What a Tuel

Meh, New England can't even beat a winning team. And then they lost to the Bills. Awful. Cardinals (3-4-1) Dolphins (3-4) Texans (4-4) Browns (0-8) Bengals (3-4-1) Pittsburgh (4-3)* Bills (4-4) *Without their starting QB so it doesn't count. Patriots opponents combined records are 21-31-2. Just bad. Not sustainable.

We've got to remember guys, these are the people who bashed him for taking 30 seconds out of his walk to the podium for a press conference to joke around with Edelman. If they balked at that, then their heads are exploding at this.

Am I bad for not wanting Cleveland to win another sport championship?

True. It would be nice if we were and it went like this though: 0-2 4-0 0-2 4-0 0-2 2-0

This is a win/win argument for you. We win and "it was just against the Browns". We lose, and "told you so" @ Sea Win @ Cin Win vs. Jax Win @ Oak Loss vs. Pit Loss vs. Cle Win vs. Mia Win @ Jets Win 10-6

I for one was happy to see it there. I enjoy discussing the season and playoff implications. Don't let them get to you. I visit other teams boards frequently just to see what they are saying about their players and their teams, and a lot of them feel empty and lack posters who try to spark discussion on a variety of different subjects like you and several others do. It makes this a better and more lively place and one of the better sports forums I've seen.

Some interesting games this week: We probably want the Jets to beat the Dolphins. We want the Jaguars to beat the Chiefs (unlikely but would be nice) We want the Steelers to beat the Ravens (the steelers running away with that division would be best, they play Baltimore 2x and Cinci 1x in the next 9 games.) We want the Packers to beat the Colts (Just to be safe) These last two are tough Do we want the Chargers to beat the Titans? Do we want Oakland to beat the Broncos?

This sounds magnificent! This would be a haven for those people who relish in the bills failure because at least they were right and weren't foolish enough to - you know - root for their team.

Is this your hope? You seem overtly excited about making sure we know this so we can share in your joy. I mean you don't have any evidence outside of your flip of a coin guess so it has to be that right? Meanwhile, they have 3 weeks til he can come off IR, and I am sure they are waiting to see how the season looks at that point before deciding when and if he comes back.

They didn't call him up to back up Le'Veon Bell when DeAngelo Williams was injured so that might say something. Instead keeping on Fitzgerald Toussaint as 2nd RB.

Seeing him start to point fingers on blown coverage. No idea who's fault it really is, but that's not a good sign.

Yeah, I think it certainly depends what our record is after the Jaguars game. If we are 4-7 or 5-6 he will probably rest him the rest of the year. If we are 7-4 or 6-5, we might consider bringing him back for the 5 game playoff push.

I'm happy to have him back considering our desperation at WR, but him bordering on retiring and not going to London last year really hurt the season I think. If he played that game, I think we win, and go into the bye week 4-3 instead of 3-4. Beat the Jets and Dolphins like we did and we are 6-3 going up against the Patriots.

Come on people. Watch the clip. He wasn't running. The guy almost took his knee out. Either there is or there isn't protection for the QB. Bottom line.

Haha, it's almost like there were other failure QB's in those years that everyone forgets about. For every Dalton, and Carr there are a bunch of Gabbert, Tannehill, Osweiler, Weeden's. The Dak Prescott stuff amuses me because didn't Jerry Jones have his sights dead set on Paxton Lynch? And he lucks out with Prescott?

You got my hopes up, I wasn't talking about that one. Funny stuff though if it really said Tom Brady's dildo. My nephew's comment was that Brady lost his mouthpiece! Funniest reprimanding my brother has ever had to deal with.

He is speaking out of his own experience. Maybe other QB's like Roethlisberger will say the same. Maybe they won't be as outspoken. Maybe he feels he is being targeted because no one else is coming out and complaining about the same thing? Either way, if the rules were applied evenly, then it would solve the problem. I'm not sure why Tyrod didn't get his unnecessary roughness penalty 5 yards out of bounds either. Thought he got injured on that play too.

I think certain teams get that too. There was a play yesterday in which we got called for some tick tack defensive holding penalty that you could hardly see evidence of, and during the replay in the background we see Hogan with a huge push off to try and make the catch. Nothing to see there. I'll never find the play without gamepass, but it was comical. It was on the dropped pass by Hogan in the endzone.

Love that clip. He is a runner though. It's either a penalty or not in the pocket. Brady would have gotten a roughing the passer call on my clip.

Found it. http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Cam-Newton-gets-hit-dangerously-low/c0815a82-36ba-40e4-a436-db03e8732acb

The biggest one I think Cam is complaining about is when he was standing in the pocket and got taken out in the knees. I'll try and find the clip.

The refs must be though. With Brady, the commentators are analyzing why the flag was thrown with "well he brushed Brady's helmet, and there is absolutely no head contact" or "He sacked Brady, and despite being in the waist region, he slid down to his knees, so I guess the flag is justified" With Cam/Taylor or a few others its always an expectation of a flag that never comes.

Who are they paying then?

I'm fairly certain Tom Brady takes less money too, so he frees up cap money in that manner as well.

Why the heck would they do that? He is a free agent next year. They are winless. Edit: On another note, Collins has got to be pissed. Go from a 7-1 team to a 0-8 team.