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All the remaining WR's have flaws. Opinions are fun but nobody here (or amongst the teams) knows at all which guys will overcome those flaws and which won't. For that reason I hope we choose 2 WR in the next 4 picks.
My preference at 33 is Mitchell, but it seems like there's still quite a few possibilities (including another trade) that would make some sense.
Franklin wouldn't anger me either...
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1 minute ago, boyst said:
My dream. AD the wr from Texas now, then the DUI DT, then the troy Franklin dude in 3rd
I don't think Franklin makes it to the 3rd round.
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4 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:
I have no idea why, but I get TJ Graham vibes from him 👀
WAAAAYYY more productive than Graham, no?
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1 hour ago, Big Turk said:
Some believe that DeJean is a future 4-5x all-pro. If Beane views him as that I don't see how he could pass on him. Very likely is the BPA at this point as well.
However there are players that fit the bill at 4 positions there right now.
Newton at DT, DeJean at S/CB, McKinstrey at CB and Mitchell at WR.
They could maybe be OK with taking any of those 4 and maybe be willing to move down 3 picks and take whatever one is left or pick from those 4...
Beane has a ton of options right now in this spot.
No doubt on the DeJean point. I imagine he is by far the best rated player available still, but I still want a WR instead if I had my way, as irrational as it may be!
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Its awesome that PFN has the 1st round filled in!
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2 hours ago, Einstein said:
We traded a 4th for a 3rd, so we essentially moved up half a round.
38 spots... so OVER a full round, not half a round.
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People saying we helped KC are really that dense?
We got equal trade value per the Rich Hill value chart and turned a 4th into a 3rd rd pick.
KC would have drafted Worthy where they sat or even in the 29,30 or 31 spot. The Bills didn't want Worthy.
We went all of 4 spots back.... oh no!
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1 minute ago, Jerboski said:
We didn’t get fair market value for moving up 4 spots in the first
not to mention, it’s your rival so that should add even more to the price. I have no issue with a trade down, getting the return we got from the team we traded with is not nearly good enough… kc cannot believe we made that deal
Yes we did in fact it was almost a dead even match. The value #’s differed by 1 point
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Clowns, look at your own polls on who to take if you had your choice with the Bills staying at 28 or trading back?
Worthy was what, 20% of the share?
Now KC has him and we still pick 4 picks later and gained a 3rd rounder and its freakout time...smdh
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down 4 spots. Plenty of WR left. We got a 3rd now. What's not to like?
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It was beyond predictable that so many of you would act as if you all thought Xavier 160 lb Worthy was the next Randy Moss just as soon as KC picked him.
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BPA might be a DB or Newton, yikes
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36 minutes ago, Putin said:
I still remember him saying how Allen will never be more then 60 %completion QB ,
Yep and he also believes momentum in sports competition to be a fairy tale, which anyone who has played organized team sports can tell you is bs.
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26 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
As per usual Schopp has no clue what he's talking about.
This sets it up for him to cry when the Bills don't send the farm and do what he would like.
Has more to do with sending a willing trade partner the best deal. Believe it or not...not all the teams looking to move back are willing to move all the way to 28. One thing I'm certain of. If Beane wants to make a move...an attempt will be made. He's not shy. He's also not going to be taken advantage of, as well.
He actually said on yesterday's show how trading way up would be the stupidest idea possible, and that math backs that up.... I disagree with him, but that's his take.
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As the draft rapidly approaches, all I can say to everyone is to learn from the past. Learn from the Josh Allen selection. NONE of us know more than the teams spending thousands of man hours on these guys, not only on the field, but how these guys fit to their teams, what their mental and medical situations are, how much of a risk the teams are willing to take on a guy, etc. Also none of us INCLUDING the teams know if any of these guys will work out in the league. The pre-draft rankings you have or agree with out there probably don't come too close to matching any other team's draft board, especially as you get out of the 1st 20 prospects. Sure there are players with higher odds than others... Resist drawing your lines in the sand where you claim either "Super Bowl here we come!" or "This team is doomed and set back 5 years!" after your team's selection. You have no idea of that. The league turns over much faster than it used to in terms of rosters. Take the choices that are made and try to reason why they were, and know that a whole organization is behind the decision. There are going to be "sure thing" players who end up failing, along with RAS score 1.5 players who shine in the game. Bottom line, try to enjoy the draft.
