PatsFanNH

Good Point! The key is the Bills should do all they can to keep Allen healthy! Yes even at 70% he is better than most QBs.. it won’t be good enough against KC, Miami, or Cincy.

If your O line plays like last night against the Jets, you may just get Allen killed!My point winning if you win that game but Allen comes out hurt your chances of beating Miami is slim to none.

If that was/is the case and it ever came out the Bills be in soooo much trouble! Your at the top or near the top of the mountain so the punishment will NOT fit the crime..

IMO the Bills need either A. Get the O line healthy or B. Need do roll out with Allen. Last night he got hit HARD a lot. I know most here will just go “he is Allen he can take it” which is mostly true! But NO QB can stay healthy getting hit like that and so often.

100% question will your O line be healthy for the Jets game? They have an amazing pass rush and a very good secondary… their weakness is a meh to god awful O. the truth is 3 of the next 4 games will be rather tough games for the Bills.. and the 1 lay up could be hard if their starting QB is back. So hardly an easy run for the Bills.

S it just me but it seems he went off the rails around the same time he got that nasty hit against the Bengals? I mean he was weird before then but more like a little boy never grew up not this. I wonder how severe his CTC(?) is.

Dude it’s the rule! Meyers never saw Hamlin coming he was finishing the catch while the other Bills player (Poyer?) was trying to break it up.. then Hamlin came in and hit him in the shoulder with his helmet. Which I think someone else pointed out you are not allowed to do anymore. You can not lead with your helmet. Please don’t take me defending him as me saying you’re wrong. You can very well be 100% right! The whole O just looks like something a HS coach wrote out on a back of a napkin or something. That’s why I want O’Brian with him installing an Alabama like O we would truly see who Jones is.. I think our “coordinators” are so bad we could have Mahomes or Allen back there and maybe have 2 more wins.

Helpless as in unable to defend himself from the hit. Which he was. Again the right call, and maybe no need for the ejection but it was definitely a hit to the head of a defenseless defender… (no I don’t think he meant to hurt him or anything just happens) I just want him as the OC. He be a gigantic leap forward from dumb and dumber. He also would bring in a similar O to what Alabama runs so we will truly see what we have in Jones. Last year he started good and like a lot of rookies ran out of steam late. This year he been horrid but the play calling been so obvious the opposing D have been calling them out. (So how do you blame the QB for obvious scheme and play calling issues). With him here we know right away if Jones is or is not the answer.. which IMO is the most important question.

That’s the million dollar question. They have some great #2’s and 3 receivers (Parker, Meyers) I don’t know enough about College know who a good top WR would be. As for FA depends on who is truly available. Lmao that was last year. He got rather ripped in the off season.. he was primed make a decent jump with any semblance of a cohesive O plan in place. (Just because he is primed doesn’t mean he would but he had everything set up that way.) then they trade their top Guard, Wynn goes backward (which I didn’t think possible) and Savage is just that on the O line, add in Brown looks old now and we’ll it’s a death trap behind that line.

You do know I was being tongue in cheek with the Brady thing right? First Brady would have gone ballistic on Patricia and thrown his headset into the stands and told him sit down and shut up and watch and learn.. Jones just showed his frustration, no time behind a banged up O line and WR who were not getting open on terribly designed plays. Again I am reserving judgement on Jones till I see him with a true #1 WR. Look at every top QB this year they all have an amazing top WR or TWO. What does Jones have?

Will say what I always say about Jones. It’s to dang early tell. He could be a bust or he could be good. I don’t think he will ever be too 10 but he could be a serviceable Starting QB with a good team around him.. hell I like see him just once with a top WR. I am sure you were like everyone else about Tua as well and this year he is an MVP candidate..

Lol I felt he was channeling his inner Brady. I think Brady would audible out of every play call that man sends in.. he is so BAAAD and then tell him take the head set off and he has it from here. Oh speaking of Brady the rumor here is he may come back and help mentor young Jones for a year.. lol

Sigh called terrible O coaching! The other teams were literally calling out the O plays, the media actually got hold of that before the Vikings game and BB admitted it’s been going on for SEVERAL weeks. Hard to execute the play when they know what’s coming. Last week they changed it up was more the OLD patriots O and look at that they moved the ball and scored a lot and probably have more if not for drops and Aghalor slowing down on a perfectly thrown deep ball. Last night the O calling was pathetic again! They had 1 drive where they called it like last week then they went brain dead.. Amazing how a Bills fan can’t tell that O coaches can make or break a QB. Hell look at Gino Smith now, he looks amazing in Seattle.. but looked like hot garbage in NY Jets. Why? COACHING.

