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This is a silly thread. They are never trading Eli.
I don't mind threads where we could actually trade for someone, but it's like asking should we trade for Aaron Rodgers? That will happen half past never.
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Troy Vincent from the NFL reported the other day the play was carefully reviewed on reply, and it is a legal hit, with absolutely no potential for unnecessary roughness.
Guys, (Let's say it's Cam Newton or Big Ben) if he's running to the play, and tackled the guy with the INT, then the QB could stop a pick 6. Marino back in his day would run off the field as he understood the injury risk, and would avoid those plays. He also knew defenders would blow him up. I can see a guy like Kelly going after the DB.
Like it or not, you throw a pick and now you are playing defense, you can get hit as hard as a lineman or other wants to hit you as long as it's to the side or front, in the numbers so not high or low. That's football.
There is absolutely nothing against the rules. Brady's not stupid enough to play defender as he knows someone would go out and kill him legally. You never see Manning running to the play either. Foles needs to learn he is more valuable for the next offensive series, just like EJ is learning it is better to get one less yard and not get your knee blown out again. That's why that other thread was assonine the other day that he is a wimp. No, he's trying to stay alive to finish the game.
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Bill - nice thread. I was thinking the same thing. Their run defense is avg at best. Definitely more Fred than CJ on pass plays as he can chip better, or something creative would be a heavier dose of Dixon on pass plays. That dude is a load, and between him and a lineman, they should be able to slow down Watt.
If we're going designed run on a read option, then Spiller there with a couple of chances running with EJ, but please slide early. No injuries. I know if we win we're 3-1 and even if we lost to the Lions who look hot, we still walk into the Pats game at home both 3-2 (I'm assuming with the sloppy play of the Pats so far and the way the Bengals are playing, the Bengals should win that one). That's two 3-2 teams in Buffalo and we'll see. The second quarter could be 2-2 with losses to the Lions and Pats, and wins against KC and the Browns.
It could also be 3-1 with beating the Pats with us 6-2, and then a handful of very winnable games. I wrote off the last quarter to 1-3 before the season, but the Packers don't look nearly as impressive as years past.
Guys this week matters as we could actually go 10-6 if we see the Bills of the first two weeks. Can you believe it? I'm not predicting it, I just see it as possible.
Please God let this be the year! I have three children with two boys who are football nuts and excellent athletes. They have never seen (my oldest 15) a playoff or even winning Buffalo Bills team. They've seen so many videos of the comeback, and so on, but they've never watched our team as a real threat or contender. Let this be the year.
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Our defense is 6th against the run and 8th in points allowed.
Their only knock that they are giving up passing yards but they are preventing teams from scoring so I'll live with it.
Well said. It could have been worse last week, and there are communication problems in the secondary. Graham is our best cover corner and needs to take out any other team's #1 WR. The only exception is Megatron. That's going to take Graham and McKelvin covering him all game. They should bracket him at the line of scrimmage like they did to Gonzalez for the Falcons two years ago. It was the only way to slow down a beast like that. Robey will have to play well for that game as he and Gilmore will need to cover Tate and Ebron.
I love how we've kept the points off the board. We also can make our defense look a lot better by winning the time of possession battle with a lot of running.
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The NFL is showing today Rockinon? Just kidding bud.
I voted for Orton based on watching him play well with much less talented teams. Now that he's had enough time, and if EJ plays terribly tomorrow, I say switch. I know the whole let EJ develop thing, but if we want to make the playoffs this year with a winnable schedule, then EJ has to win games like tomorrow. Houston beat crappy teams. The Giants beat them and they have looked terrible this year, they beat Oakland and KC?
If he plays solid with some nice read option plays, can get the ball downfield, with no turnovers, then keep playing EJ.
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He doesn't need to make many plays. He needs to be covered down the field with help over the top. His skill set adds value. He helps open up the underneath stuff and aids in the running game. Nobody is signing TJ Graham to catch 100 balls. He will end up on a roster that lacks a speed guy to fill that void.
I have argued on this board (with little success) that he would help this team more than CH (especially with today's rules). If he made 6 plays this year down the field (4 catches and 2 PI penalties) he would be infinitely better IMO. If he could add 40+ yards once every 2.5 games that is a bigger contribution.
i respectfully disagree. There is no threat when the WR can't do what he is paid to do, Catch the Ball. By having him out there we are playing with 10 players on the field vs. 11. He cost us games in the past.
I'm so glad he is gone. We have speed in Goodwin.
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I like a lot of what Nix did to get some improved talent on this team, but this was his miss. After year three, we should have been jumping to pay Levitre in the $5 mil neighborhood. No, we waited until the end, and the Titans overpaid for him. It was a whiff. Our Guards are not playing well, but i disagree henderson gets all of this help. He has done a good job for a rookie.
