What a Tuel

Slavery is something that existed long before the United States and still exists in some countries to date. While most people abhor it, the level American's hold ourselves to the wrongness of it is indicative of our culture. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ By the way there are currently 60,000 underground slaves in the US (2013). But let's worry about the "epidemic" of unjustified police shootings per year that usually go to a trial. And by epidemic, I mean out of the 990 police shootings in the US last year, 730 were during an attack in progress. That leaves 260 cases that may or may not have been justified across all races. Out of hundreds of millions of encounters. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/ The BLM movement is so backwards it isn't even funny. It is railing against an establishment that can't defend itself because through the hundreds of millions of police encounters each year, there are bound to be a few that go bad. And each one is picked up by the media and picked apart for hours and dissected and fed to the masses as some type of problem because it is good ratings. It makes me sick.

I went with 1 in one league and 6 in another! Thanks guys! Definitely going with Antonio Brown #1

The grievances are fine. I have no problem with holding people accountable. However this isn't the epidemic the media or they are portraying.

I am too. I was cheering for one of our guys to body slam them for a few tackles after they did it to Williams since it obviously isn't worthy of a penalty. Wrestling style tackling! NFL Blitz!

Wait a minute. I haven't read the thread, but I thought the same thing at first when I saw this last night, and then realized he was talking about the question "Did you pull them because they got hit?" Rex then said "No, you were in the same meetings I was where I said they would play two series, it would have been pretty stupid to play them if (I only played them because) I didn't think they would get hit." Anyone have the clip?

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And we are freely expressing our opinions that he's an idiot being manipulated by a movement based on lies, and misconceptions.

He's an idiot. The whole movement is a bunch of idiots who don't quite understand what they are complaining about because the media has the "epidemic" so skewed to accrue ratings that people are being blatantly mislead to stir up anger, division, and hate.

It had to be because he came in contact with his head. Even brushing it. Isn't that automatic PF for the QB these days? As for the wrap up tackle, I don't see how it could have been any cleaner. You could tell every bit of him was going for the clean wrap up tackle. That said, the redskins are a dirty team. I don't like them. Weren't they in the news for playing dirty against the Panthers last year too? I am glad we don't have to play them.

Honestly all I hear from people is how EJ actually looked decent (in a backup sense) and I come to TBD and see a topic and think oh TBD is giving EJ some props, nope it's a "he's awful" thread. SMH.

Hmmm Why do you say this?!

So I drew first in the order of picking for the draft. That means I have a choice for spots 1-12 in the draft. I am leaning towards #1 just to secure Antonio Brown. The middle sounds gross to me. The later picks 10-12 sound good, but the fear is that the people ahead of me will actually draft decently. What do you guys think?

The problem I have with the people who say we need to clean house is that they are living on the dream that anyone that is brought in will do better than a 16 year drought. That it can't be worse than it is now. That is not true in the slightest. Nothing against the Pegula's or whoever would hire a whole new regime, but there is absolutely no guarantee of success, and it can get worse. It's not so easy as saying "ok wipe the slate, let's build a winning football program". It's living on the promise of the unknown.

Hmmm I understand the rule, but this should be an exception. Valuable insight in every post.

That really bugs me. Everywhere else they stress possession and "football moves" but in this one, welp it grazed the player, blow it dead! Why? So dumb. As for the catch, well in my opinion it breaks down to this: A WR can catch a ball clean take as little as two steps in the endzone and go out of bounds without making any football move. That's a TD. The defender was not contesting the ball enough to consider the ball bobbling or moving, so I would argue it is a clean catch. So why isn't this stopped at this point? If all the WR needs is those two steps and a clean catch, then why are we talking about football moves? Because he dropped it? Ok why did he drop it? Well he dropped it because while he was rolling over out of bounds the defender knocked it out. Why is this relevant? His knees were down, he had full control of the ball all the way prior, this knocking the ball out of his hands at the end is absurd. He had complete control of the ball all the way up to that point where in any other part of the field, he would be considered down by contact. Can we get a GIF of that part? I think you guys will see what I am getting at.

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/187274-tbd-espn-fantasy-football-league/ Someone else is doing a league also, but it doesn't seem like they have enough people. Maybe combine if either of you have a few people.

I thought a "move" was taking steps as well? I have seen catches in the field be ruled completions because the WR took several steps. What happens after that is normally a fumble. The officials don't take steps into consideration because it's the endzone? If so, they are a bunch of idiots.

I looked at it the other way (bills being screwed out of a td when it matters), but thanks you made the possibilities worse!

I think the only way you go here is top WR, especially if your league is PPR. OBJ or Julio. I don't think many of the RB's would be worth having, and missing out on all the talent until pick #23. Although looking at ADP, I might want Gurley and Alshon Jeffery over OBJ and McCoy

But now questionable is going to be loaded with all of the probables....

Hmmm, it's tough for me to say he didn't have possession of the ball. That plus the 3 steps while holding on to it is enough for a TD in my eyes regardless of what happens afterwards. But I'll wait for someone to come up with a shot of it to see it again. Edit: Now that I think of it, that is two different scenarios. Did they rule it incomplete because it popped out at the end? Or because he didn't have possession and 2 feet in the end zone? For the ball to be popping out at the end to be relevant, they would need to concede that he had control and two feet down in the end zone. If that's the case then it was easily a catch imo.

Not sure it was mentioned but we went for 2 for the win as not to land in overtime. In the regular season we would've went for the extra point and overtime. Could be a different outcome. Not to mention we lost in the second half when all of our starters (and theirs) were out... Q1 IND 0 BUF 9 Q2 IND 9 BUF 0 Q3 IND 0 BUF 3 Q4 IND 10 BUF 6 Final IND 19 BUF 18 That said, I take no game for granted and Baltimore will be a hard fought away game for us and home opener for them.

Do you have a link to a video? I have been itching to see it. To me and the various instant replays it looked like he had control of the ball when he caught it. No bobbling other than re-positioning the ball to tuck it away.

Out for season? I thought it was 10 games?

Come on, if that is the correct call on that TD pass then the NFL doesn't know what a completed pass is. The guy took 3-4 steps in bounds with the ball securely in his arms, and then a few more out of bounds as he was falling, rolls over out of bounds, and the ball comes out. If he was bobbling it, I could see their point. But he wasn't bobbling it at all for those 3-4 steps in bounds. Wish I could find a GIF of it.