4 division games and these teams are built to beat each other. Yes, the Jets will suck, but they will sure as ***** give it their best effort against our Bills. Not worried at all, just not taking it easy against a rival.

Excuse me while I go create several burner accounts so I can submit more answers!! Really love the roster these past 2/3 years.

Should come with a stipulation "other than Josh" But definitly Knox. That amazing Rambo run sealed the deal for me.

Please, please, PRETTY, please, stay the hell away from Antonio Brown!! He is like another viral infection we need to avoid at all cost. Team killer.

Never said "sucks", just not interested. There is and always be endless debate on whether or not a player is selfish for holding out on his team/teammates. I am on the side of selfish but I respect the opinion of those who support their actions. Good example was Le'Veon Bell. I dont think he sucks, I just think he has zero regard for his teammates and I'm not interested in rooting for him on my team. The Jests can have him and Clowney and CJ2K all they want, keep em out of the Bills Locker Room.

In addition to being a "hold out" player, this blurb perfectly sums up the topic: "It’s also worth remembering that Clowney isn’t negotiating from the strongest position, either. For all of his talent and potential, the defensive end hasn’t developed into a massive star; health has been an issue—he has only played a 16-game season once, is coming off a core muscle injury, and can’t currently take an in-person physical—and he’s only recorded 32 sacks during his six professional campaigns". by Joe Kozlowski on May 28, 2020

Not interested in "hold out" players. Houston traded him for a reason.

I think Larry Fitzgerald is a good example of a WR who didn't need legendary QB play to make him a hall of fame receiver. But then again, I think Tom Brady is a good example of a QB who didn't need legendary WR play to make him Hall of Fame QB. So I guess this debate can go either way based on the player in question. GO BILLS!

Fair point on rushing TDs. Well said. Still wouldn't take any other AFC-E QB over Josh tho. Maybe I suffer from "Homer Syndrome", maybe not. We shall see.

Every time I see articles/rankings like this, it makes me wonder if I'm blinded by loyalty; if I'm just too focused on the Buffalo Bills to realize that Josh really is more toward the bottom of the pack. In my mind he's a franchise QB and knocking on the door of the top 10. But nationwide, people just don't see it that way. Maybe it was the lack of prime time games in his 1st two seasons. People constantly overlook the playoff appearance and even the fact that he had more rushing TDs than Lamar Jackson. So my question is: Are we crazy, or is the nationwide NFL audience blind? Probably a combo of both.

Yeah I agree. However its May 27th during a pandemic so let the cold takes fly! Foles; Flacco Looking like justifiable decisions. Also, never forget the Mitch Trubisky contract. But I have faith in Josh. Either way, Josh is not a household name, yet. So allllllll the talking heads will bash a big money signing until he earns his stripes in Prime Time.

This was my first thought after I saw the trade news. More so for Brown.

I used to love Erin Coscarelli. Perfect combo of football knowledge and good looks.

Of course Maddy is no Kay Adams, but hey what can we realistically expect from a local homer show? I like her and it's perfectly fine if some folks don't agree. To each, their own. GO BILLS I don't think "foxy" is too far of a stretch.

Looking forward to this. I know Josh and Sam are good friends. I love the camaraderie, but also want them the fight to the death on the field.