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He's been to 2 AFC championships w Sanchez as QB, they went 8-8 last year with Ferguson and Mangold BY FAR the best players on offense. I think he's done a remarkable job considering he has zero talent to work with. This year it's finally collapsing on him. As much as a nut house that the Jets are he seems to get the most out of them. Other than the Oline, I can't think of any Jets player over the last two years that would start over what the Bills currently have.
As much of a blowhard as Rexxy can be, he grows on me. He did a hell of a job with a weak team last year, he won tremendous games with the likes of Sanchez. He's never had a good QB. Lastly, he coaches his teams well against Belicheck and has beaten them more than us with inferior teams to the Pats.
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I know it's an exercise, but consider a loaded team with depth traded an injury prone, yes explosive hybrid player who has anger mgmt issues to a team desperate for wins, a coaching a mgmt unit desperate to keep their jobs.
Why trade anyone? We're just in the beginning of creating depth on our team. I would never trade AW, Hughes, M. Williams. The only one someone else would want, we have excellent depth, and he is not producing in this system is Spiller. Forget his draft status. All that matters is his production, and liklihood of future production under this regime.
I'm not saying trade Spiller. What I would do is activate Bryce Brown, and only play Spiller on ST. See if we could mix up BB, AD, and FJ driving up the middle and does our running game improve. I just can't stand the impulsive nature of Spiller dancing too much, not patient enough to see the hole develop, and get caught for a loss. Yes, he's explosive, but a great running game is about getting 4.5-6 yards a carry. spiller's stats often look high because he has three 0 yard plays, and then breaks off a 14 yard run. He can't block to save his life.
So if I have a gun to my head it would be Spiller, and his street cred around the league would likely get us maybe a 3rd but most likely a 4th round pick. BTW- not that I care, but the media will crucify us in the beginning for making this trade.
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harvin is a big wild card behaviorally. lets not forget he chokeslammed a coach in college, and was banned from high school athletics. and allegedly had to be separated from a near fight with coaches in minnesota.
it may just not make sense YET.
There was a nice dialogue on Moving the Chains yesterday. The speculation was his salary was too high for his production, and he still is having anger mgmt issues along with he's never made it a full season. I don't see him as a huge threat other than on special teams. MN moved on from him, Seattle has moved on from him when he was their big free agent acquisition. What does that tell you?
Regarding the Jets, they looked sharp as they just kept running on the Pats. I don't see the Jets being able to run on the Bills, so they will have to win with Geno's arm.
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Say what you will, they have three wins in less than two weeks and right now are the best team in the division, AGAIN. Pisses me off too, but it is the reality of the situation. Pats will win the division again and I'm just hoping we can win enough games to get one of the WC's. We had our shot last Sunday and failed miserably. Yes Brady is a tool, but he is also a HOF QB.
True, but in looking at the schedules, if we fix the running game by better Guard play against weaker teams, we could still win the AFCE. I'm not saying we will, but I'll maintain hope until we're out. They have a tough schedule in the coming weeks. The sad thing is I really believed we have the team to play the Pats like the jets with solid defense, and run the damn ball down their throat.
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i can't believe we are talking about the Flutie RJ debate again.
That was the last time we were relevant whether you like him or not.
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I looked at their schedules and felt the same way. I want to believe Orton and his skill players are just getting some rhythm together, but as the BN printed the article on the offensive woes is a concern.
Youcan't really ask for more from the defense. With some of these more winnable games, you would ink the offense could gain some confidence.
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I'd take a flier on him. There is no way guys like K Williams and E Woods would put up with any BS from him.
From the notion of him being a better run blocker than against the pass, i still wouldn't mind as we want to be a running team. Use him on a rotational basis as he's cheap anyway.
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MW was not a problem in the locker room in Tampa, and I live there. He was a hell of a WR, and excellent #2, but was a knucklehead off the field.
He is not being used right this year. Part of that is just simply bad play from EJ. He was dumb to post on Saturday, but he can help us significantly if Orton can get his timing down with all of his WR.