I too do not like Williams. Hopefully Richardson can come in and make an impact. My guess is with Watt on the other side, Marrone may stick with Urbick and Pears as guards this week given their experience. The other d-Lineman are not that great on Houston's part and have been suspect against the run.
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Yes and no. In the Sapp case, the player getting hit was far away from the play. In this one, Foles was wandering generally in the direction of the INT returner, thus making him part of the play. A hard hit, yes, but this one looks legal to me.
It was ruled a legal hit. If the QB doesn't want to get hit, don't run towards the play. He hit him in the numbers and not with his helmet. Foles should have pulled a Marino and ran to the sidelines if he doesn't want to get hit.
Although, I didn't see any interview where Foles was complaining about the hit. He was tough and took it. Are you telling me if Fitzpicktrick throws one this week (we hope), and then runs towards the play to tackle the DB who intercepts is fair game. Wouldn't you like to see Spikes lay a legal in the numbers hit to him. I would.
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The dude asked for it taunting his employer. If I taunted my Area VP, you can bet I would get suspended, or terminated. He's an idiot for trying to boost his ratings.
As far as Goodell, I like what one of the previous posts (why so serious) mentioned that it is not Goodell's job to cure all of the social ills of the world. I do like the idea of much more stern punishment for these players who get in this much trouble with the law. Again, if I as a regional manager was accused of child abuse, sexual assault, domestic abuse, and so on would be terminated from my employment.
Like it or not, corporate America does not want to manage the risk that I could do something wrong in the workplace. This is common sense. I'm glad they have raised the threshold for substance abuse, as that is a law enforcement issue. PED's are different as they help the person's play. I could care less if the guy is not driving if someone is doing bong hits.
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Love JJ, wish he was on our team.
Agreed BB, but you can't have them all.
He's going to be tough to defend. Look for a lot of 12 personnel this week, and more FREDEX than CJ on passing plays. If I were a fantasy guy, I'd start Fred. He'll chip block and will be the hot route when they blitz. The key will be can we stretch the field and I don't mean 20+ yard throws, just over 10-15 yards.
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He'll be fine this week. The guy is one of the most talented LT in football in the last couple of years.
I worry we make the typical dumb butt mistake and don't lock him up early after this year and state we wouldn't over pay, when we have a stud at LT.
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It was one game against this year probably one of the best offenses in football. San Diego between last year and this year has beat the Seahawks, Broncos, Bengals, Colts, Eagles, and Chiefs (when they were 11-5).
Pettine had us gashed against the run. Yes, we did not play the pass well last week. We've dramatically improved against the run. I don't know why Mckelvin wasn't placed as the third CB and had Graham starting outside opposite Gilmore. I suspect the injuries to McKelvin and Gilmore are still nagging those two.
I was frustrated with not blitzing Rivers, but he probably would have picked it up and checked down. In the second half we did improve. The problem wasn't Schwartz, it was a pathetic offense. We were so bad last week, it was hard to watch. I'm optimistic we bounce back this week against the Texans. They've beaten bad teams, and lost to the Giants who everyone thought was in for a rough season. They are beatable, Clowney is out, we don't know on Foster, and Fitzy was good for three picks last week.
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I agree. Chan made the most out of average to below average talent. He played the s
Read as he knew he had an explosive RB who could bounce well off tackle, another who could run north/south, a line who could not hold up well for long so get the ball out fast, and lastly a smart QB who could not throw accurately beyond 10 yards.
He probably could improve this team's performance, but it's never going to happen. I'm not sure what he's doing, but hopefully he's coaching somewhere probably in college.
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Well, we'll find out on Orton. Same as everyone. Love the character, but desperate for a winner, and he was not going to improve. Gailey made the most of him.
My hope is if we have another anemic offense against a weak team in Houston, we make the change and don't bleed this out forever. If Orton sucks, we can always go back to EJ. Orton had now a month to learn the offense and another week should be enough if he wanted to get a shot to start.
When EJ loses to SD, ok, but not Houston.
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I cant believe the Texans are 3.5 point favorites in this game
that's only because they are at home,we had a bad game, and no one starts picking us unless we repeat the Bears win a number of times. Don't worry about it.
The good news is Foster is out, we've improved our run defense, and Fitzpicktrick is not Rivers. Our defense should handle him, and we need to make sure to have Graham as the second CB, not the third.
Hopefully Schwartz draws up more pressure at times and our CB's play press so Fitz has to throw down field. Take away his short yardage passes and we'll win. Detroit will be much tougher.
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I appreciate it. I'm feeling very vulnerable today.