Really? He wasn’t last year and this year he has more O talent around him. Sorry but very bad is Wilson, and Young.. he is ok and shown flashes of being very good.

Wait! You had a backup left tackle in?? The Pats had the 3rd string aka the guy they just signed off a practice squad playing RT all night last night. a LT playing with the Flu or some kind of bug and a center who has a severely bad thigh injury.. So I guess it’s a bad look on your D Coordinator. The Pats Play calling helped your D a lot. For whatever reason instead of staying to the quick passes and moving the ball down the field he went screen happy and made things very difficult. Oh and the for-mentioned O line issues negated the run game pretty much.

The play got me was the opening drive 3rd down and he is scrambling and he shovel passes it to Singletary? For the first down just before going over the line of scrimmage and he got plastered as he passed it.. I was like Damn the D can’t buy a break! Allen did amazing last night.. (still can’t believe the jump and throw for a TD..)

I agree with this assessment. The injury I think is a reinjury of the shoulder that Meyers as been playing threw for awhile.. Meyers may not be the most talented receiver but man he has heart! (Bills be crazy to not try and get him if the Pats dumb enough to let him hit the open market. He be open almost all the time with Diggs getting doubled so much)

Whisper “Bruins goalie coach is Awesome!” Bruins always have a good to great Goaltending because of him. You are right though, lol maybe if the Pats are bad a bit I can afford go to more games again! Lol I wonder if that happens in Buffalo with the new stadium? (Pricing out the real fans so the stadium isn’t anywhere as lively as it should be)

Allen took some hard hits last night. Uche for my Pats had his best game. (He forced the fumble) Ya at least Allen is mobile and can make up for the bad O line. Jones needs a good O line or at least an O coordinator smart enough to throw short quick passes. Sadly my Pats have neither.

Defenseless as in he can not do anything to protect himself. That will be called every time. Also don’t forget they didn’t go and watch it in slow motion or see stills when they made the call. In real time action it looked like helmet to helmet on a defenseless player. (OMG I feel dirty I am defending the refs eww)

There is a reason I had a lot of free space in old Sullivan stadium lol. IMO People got interested in the Pats when the Krafts bought the team and actually cared about the product on the field. I do believe there has been a waiting list since 1996 for season tickets. Sadly fans like myself can’t afford season tickets anymore so I get to maybe 1 game a year maybe 2. I was thinking traveling to Buffalo at the end of the year.. but Buffalo in January seems insane.. lol People up here are rabid Hockey fans. (I am one of them the Bruins are making the Pats season easier to take lol) I would say most up here till recently were rabid Red Sox fans and Celtics fans. We are lucky having 5 pro sports teams if you count the revolution in Soccer. Pats O line is bad! Had a practice squad guy starting at RT, and well Brown has been god awful all year.. I also don’t understand how Andrews was able to play his thigh injury was considered really bad when it happened and was suppose be out for the year. (I give the man a pass for any issues he caused ) my point is.. the Pats O line is horrid right now.

The hit just isn’t allowed in todays NFL. He is a defenseless receiver who put his head down trying to secure the ball from the first person hitting him. I hate how people make it sound like Meyers did it because of the coming hit. He didn’t he did it to secure the ball.. the Penalty was correct, I don’t know the rule well enough on the ejection part. I don’t think it warranted that as I said I don’t think he was trying to hurt Meyers. IMO if that’s ever the case the NFL should make it a completed catch.. so as to not reward the dirty play. AGAIN I do not think he meant to hurt him.

The hatred for the Jets is a personal thing for me. I have hated them since I was a kid. Let’s just say their fans in the 80’s and 90’s were the biggest butt heads I had to deal with in the old Sullivan Stadium. i have never seen such arrogant fans in my life whose team stunk! I want their misery to last forever. I never have had an issue with Bills fans. You guys were always awesome even when we truly SUCKED! You were fun to tailgate with and even when you were at your peak you were not jerks and for myself I enjoyed the Bills v Pats game even when we get destroyed. dolphins Fans were ok as well. Although the way they talked about Marino I expected him to turn water into wine and walk on water lol. They were arrogant bandwagon Pats fans of their day without being anywhere near as good. So how can I hate them? Lol

It’s awful! Doesn’t help we had a practice squad player starting at RT. I think he did ok, IMO the play calling was beyond awful! Way way too many screens. This year is toast for my Pats I am hoping for Bill O’Brian for next year.

1st I didn’t think he was trying to hurt Meyers. I thought he was just trying lay down a hit stick type hit. (Like you said to dislodge the ball). Meyers was trying to secure the catch with both hands.. I think the hit aggravated the shoulder injury that Meyers was playing through that he got last week.