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With our QB situation and no 1st round pick next year, odds are higher we pay up for a FA QB .... just wondering who becomes available.
When was the free agent QB available who became a franchise QB? Alex Smith. That's it. They don't come available. Only back ups. You have to draft one.
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Metz had it right earlier in the top stats in rush per game, pts per game, sacks, and third down conversions for defense. The pass defense is blurred by teams just cannot run against us.
If our offense was not so anemic, we'd be killing it right now. We need to stay on the field.
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Let's analyze what's been working for us.
Can I play that motivational clip at my next regional sales meeting? Cool with HR? Just sayin.
Thanks for the laugh.
It was too bad as I could only listen to the game on Sirius (my oldest was trying out for D1 college lax team- damn fatherhood stuff :-) ), but it sounded like our defense held up until towards the end of the game when they were on the field too long.
God I hate losing to the Patsies more than anyone, but with Orton we have a better shot at winning the next four games. You can't give up. We could be 7-3 in a month from now. After that we have Oakland and Cleveland. That is a scenario where we finish 9-7. We just have to beat one of these other tough teams to finish 10-6. I would take that even if it doesn't give us a wildcard as it means we are progressing as a team. I need something to look forward to with this team. Once I write them off for the year each year for the last 14 years which it usually takes til about week 9, it is just depressing for the remainder of the year.
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All good points on separation of administration and football. I like Whaley, and it was Nix who passed on some good QB's. We are basically one QB, a couple of guards and a TE away from a top line team.
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That's awesome seeing him tailgating.
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No one I believe will anoint him, but if he not only beats the Pats and starts to have a winning record, the fans will get behind him. If this happens, and let's say we win 6 of the next 8, I'm happy to see how it plays out. He's getting 5,5 mil / yr. so he has to be the highest paid back up.
It would not bother me in the slightest to have a reliable, in the pocket, quick decision type QB. I'm of the opinion pocket QB's who make excellent decisions and relaease the ball quickly are the best QB's. Mobile QB's are always at risk of one hit from an injury.
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He's a frustrating back. He makes so many mistakes where he is not patient and waits for the hole to develop, and not a dependable back, then knocks one off for 40 yards. I'm nervous everytime he comes in, vs so relieving to me when Fred is in there. He always seems to pick up the block, catch that hot route as the Qb is under pressure, and has such good balance, he knows how to fall forward and get those last two yards.
The problem is father time is getting older. Thank god for Whaley picking up Dixon and Brown.
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JR, I hear you but that ignores this is a much more talented team than he played on in the past. I used to watch Chicago, and Denver games. There are more weapons, and a significantly better defense.
I'm not making a bust for him in canton, but let's just see. If he gets his sea legs about him with this team, and does well this year, I'm fine with drafting a QB again and keep working with him.
I believe there is a chance he is our Alex Smith. That is a compliment as Alex is a solid NFL QB.
Note to Marrone: Your an ex NFL Lineman and coach. Fix the damn Guard situation so our running game is fixed. And oh, by the way, stop putting Spiller in as a every down running back. I was so pissed at that pathetic attempt for a block when Orton was sacked. That is completely unacceptable.
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I know i'll get lots of bad responses but as Ron White said about his wife "you can give a woman boob job, nose, job, lipo, etc etc etc."
You can't fix stupid!
Before the EJ lovers kill me, I'm not saying he's stupid. He seems like a great guy. You just can't teach smart decision making, and quick thinking. He'll never get there. Russell Wilson is not necessarily smarter than EJ, but he is football smart. RW makes excellent football decisions knowing when to run or Throw, and when to slide.
He's just an excellent franchise QB. EJ will never get there. When people cite the Peyton Manning teams wher his rookie year he did not play well. They are leaving out when you are picked high as a rookie, your team sucks. EJ had talent around him and is doing nothing sith it. Orton is a hold over and again we need a franchise QB.