Dude, do you need a hug?
Just kidding. I'm sure BB was just joking.
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I can't believe this turned into a race issue. I thought TB was costic (relax- TB I'm kidding as a fellow Tampa Bills fan, but you have to tone down the choice of words - FWIW - I believe your right).
The whole race issue is moot. I think there were a ton of people comparing EJ to Russel Wilson who so many wanted to draft. If this board is so prejudice, why do so many people keep clamoring over Wilson? Kelly was not loved because he was white. He was and is loved because he was a phenomenal QB who never gets the credit he deserves compared to Montana, Marino, Elway, Young and so on. He was special on the field back then, and now as a leader in the community now.
I believe the DB for Denver might have a point. Everyone talks about Luck who is amazing, but we might be watching the development of a HOF QB in Wilson. How many people would have given up their apendex for Cam Newton as our starting QB. I'm not an RG fan, and have never been, but it has nothing to do with his race. It has to do with cousins performance last week. He follows his reads better, makes better decisions, and so on.
So let's put the race stuff to bed as I know these guys, and I am the absolute furthest from racism, and don't believe these guys are making their decisions based on the color of his skin.
Now EJ can show everyone he is deserving of the starting position by showing up against Houston, Detroit, and NE in the next three weeks. The guy seems like a great guy. Just show us you can win!
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Don't ask how I know, but it isn't too hard to tell a Ford Granada from a Mercedes. I don't need Ricardo Montalban to try and convince me otherwise.
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Am I officially IN? :-)
Yes... I am purposely butchering my pop culture references. Still do we want a Mercedes or a Chrysler Cordoba? ;-P
But what about the fine corinthian leather?
All kidding aside, I wouldn't compare him to Rivers, but even Geno who I don't like is showing some improvement. Cousins and Foles look significantly better.
Now if he comes back and has two very good games, ok, he earns the right to keep playing. If he is terrible after two more games, it's time to swap for Ortin and see if after 5 1/2 weeks, he can run the offense.
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Isn't this the 10th time we've had a thread in some way about trading Spiller?
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The lamenting is over not taking Wilson or Cousins! Buddy Nix made a colossul blunder with the TJ Graham. Slightly moving up to pick him made that pick even more weird.
Add Foles to that list. I still want EJ to be successful, but he does not look like he is improving except with some read option plays.
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Outside of Buffalo, one of the big knocks on this team outside of Ralph not paying for big name coaches, but then eventually free agents and coaches not wanting to come here is blowing up the team every 2-3 years.
We are constantly starting over and the new regime brings in new systems, have to bring in p,ayers to match their system, and so on. The jury's out on EJ. Not because it was one game, but I'm still Leary of his ability to become an accurate QB who can make his progressions. I'm not a fan of mobilie QB's as I like a lot more not the greats, but the Kirk Cousins, and Nick Foles of the world. If you saw that game opposite the Bills (I was sitting at a sports bar with my son with a bunch of Philly fans), you have to scratch your head. Those guys look so much better with less or equal game experience to EJ. With that said, I get looking for another QB in the future if EJ does not improve.
I do not believe firing Whaley and Marrone is the answer. Give them time to build a successful franchise. I just think we have so many loyal and desperate fans out there we want any change to improve and sometimes you have to stay the course. I'm not a Hackett fan, but there are a lot of good coaches on this team.
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Nucci- I don't interpret this thread the same as you. Normally, I agree with a lot of your points. What I'm hearing from people is the tenet, that rivers is better than EJ, so the rain makes it a little harder for Rivers to win through the air. In addition, it seems like the assertion that our O-Line, and run game is superior to that of the Chargers so advantage Bills.
Yes, both sides will have slips, but it is even harder on a defense as a runner knows when he is going to cut, the defender has to react. I don't see the rain helping the Bills that much and could cost us the game as you have to be on the edge of your seat waiting to see if this is the play EJ fumbles on the snap, or Mario slips on the ground and gets hurt, and so on.
I hope the rain is as light as possible outside of the above points for one particular reason. I don't want people staying home as the weather sucks. We need the 12th man as loud as possible. I hope fans are as nutty as ever showing up even if it's a horrible rain storm.
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Guys:
I just watched a little special segment on the Bills and very complimentary by Boomer and Irvin about the Bills. Really nice to hear. No need for a big thread just have fun watching as they commented on the Offense, defense and special teams, and most importantly what a great place it is to play for the Bills.
I thought you guys would enjoy.
Go Bills!
BTW - you can catch it on demand if you don't feel like watching the whole show.

Week 4 predictions: Bills @ Texans
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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33-19, two picks from Fitz, and we use 12 personnel with a stress on Fred and Dixon to max protect against Watt.