What a Tuel

Through being told that this country is racist. Even though it isn't. Racism is the default answer during altercations between two people. It shouldn't be. If a white person gets into a fight with a black person, people wonder if there were racial motivations. If a white person gets into a fight with a white person people wonder who did what to piss the other one off.

This pretty much sums it up. Except you are racist if you say bad things about BLM. At that point your opinion is some form of hate and is unacceptable in America.

Pretty sure these people believe they could be a victim of the police as much as any other black person because of their skin color. Its utter BS. A grand jury was convened and no charges were pressed. Regardless, this isn't the norm. If it is bring your stats to back the claim up. Hundreds of millions of encounters a year, less than 1,000 police shootings. 730 of which were in the commission of an attack in progress. Seek justice for your individual cases, but BLM is built on a great big lie, and the media refuses to tell the truth because it is a cash cow. 29 pages in over a day. Imagine what speculation about an unjustified shooting does to ratings.

Condemn our history in what was admittedly poor judgement in the ideas of the founding fathers is what I meant. There is no harm in admitting one was wrong, but one must more forward at some point. All countries have made poor decisions in the past. The fact that people think this country was only founded on the backs of slaves (mentioned by another poster) and the white folk just kicked back and relaxed is hilarious though. Yes some white folk did. Most didn't. This country was built on the backs of all of it's citizens and continues to be. BLM is the one doing this type stuff: http://www.kwch.com/content/news/National-Black-Lives-Matter-organization-says-it-does-not-support-First-Step-Barbecue-387989542.html So yes, people are going to criticize them. The fact that you can't criticize a social movement because they cause more hate and divisiveness without being called a racist is part of the problem. BLM is like those bad charities you hear about that do nothing to serve their cause. You don't see criticism of those other movements because they are actually doing something. BLM has nothing on them or to do with them.

My bad if I didn't understand the posters general point, but this notion that American's are unique in the fact that slavery was legal is off putting. (I know you didn't exactly say this) Yes we should condemn ourselves, and do our best to ensure equality but at some point you have to leave history to be history. This country has evolved based on those very principles, and have used the founding as a guideline for such adjustments.

Slavery is something that existed long before the United States and still exists in some countries to date. While most people abhor it, the level American's hold ourselves to the wrongness of it is indicative of our culture. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ By the way there are currently 60,000 underground slaves in the US (2013). But let's worry about the "epidemic" of unjustified police shootings per year that usually go to a trial. And by epidemic, I mean out of the 990 police shootings in the US last year, 730 were during an attack in progress. That leaves 260 cases that may or may not have been justified across all races. Out of hundreds of millions of encounters. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ The BLM movement is so backwards it isn't even funny. It is railing against an establishment that can't defend itself because through the hundreds of millions of police encounters each year, there are bound to be a few that go bad. And each one is picked up by the media and picked apart for hours and dissected and fed to the masses as some type of problem because it is good ratings. It makes me sick.

I went with 1 in one league and 6 in another! Thanks guys! Definitely going with Antonio Brown #1

The grievances are fine. I have no problem with holding people accountable. However this isn't the epidemic the media or they are portraying.

I am too. I was cheering for one of our guys to body slam them for a few tackles after they did it to Williams since it obviously isn't worthy of a penalty. Wrestling style tackling! NFL Blitz!

Wait a minute. I haven't read the thread, but I thought the same thing at first when I saw this last night, and then realized he was talking about the question "Did you pull them because they got hit?" Rex then said "No, you were in the same meetings I was where I said they would play two series, it would have been pretty stupid to play them if (I only played them because) I didn't think they would get hit." Anyone have the clip?

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And we are freely expressing our opinions that he's an idiot being manipulated by a movement based on lies, and misconceptions.

He's an idiot. The whole movement is a bunch of idiots who don't quite understand what they are complaining about because the media has the "epidemic" so skewed to accrue ratings that people are being blatantly mislead to stir up anger, division, and hate.

It had to be because he came in contact with his head. Even brushing it. Isn't that automatic PF for the QB these days? As for the wrap up tackle, I don't see how it could have been any cleaner. You could tell every bit of him was going for the clean wrap up tackle. That said, the redskins are a dirty team. I don't like them. Weren't they in the news for playing dirty against the Panthers last year too? I am glad we don't have to play them.

Honestly all I hear from people is how EJ actually looked decent (in a backup sense) and I come to TBD and see a topic and think oh TBD is giving EJ some props, nope it's a "he's awful" thread. SMH.

Hmmm Why do you say this?!

So I drew first in the order of picking for the draft. That means I have a choice for spots 1-12 in the draft. I am leaning towards #1 just to secure Antonio Brown. The middle sounds gross to me. The later picks 10-12 sound good, but the fear is that the people ahead of me will actually draft decently. What do you guys think?

The problem I have with the people who say we need to clean house is that they are living on the dream that anyone that is brought in will do better than a 16 year drought. That it can't be worse than it is now. That is not true in the slightest. Nothing against the Pegula's or whoever would hire a whole new regime, but there is absolutely no guarantee of success, and it can get worse. It's not so easy as saying "ok wipe the slate, let's build a winning football program". It's living on the promise of the unknown.

Hmmm I understand the rule, but this should be an exception. Valuable insight in every post.

That really bugs me. Everywhere else they stress possession and "football moves" but in this one, welp it grazed the player, blow it dead! Why? So dumb. As for the catch, well in my opinion it breaks down to this: A WR can catch a ball clean take as little as two steps in the endzone and go out of bounds without making any football move. That's a TD. The defender was not contesting the ball enough to consider the ball bobbling or moving, so I would argue it is a clean catch. So why isn't this stopped at this point? If all the WR needs is those two steps and a clean catch, then why are we talking about football moves? Because he dropped it? Ok why did he drop it? Well he dropped it because while he was rolling over out of bounds the defender knocked it out. Why is this relevant? His knees were down, he had full control of the ball all the way prior, this knocking the ball out of his hands at the end is absurd. He had complete control of the ball all the way up to that point where in any other part of the field, he would be considered down by contact. Can we get a GIF of that part? I think you guys will see what I am getting at.

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/187274-tbd-espn-fantasy-football-league/ Someone else is doing a league also, but it doesn't seem like they have enough people. Maybe combine if either of you have a few people.

I thought a "move" was taking steps as well? I have seen catches in the field be ruled completions because the WR took several steps. What happens after that is normally a fumble. The officials don't take steps into consideration because it's the endzone? If so, they are a bunch of idiots.

I looked at it the other way (bills being screwed out of a td when it matters), but thanks you made the possibilities worse!

I think the only way you go here is top WR, especially if your league is PPR. OBJ or Julio. I don't think many of the RB's would be worth having, and missing out on all the talent until pick #23. Although looking at ADP, I might want Gurley and Alshon Jeffery over OBJ and McCoy

But now questionable is going to be loaded with all of the probables....