This is why I'm so pissed at Indy. Really, you get Manning and Luck for basically without injury 30 years of franchise QB's. C'mon man!
Can any of you imagine a Luck type QB in 98 after Kelly retired in 96? What would this tea, look like with a retiring QB now after 25-30 years of excellent play.
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I can see K. Williams taking the 220 y.ard stat to B. Spikes and putting it above his locker. "I guess your old team might run all over us". BS "not this week".
As my favorite football movie quote from Remember the titans "not another yard, you blitz all night, you make them remember the night they played the Titans!"
God I want to see Brady on his back all day. Orton, just play a decent game and let the defense wreak havoc. That would be a fun day.
If we get back KW and NB, look for a fun day. These WR will start to get a synergy with KO. I trust Marrone will get improvements on th o line. Not the best, just serviceable in the guard spot.
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Bill - I look forward to your post the most every Monday morning and agree each week with 95% of your points. Thanks and please keep it up. I don't have time to read all posts due to that work thing, but have read about half so far. It's fun on Monday morning, I don't everyone else's routine, but I open up my I-Pad, start looking through TSW, have NFL Network on, but muted, and put NFL Radio on to hear Ross and Papa's comments on Monday.
Ok, so I'm an addict. Isn't that the first step?
Eball, sorry on your dad. Get better, but cool you brought him your I-Pad.
Onto the game.
- the defense played like it was their Super Bowl. What a performance by that unit, willing them to win, and without our best defensive player in Kyle Williams, and I believe Bradham was out too. Stefan Charles played well, and Dareus responded to the need for a big game.
- give Orton some time. He had no pre-season, no off season, and no reps with the #1's until probably this week. He knocked the rust off in the first half with a bad interior line, and had an excellent second half. I bet we'll see a better performance out of him next week, even as good as the Patriots can play like yesterday.
-this defense will need to continue to dominate against the run as the Pats hammered Cincy yesterday with ground and pound, and screens and play action by the TE's. I believe we can do it.
- our WR are good and will look even better as the synergy improves with Orton. I noticed on runs we were in the second half putting in Frank Summers, sliding Henderson to help the guard to stop Suh, and Frank the tank had to handle the RT. it worked on some plays.
GO BILLS!
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I would assume the fans had to be somewhere in the end zone as that makes the most sense for disrupting someone's eyes. The laser pointer would have to be very strong for this to be an issue, and the person would need to be very accurate.
I don't discount what was said by the players, but this is harder than you think. If true, I hope they prosecute the guys. Not good for a person's eyes at all.
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Play action dump to Fred to the left for 4 yards.
They won't chance Orton not getting into a rhythm. My other option although first one counts is a cut back run from Fred in the A Gap for three yards.
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I'd agree. I've made the point last year our defense looked strong in the first 5-6 games he was out. He's a very talented player, but the Bills made the right call as far as cap, and his intentions not to play for us. What's funny is he expressed he wanted to play for a playoff contender. It is a huge surprise in football world that the Saints are playing this bad. In addition, there is a chance with Orton playing well today coupled with Megatron limited or not playing at all we could beat the Lions (not probable but possible). Then we have a damaged Patriots team next week. My guess is Cincy will crush the Pats today.
That places us handily in first place at 4-2. Byrd, you chose the wrong team.
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it was his goal all along to play as a starter. He knew he'd never start for Dallas with Romo, so he walked into a sweet deal, and good for him if he plays well.
We'll see. He's played with some bad teams, except one year with a good defense with the Bears. Even then, he didn't have much for receivers, and running backs. Again, that was many years ago.
If he could be anything close to Alex Smith, we'll turn this team around. If not, we'll suck again as always.
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Time to erect that Ralph statue out in front of the stadium....NOW. What a legacy.
I couldn't agree more. I'd love like they have in Chicago for Halas a beautiful large statue of RW at one of the main entrances.

Marrone's Unforgiveable Coaching Sin
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I heard "Marrone's Unforgivable Sin" was up for a Razzie.
Right up there with Catwoman and Commando.