JoeF

Part of running a business is analyzing the market for your key talent and then keeping that key talent happy with both the operating environment and their comp package. We're talking 11% -- the difference between 9 and 10 Million and the difference between 54 and 60 million over 6 years. One playoff game makes up the entire pot of revenue. I hope you never run a franchise or a business--you will lag behind because you let difference makers go. Again, his peers think he is the best in the business...you can debate whether that's valid all day long--but it is what it is.

Obviously with 70+ posts on this thread there is a lot to think about. Stroud's extension is pretty neutral to the cap -- Clumpy is our expert here -- but its basically a 4 year deal for $28 M with $12 M upfront and $16M for the first 2 years. Meaning that the salaries are probably $1 and $3 M in year one and two and the pro-rated bonus is $3M per year. His cap figure for 09 is basically the same $4M he was scheduled to make in base this year. So I don't think signing Stroud has much impact on the Peters situation. The bottom line for me--Good to great left tackles make $8-11M dollars a year. There is no denying that our guy has made the pro bowl the last two years. He has all the skills you look for in an LT--quick into his pass blocking stance, wide base, good punch and in the run game he has great initial surge and the ability to get to the second level. He is special--but the holdout killed his timing last year--he didn't roll himself into football mentality until about week 7 and then got injured. He is worth somewhere in the good to great range. Continuity is worth something--so the difference between $9 M and $10M a year is basically paying for continuity. We don't want to go into the season replacing 60% of our line...40% is bad enough. If it comes down to $1M year -- just pay him the damn money. Someone else will if we don't.

Damn.....knew I hit the wrong key..... Russ

Tim-- I just IM'd you the trade parameters we have in place with the Patriots for Moss. Did you get them? Russ

Dear Vince, I have admired your approach to the game for several years. What do you do to keep your edge and your sense of fair play? Signed, Bernard Madoff

Man--that is cold Cookie...wow..... Only if you want to be a human hood ornament

We just couldn't totally part ways with JP...we have to get his twin brother. So if all these rumors are true---by the draft we will have: Scheffler Vick Cutler Kendall Simmons LeCharles Bentley 2 first rounders 2010 A third to replace the third we give up for Scheffler Plaxico Burress Derrick Brooks Freddie Keahio An extra first rounder for 2010 All for giving up Peters.....I do that trade deep within every day of the week....Can you say Herschel Walker (the football player personality not the Apprentice personality). Wooooooohoooooo Championship...

Coach Ray Brown. Suit 'em up big fella! He is the best option on the team right now. He's only 46 -- a spring chicken--go get 'em Ray.

Peter King with a secret pen camera....if he gets caught and eliminated Starbuck's stock will take another hit. Mission Improbable....

This from a guy who couldn't be more of a product endorsement whore. If he could talk he would get more speaking parts like Manning but Brady just has the look and the rings. If they keep this up, they might just miss out on the Enzyte or Cialas endorsements -- I am sure Tommy needs both...

Dean is really Cookie Gilchrist

See ya Duke....He is Green Bay's marquee free agent signing...don't anyone complain about our Free Agent season... http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/26/...n-duke-preston/

The great hair wave (Kiper) talked about Raji as a potential #1 overall this weekend on ESPN radio..

this is all sofa king we tarred it

Yeah but not max value--he will be 30+....He is better off getting $20M or so upfront on a 6 year deal now. His agent is dinking him badly if he doesn't get a deal done. The parameters are in place each side give a little. Its $18 Million apart over 6 years. Bills want to pay about $51M, Peters wants about $69M. Meet at $62 and we are done. There is middle ground here. Go a bit above Jordan Gross with incentives and escalators -- do 6 years $62M with $20M upfront -- back end load a couple of $10M base salary years the last 2 years and average about $5-6M base a year the first 4 years...this is easily doable and fits in the cap. He is a gifted player--at a hard to find position. Put someone who he can depend on next to him and we have a line and Trent has time to reach all these weapons.

I don't get the sense of urgency to get a deal done here. Does everyone understand that the uncapped year actually limits player movement in free agency. It gives the "owning" team even more options to keep the player off the market. Read this article from Pat Kirwin for illumination: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true Peters has little negotiating leverage other than his play. He is great--but those of you who claim there is little meet in the middle are listening too much to the agent and not the reality I think. He is a tremendous player--one we should hold onto--but the uncapped year I think may help in this quest.

Who will the Bills sign next? I say Freddy Keiaho...it fills a need and we move to the next one....

The only thing he has to prove to me is if he can come back from injury. I have never had a doubt about 94's effort or wanting to win. The guy made himself into a pro bowler by working his ass off.

My goodness....guess she wanted a piece of Geno....

Awesome.

Come on...admit it. Even if you think this is a dumb ass move...you have Bills gear on right now and have a bit more of swagger today than yesterday. I do/am--- I love drama--the Bills are relevant again.

TO = Hardy's mentor.....ohhhhh myyyy GODDDDDD

One year $6.5 Million--we still have lots and lots of room to get better...wow--this is from the leftest of left fields..

Yep--too much

$28M for 4 years per rotoworld http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...=NFL&id=109 Bengals agreed to terms with WR Laveranues Coles, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter. The deal will pay $28 million over four years.