Mister Defense

What is the betting line on the Bills reaching the playoffs? I want in! How about the line on them winning it all? (I want the last laugh!) My main reason for optimism is that Losman is sooooo much better than the national--or local--media are giving him credit for. He will be our quaterback for a decade if he stays healthy. And how nice is it NOT to have an old, worn out loserl like Bledsoe now, who looks oh so good against crap defenses--and ALWAYS falls apart against good one?

No, Saunders and Gibbs will not choose Campbell oaver Collins--Collins played for Saunders for four years-and is the better quarterback to boot. Can you imagine Saunders telling Collins he is bypassing him for Campbell? Won't happen.

He will get his chance this year. Brunell is looking old. Collins looks young: "Collins was 13-of-22 for 201 yards and a QB rating of 104.5 in his best showing with his new club. Collins hooked up with Steven Harris, the first-year player out of Arkansas, on a 54-yard completion." He has played in that offense for five years, under Saunders. It is logical. Gibbs will go with him by the third or fourth game of the season and stick with him.

how?

I know it goes against the CW, but I think their offensive line is underrated-a cohesive unit that is well coached, and they have three quality players at WR, RB, and QB. Losman looks good, will be good, better than Big Ben. Their defense is well coached with a good secondary, very good linebackers, and young, hungry, well coached lineman who will get better with each game. Great special teams--best punter in the league. Marv Levy is making all of the right moves, molding a yonger, hungrier, more disciplined and well coached team. 10-6

I know it goes against the CW, but I think their offensive line is underrated-a cohesive unit that is well coached, and they have three quality players at WR, RB, and QB. Losman looks good, will be good, better than Big Ben. Their defense is well coached with a good secondary, very good linebackers, and young, hungry, well coached lineman who will get better with each game. Great special teams--best punter in the league. Marv Levy is making all of the right moves, molding a yonger, hungrier, more disciplined and well coached team. 10-6

Come on. After ten years of production and leadership, you discount him for one incident. Pretty high standard, I' d say, and not reasonable

Levy wants to keep Moulds because he has a very young offense in every area--line, backfield, wide receivers, and tight ends. Moulds has been an excellent leader on this team and that is needed now. Some seem to discount his leadership because of one negative incident, albeit after 10 years of high quality play and leadership. And he is still very good. But Moulds better take a big pay cut. He would not command half as much in this league as he is now scheduled to make, not at 33 and not with less than 900 yards. Levy needs lineman. Moulds is wanted, but expendable. Moulds staying is best for both sides: his best opportunity to end his career with production and dignity and the Bills best option for a second receiver, when his leadership is factored in. Levy knows what he wants and is converting the Bills into a cleaner, younger, better team. Good; just what this team needed.

But the flaw in all of the Mcgahee 'supporters' '' logic is still obvious: They want to replace what has has been an outstanding player on this team, our BEST player during the last two years, with a player who has had ONE hundred yard game (against a team that had given up multiple one hundred yard games already this year). Henry, if you recall, had a slow start last year as well--and then was GREAT, dominant. It is the Rob Johnson logic--basing your conclusions on virtually nothing but smoke and mirrors. McGahee has proven NOTHING. Henry has been one of the best backs in the league for the last two years. Period. Does this mean that I don't believe that McGahee can't become a great back? No, of course not. But he has not even proven himself to be an NFL starter yet. Rob Johnson logic: and the reason this team fell out of contention. No way should we accept this again.

It was one of his worst moves, shows the same kind of decision making that got him fired in Pittsgurgh and will get him fired here, probably at the end of the season. He got rid one of our best players, in reality the second best player on our team at the time. Traded him away. Our team was a shell itself in large part because of that stupid move. Price was worth the money. And you say it is a good move because............? Of Travis McGahee???? Shocking. The Rob Johnson logic. (Hey, maybe we should extend his contract and offer him huge bonus, too? Let's keep it going, let's dig another hole this team will take years to climb out of.) (And I think McGahee can become an excellent back--but we have NOTHING to back up that contention yet...)

Here, look just as impressive small and black: 2002: 325 rushes, 1438 yards, 4.4 ypc, and 13 touchdowns 2003: 15 games, 331 carries 1356 yards, 4.1 ypc, and 10 touchdowns But this deserves to be shouted form the rooftop, so: People want to trade our most valuable player!!!!! And replace him with a completely unproven player!!!!!!!!!! Can you say, 2-14, 1-15? That logic will get us there only. (And MDH, aint nothing in your post to back yourself up--except an immature attack. I'd rather have logic and support in finger paints than none at all. None.)

For KD and FREZ Henry's stats the last two years: 2002: 325 rushes, 1438 yards, 4.4 ypc, and 13 touchdowns 2003: 15 games, 331 carries 1356 yards, 4.1 ypc, and 10 touchdowns Yes, one of the best in the league and statistically too. GROSSLY ILLOGICAL for people to say Henry should be traded, that McGahee should be start, and that McGahee is the better back: Henry has had almost 2800 yards in the last two years and 23 touchdowns. Not illogical to say he is one of the top five backs in the league. I think he'll be an MVP in this league. More than illogical, irresponsible suggestions really: (I hope none of those calling for such illogical moves runs a business!!!)

Just reading over some of these threads, I was wondering if the majority of people on here really believe that it is a good move to hand over the starting job to McGahee, and that Henry should be on his way out? Surely, MOST people on this board cannot be that illogical. Please, give me some faith in BILLS FANS! Travis Henry has been an extraordainry NFL back the last two years, our best player during that period, and is one of the top five backs in this league. And people think we should replace him with a player who has proven....what??? Absolutely nothing and is coming off a HUGE injury. If it's true, that most people on this board believe this, what illogical people! Probably the same people who thought it was a good idea to hand Rob Johnson Millions (and the Jaguars our pick(s)) because of his two good starts. ( I said at the time it was the most illogical move in the history of this franchise. This move is right up there.) In any case, this is the same misguided, illlogical reasoning that allowed that move, which in my mind, was the beginning of a major decline. PLEASE, say it aint so! Please say that only a tiny minority are this uninformed..................................................