Kirby Jackson

Unless there is something that we are missing, this is a failure. You gave Andy Reid, and the team that you can’t beat, the fastest player in combine history. Why? I was fine going back from 32 to 33 but it should have been 60 (and like 160) for 39 to do that. The Bills haven’t managed this draft well as of now. With that being said, maybe the vet WR is a part of this. Maybe the Bills add Dejean or Newton and trade 60 (& filler) for Ayiuk or Higgins. They can come back at 95 and add someone like Baker. If the Bills walked out with Dejean, Ayiuk and Baker we should feel pretty good. Weaponizing Mahomes though, is not a good idea.

Love Pearsall but not here

I’m disgusted. I don’t hate trading down. I hate giving the team that you can’t beat, the player that you couldnt allow them to have. Worthy in the Chiefs offense is going to be a nightmare.

Worthy or Dejean

Lol, McCarthy sucks. This is an over correction for Purdy lasting so long. Both should have been like 3rd rounders.

The Raiders must be pissed. They are stuck. I think Denver now takes Nix (who also kind of sucks). I have no idea what the Raiders do.

That’s wild!! I mean MAYBE if he was like a raw 19 year-old it would make sense. Penix is like 24 with years of experience. How long before they play him?

I like Penix over McCarthy 🤷🏻‍♂️

Falcons taking QB 🤯🤯

Alt can absolutely play. It just felt like the perfect time to give your franchise QB a weapon.

Fire country

Nabers and/or Odunze are in play with that

Harbaugh is going to Harbaugh

I like Ghosts more than Young Sheldon I think.

Millions!! You have something better to do tonight? A live Young Sheldon thread would be legendary

All new episode of Young Sheldon starting soon!! Only 6 episodes left!! Y’all want to do a live thread for it like we do on game day?

I think that the truth is somewhere in between. As an example of the Bills offer their 2025 1st and their own 2025 2nd teams probably expect picks at like 28 and 60 (or whatever). If the Bills trade their 2025 1st and the Vikings 2025 2nd teams probably expect the picks to be like picks 28 and pick 43.

My buddy just texted me back. He works in a ticket office in the NFL. He said that he was at a meeting in January where they said that the participating teams get 4K-5K tickets. One of the last times his team was in the Super Bowl they had 11k so that’s way down. As a non participating team they have been getting about 650 tickets. So that math would say that roughly 30k tickets go to the teams.

Super Bowl tickets have always been a lottery system. It was always based on seniority. My guess is it is a combination of seniority and spend but don’t know the exact formula. It’ll be weighted somehow but not sure exactly how. I don’t know if it’s common knowledge but each team gets a substantial allotment of Super Bowl tickets whether they are in the game or not. I don’t remember the specifics but pretty sure that it’s at least 1,000. I reached out to a friend to confirm that number and will update once he responds. If you do the math though & 30 teams not participating account for 30k tickets, the league & it’s sponsors must be another 5k-10k. That leaves roughly 20k per participating team. By the time you address the internal needs / sponsors they probably have 15k seats available for a lottery of season ticket holders.

I guess that I’m bullish on Samuel because I’ve seen so much of him. I saw every snap that he played at Ohio State. I’m a big fan of the player. He is still a converted RB, best with the ball in his hands. He isn’t a great route runner. He isn’t a pure deep guy. He’s a guy that will run some routes, catch screen, flares and get some carries. He’s a rich man’s McKenzie. If people are relying on his threat on the boundary to keep defenses honest, that’s not who he is.

If we are going to “look at things that are similar” why is the Watkins deal more relevant than Julio? The Falcons were 13-3 the previous year with a franchise QB. They made a similar move in terms of how far that they came up. That’s way closer to this situation.

Random things that didn’t work a decade ago, with different regimes, aren’t relevant. I promise you Sammy Watkins is not a part of the Bills decision making. There is no correlation. Julio is a better comparison and even that has no correlation. They will draft based on the quality of the players not a 2014 draft gamble. As @dave mcbride points out, the data and analytics today are light years beyond what they were even a decade ago. The draft bust rate would speak to that too. Teams hit at a much higher percentage in 2024 than they did even in 2014.

Yep The draft is an inexact science. Recent early WRs have been good (Chase, Wilson, Olave, Flowers, Addison, etc..). The top 3 guys in this draft have graded out as high or higher than any WR in the previous 2 drafts. There is no sure thing but not everyone has the same likelihood to succeed either.

Um, it’s a different world than 10 years ago. The Bills have a franchise QB. The cost for a high end WR is roughly double the cap space that it was a decade ago. There are LOTS of logical reasons to go way up. Sammy Watkins not working out 10 years ago isn’t even a data point that the Bills are considering when deciding what to do. There is no correlation between him not working out and the 2024 Bills draft. Julio Jones is a better example because the Falcons had a high end starter and wanted to get him a star. That’s infinitely more relevant to this conversation but still isn’t a factor in the Bills decision making process. Secondly, the college game changed the pro game not the other way around. NFL spread offenses designed to get the ball to playmakers in space are just copies of college offenses. Receivers translate easily and for those of us that watch a lot of college football, those guys are easily identifiable. Does someone really believe that the WR that the Bills draft will not be their number 1 immediately?? 😂😂 Is that for real? The Bills have a solid slot WR with good production on low volume. They have a gadget guy that is good with the ball in his hands. If we do not understand that the draft pick walks off the bus as the alpha in the WR room we do not understand the current WR room. I wonder how many people still get this reference?

With the 18th pick the Cincinnati Bengals select JC Latham, OL, Alabama. LA Rams @MrEpsYtown is on the clock. The Bengals targeted either an OL or Byron Murphy here. Once he was off the board, the Bengals shifted their focus to an elite offensive lineman. They are thrilled to get the guy that they have ranked as the draft’s top OL. He will start at OG as a rookie and transition to OT by year 2. He has all-pro upside at RT. We know the need to protect Joe Burrow and the value was too good to pass up.