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Just now, gonzo1105 said:
No, I think you’re not looking deep enough into it. Again no one answers the question why a highly talented athletic freak struggled to see the field for 4 out of his 5 years. The only thing people point to was he was a HS QB. Well I just pointed out there are hundreds of examples of this and no one wants to rebutt besides well it’s clear you want to disagree.
Can’t point to NFL talent, can’t point to a high level program at South Carolina. So it’s points to something else who knows but I lean towards struggles to process or learn a playbook since he’s so athletically gifted
And when he becomes a successful NFL starting WR, I can say I was right. Or when he doesn't, you can have that crown!
You're too dug in and wanting to debate for my blood.
Most of us that like Legette really like what we see on his film. Explosiveness that cannot be taught.
Regarding the QB thing, even at the ridiculously low pop-warner level that I've coached at, we put our most intelligent processors of information in the QB spot. You see it all over.
Move on from me gonzo, I'm not down with the debate...
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Just now, dave mcbride said:
I don't have a dog in the Legette fight because I don't know enough, but this scouting report does raise some red flags given what sort of player Beane says he wants a the position: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10095835-xavier-legette-nfl-draft-2024-scouting-report-for-south-carolina-wr
Yep they're all gonna have some of that where we are picking. There are flaws on AD Mitchell too (some say he takes plays off, not a hands plucker but more of a cradler, etc., size concerns on Worthy, heck Brian Thomas even shows limited routes ran in his critiques).
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Just now, gonzo1105 said:
So what took him so long if he was incredibly talented and smart. It’s not like South Carolina had a ton of NFL level talent in front of him. Juice Wells will be drafted but not much beyond that. People don’t want to answer these questions.
There has to be some reason and it’s not he took a long time to learn the position because he was a HS QB. I would actually say and this is an assumption that he might lack intelligence to pick things up
I think you're going to deep with all this. Some of us like Legette more than you for the reasons we've listed (all we can go off are the facts listed about these guys and the film we've seen) but we also won't be heartbroken if its someone else that the Bills take, even another position all together like if someone drops from the top 15. Nuff said really.
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3 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
People make this case. There are a lot of QBs in HS who transition to other positions. He’s not special or some outlier when it comes to this. There are 100s of examples of thisThats fine, but those 100's are mostly smart enough to play QB at some level. By the way, Beane said a lot more than just "they need to be versatile and smart". Legette may or may not be their pick at 28 but yes, some of us really like him for his strength, size, versatility and incredible explosiveness. His size to speed ratio is insane. Similarly, a lot of us like AD Mitchell... Heck, I could be happy with Franklin or even Worthy for other reasons.
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10 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
He also has a ton of flaws in his game as well and will be pushing 24 when hes in the NFL his rookie season. If he was a guy who was 21 I would be more game for him but he's not. There are so many people here who are going to be highly disappointed when the Bills pass on him at 28.
He also played QB before playing WR, which is part of why he's out there at 24. And it also means he's smart enough to play QB at some level, which requires the intelligence BB is talking about.
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Can we stop using the Mock sim resources that have Legette still available at 60? Just doesn’t seem realistic at all. No offense to anyone.
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Legette is my 1st choice at 28 if Thomas is gone. He just pops on the field. But I wouldn’t be overly upset with the prospect of Worthy, who is a wr, not just a burner. Tackle at 60 makes sense from a depth of talent in this draft perspective, but I’d personally rather get a guy who will have a good shot to see the field year one in round 2.
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With some trading around...
PICK: 26 RND: 1 (BUF)Brian Thomas Jr.
WR LSUPICK: 60 RND: 2 (BUF)
T'Vondre Sweat
DT Texas
PICK: 99 RND: 3 (BUF)
Calen Bullock
S USC
PICK: 128 RND: 4 (BUF)
Matt Goncalves
OT Pittsburgh
PICK: 160 RND: 5 (BUF)
Josh Newton
CB TCU
PICK: 189 RND: 6 (BUF)
Jacob Cowing
WR Arizona
PICK: 200 RND: 6 (BUF)
Tanor Bortolini
C Wisconsin
PICK: 248 RND: 7 (BUF)
Keith Randolph Jr.
DL-EDGE Illinois-
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Why would some of you clowns move Diggs as part of your fantasy trade up to get MHJ???? Then we still have the missing #2 outside WR issue. SMH
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The Xavier draft!
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Just now, SCBills said:
Does anyone worry about Beane potentially boxing himself in at WR in the Draft?
Mack Hollins doesn't change the fact that this WR room, as currently constructed, is not very good. We have a question mark at WR1.. Is he still a WR1, what level of WR1 as he clearly isn't the type to just take over a game no matter what. We have a decent slot WR with some outside flex in Shakir. And we now have a depth WR in Hollins.
This is a loaded WR class.. It's also one that has Tier 1 (Harrison, Odunze, Nabers) all gone in the Top 10 and the Tier 2 WR's potentially picked over by 28.
People seem to think we have all this draft ammo to move up in RD1.. We don't. We have a lot of picks on Day 3... that's not moving us up much.
I really see us taking 2 WR's in the draft. I hope one of them is still around that is worthy of taking in rd. 1, but if not, we might have to go "back to back" rd. 2 and 4 since we don't have a 3, or try to jump into rd. 3 for the 2nd WR.
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Bills fans sweating this type of signing as an indicator that the team thinks he's gonna replace Gabe snaps or play a significant role are entertaining! There's more of them here than I thought, but I suppose that makes sense 🤣
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Trade up for Cooper DeJean and let Bills land explode.
My goodness I would sure hate that! And the first person I would want to check in on would be @Bill from NYC
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39 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Fans need to realize the Bills are being cheap this offseason.
That's not even it though. The is a depth signing. A cheap 1 year deal. They need to fill out the roster. This guy fills a need that left with Sherfield. There will be no glorious expectations.
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To think that when DQ came back to play last season in the playoffs that his pectoral and upper body strength was at full 100 go status would be pretty short sighted. This season, we'll be getting fully recovered DQ. Plus DT's like him can play a bit into their 30's. And the price? 10 mil guaranteed for 2 years is quite palatable indeed. Not sure why anyone thinks that is much in the way of a starter's salary.
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2 minutes ago, Process said:
$10M per, not worth it. He completely fell off towards the end. Get some young blood in here.
That was injury related.
I expected to lose him, but am still a little bummed.
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Higgins left me wondering how good he REALLY is last season. Drops and separation issues at times through the season. I'm not close enough to Bengals info to know if injuries contributed...
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never saw him as a "stud" or even a top half safety
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Been watching some of these day 2-3 WR's this weekend and I've come away super impressed with Thrash, Baker and Burton. All three look to me like the NFL won't be too much for them.
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Groot just desperately needs to stay healthy for a full season. When he is, he's a very dynamic starting DE. I agree with other posters comparisons to Oliver. Oliver has actually played quite well for a number of years, but kept getting banged up during seasons (for different reasons than Rousseau mind you)
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47 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:
I really like Legette... I was SO disappointed when he only measured 6-1 at the Sr Bowl... Then you watch him again and forget all about that.
There is absolutely nothing whatsoever negative about him being 6'1". he's the same height and weight as AJ Brown.
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Had to trade up in the second as JPJ was still there. Ended up with 7 picks with my maneuvering, which seems realistic as opposed to 10 picks.
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2024 WR Draft Class
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What would the Bills realistically need to give up (in picks, not silly player ideas please) to get to say pick 10 to 12 for Odunze?
Next year's #1+28+?