Just my worthless $0.02.
For a while now, I have been trying to push for reasonable, intelligent discussion. Everytime I bring it up, I get shouted down, laughed at, etc. Personally, I am sick of the bullstevestojan on this board. Posters like LBG, Tenny, RiO, and Captain America/Boomer make it impossible to discuss things. When you do try to bring stuff up when they are not here, you are still stuck with people who do nothing more than cut-and-paste from campaign websites (Bush and Kerry), which also makes it impossible to discuss things intelligently. The "yeah, but Bush..." responses are ridiculous, and immediately ruin the thread. If we are talking about Kerry, stick with the issue at hand. If we are talking about Bush, stick with the issue at hand.
As I said, I am tired of the bullstevestojan, so I am going on the offensive. You bring crap to the board, I will throw it back in your face. I am tired of it, and I am not going to take it anymore.
Again, my worthless $0.02.