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I will take a tplayer with Manziels issues over a Hardy issue any day. And I dont see Hardy playing time deminished at all.

I disagree. now they still will not know what they have and will cut him and he will go somewhere else where he will sit on the bench and learn while getting sober with support from the team. He has shown talent and flashes being a good QB, and Cleveland stinks so bad they cant afford keep screwing up on QB picks.

He does, but benching him for falling off the wagon?? be like being suspended from work for the same thing just dumb. Now if his play suffered then you do it but he has played very well for them and this is just a dumb dumb move. No, he went to rehab on his own resolve. It is not unusual for alcoholics to fall off the wagon especially early on.

Wait all because he went to a party and had a drink? when did the browns become the MORAL police? talk about a franchise you go to kill your career.

I saw the one in the Giant SB where Brady got called for it even thought there was a guy right there... the refs inconsitencies are annoying. And there is where the JUDGEMENT call comes in. the ref has to determine they feel he was doing this.

1. it ws the first game without Edelman, who is Brady security blanket (no it isnt gronk its E) and Amandola was doing well but losing him AND Dobson made the Pats O that much simpler defend/ 2. this was the first game where these 5 Olineman played together at all this year, To say it was a hot mess would be an improvement. 3. If Amandola out for a long stretch, then yes Pats O is in trouble, but I think the Pats D can keep them in any game left fo this year. 9E do back for the playoffs.)

great screen shot, clear Holding and an easy call... shocked the refs saw it lol

We get it the Refs SUCKED! its kinda ol news now lol

Well, Buffalo got a perfect storm , First game with No Edelman, and Oline playing together for the first time as well. Add in losing Dobson early then Amandola in the 3rd quarter and any QB look bad with losing that many weapons so quickly. (the play calling also showd this with the run heavy 4th quarter.) But the Bills executed the plan masterfully! all credit to them, like 1 billion times. I litterally loled at work!

Great work, and I am sure there is a ton of holding on both sides that did not get called. The refs were just BAD Last night.

I THINK, It is because they were at the line to snap the ball so stopping the clock would not help them or hurt them. (I believe.) Game was called very weirdly.

The whistle was BAD, so was the late hit on Brady, the missed PI call when Lafell wasnot allowed to get back tot he ball and I dont know how many times Chandler Jones was held but I lost count lol.. But in general it was gawd awful both ways, I mentioned the missed Late hit on Taylor, the time running out at the end of the game.. etc

I agree, but it is rare see Intentional Grounding ever called. I have seen it a few times myself this year with the Pats D rush making the QB throw it away. Almost like they been told dont call it we want more points..

Yup very painful in denver right now with the #2 seed and sitting at 8-2. By far the silliest example ever! Manning is awful but the team is still winning and damn good!!! A better example for the Pats will be that BB can't coach forever. He is the emperor of the empire. Brady is Vader.

It has to have a receiver near the ball I believe if it doesnt ge to the LOS.

ODB had one catch of 87 yards, that happened because of Butler being knocked off ODB by McCourty. Outside of that he had 4 catches for less than 20 yards. Your best player IS your RB. so of course you want to run the ball.

Look at the names of the QB's throwing the balls there to. Brady,Manning, Rogers.. I doubt Denver gets them with the new QB, but we will see.

lol I was making a point that I am not a newish pats fan, I know what losing feels like. I remember it well.

Without looking back, I thought Watkins was covered well underneath. But again since he wasnt thrown to we dont really know.

Question, isn't this like the 3rd or 4th MNF game where the Refs been just Awful?? (I rememberTHE ANNOUNCERS EVEN SAYING "YET ANOTHER BAD GAME FOR THE REFS ON mONDAY NIGHT") Well I try always stay classy win or lose. I mean I remember the 1-15 year that brought us Drew Bledsoe, or the miracle year in 1986 when Tony Eason got killed by the bears D. (I also remember thinking they could win after they got the TO early but then our star WR broke his leg on a pass ad we settled for a FG) So I know how losing goes, even tough embarrassing losses. Think a lot of people are not remembering it was windy out there even Brady had issues of underthrowing balls.

I would think it would be considered to take a QB sometime in the Draft as Taylor style of play is not going keep him healthy all 16 games IMO.

I disagree on the interception, it was OBVOUS holding if not PI that caused the INT begin with. So I thought it was an obvious call. But the refs stunk for both sides all game! just awful!

Can anyone tell me WHY Rex was in that refs face for anyways at that point???

I disagree, it changed the hole complection of the game. I would bet the Bills go for it in the 4th quarter instead of taking the FG. Who knows maybe it works and the game gets tied.. but being down 2 scores you take the 3 and hope to get a chance get the TD later. Butler is not Elite, t least not yet. Why would any competent coach leave a CB 1 on 1 to be beat deep like that?? Butler coverd Watkins very well and on almost every play. (IMO of course) I dare say he is just as good as Revis would be for us THIS year. 9key word there is THIS lol)

Then these refs missed at least one blatant one on Brady. lol Last night was the first time the 5 starters (Minus Solder) have played together this year and it was obvious. Hopefully that corrects itself like it did last year. and as for the WR I PRAY Amandola is ok (losing him on O be bad, but we lose that big play ability on PR as well.) , and we (hopefully) get Edelman back for the playoffs. (possibly even week 17.)