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Traded 28 plus next year's 1 and the 2 we got from the Diggs trade.
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Many people are underselling XL because of what they've parroted from other people, and that's fine. I also suspect the "intellect concerns" could wrongly be tied to something as silly as him having a strong southern dialect. A one trick pony he is NOT. Watch the all-snaps video. Anyway, 1st round picks are for athletic traits and upside in my opinion.
I do think LM is going to be a reliable, consistent separator and fine player and would be happy to get him as well, just not my preference. If he is part of a "double dip" at WR I'd be ecstatic.
I am not one of those "this guy is great, so this other guy sucks" people that are so common on forums.
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4 minutes ago, Brandon said:
I can buy that on Thomas. I watched all his targets yesterday. The straightine speed is absurd, no doubt about it, and maybe thats enough for a mid/late 1st. Everything else...meh. I'm not going to argue if they pick him, I've been wrong before. I just don't see it.
well good on the Bills if we can get enough negative talk about BTJ to have him slide closer or even all the way to 28!
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I'm swinging for a home run, so I'm taking Legette.
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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Teams do not play man defense much anymore. It’s like 65% zone league.
The Bills need speed to offset their underneath WRs. My guys are Brian Thomas and Worthy. I don’t want McConkey but I prefer him over Legette.
I think most serious football fans in these type of discussions know that teams play a lot more zone now. What some here are referring to in most cases when they reference needing a WR who can beat man is our need to have players that are able to win vs the clutching and grabbing type man coverage that is legalized (unwritten rule) in the NFL playoffs every year. Credit folks like @BADOLBILZ for pointing this out many times previously.
With that said it comes down to those folks wanting a type of WR that can consistently win against those tactics. After that, it comes down to trying to judge these draft prospects in that area. I am not sold that looking purely at their numbers vs man or press man in college alone are going to provide those complete answers. Sometimes its a little more obvious than that, ie. some athleticism/size combinations just win more easily vs those tactics.
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4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Here's what's going to happen.
Be it at 28 or not the Bills will draft a player. No matter who that player is the board will instantly erupt into a giant cesspool of complaints. Be it it's the "wrong guy", wrong position" or just not the guy each person wanted individually.
There will be a thread started to announce the pick where many people will wax poetic about why it's a terrible pick and how we could have drafted a different guy, one they personally liked better most likely. This will continue and play out after every pick the Bills make.
There will be a few optimistic posters on each guy, but these threads aren't the place for optimism so those posters will be attacked.
Slowly the gnashing of teeth will turn into a "we'll see" attitude on some players. We'll hear all about how "McDermott influenced that pick" after any defensive player is taken and that "McDermott won't play rookies" after any offensive selection.
*BONUS- Next season anytime any rookie in this draft class has a nice game there will be immediate threads started about them saying we chose the wrong guy.
This will all play out for the 2025 draft as well.
Nailed it!
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Just now, Back2Buff said:
You can't say that. You need a dance partner and teams are under the assumption Bills will be good next year, so you are asking a team to drop to the late first, for another late first and a second. Teams don't want to do it. Every year you hear teams say they got offers and didn't want to drop that far. I think the highest Bills can go this year is mid teens.
Yep, of course...That kinda goes without saying. My point was just going off of trade capital and value charts
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Going all in on the trade up (2 1's and 2 2's) for Odunze. Happy with the depth as well.
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Coleman = Benjamin, Davis = Moss - Beane players
in The Stadium Wall
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awful comparisons. Those comparisons are actually addressed in this cover 1 video. I'd recommend it -
He's a waaay better athlete than Benjamin was and the hands and over the top abilities in tight coverage are worlds better than Gabe.