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The question is kinda vague, best as in right now or over all? Right now I’d give the edge to Rogers, overall it’s no debate even Rogers says Brady is the best ever.

You can scheme all you want, but if they don’t run good routes or make clean cuts in routes they won’t get separation. If they are doing a straight go route that is all speed, but if it’s a double move you got to sell the short route first. Can it be taught? Yes but by the time they make the pros they should have it Down to a science I would think.

The Giants and Oakland are the two worst teams in football.. hands down!! SF — lost their star (they hope) QB early in the year and we know how most teams react to that.. Bills — Sorry the Bills have a top 4 D and also missing their rookie QB and have had a rookie carousel since he got hurt. Cards — are not good but they have some talent and def better than the Giants Or Raiders dumpster fires

That wasn’t my intent. My point was stop thinking he is great based off of a small sample size. Wentz, Watson, and Jimmy G have come back to good QB but not earth shattering game changers. Both Goff and Mahommes have a sick amount of studs around them in skill positions. Goff has more and well that team be done if a certain (Gurley) RB goes down.

^^^ This right here! This is Mahommes first thrust into the league. There isn’t a ton of game film on him and he has a ton of talented skill position players. Let’s see how next year goes for him. (And the rest of this year.)

Our front 7 is not that good.. and I’m being nice.. lol that said he can run.

For your D the key will be to NOT over run Trubisky. If they do he will scamper for huge gains. He did that against the Pats a couple weeks ago.. they got pressure but the open lanes for him to run were annoying. Their D is legit and if I was the Bills head coach I’d be reinforcing “protect the football” as I believe the Bills could hang around and possibly win as long as they don’t give the Bears short or easy points. Their O isn’t great but it is capable of stringing drives together. my question to you is, do you see the D having a let down after leaving it all on the field Monday and still not coming away with the W?

Name calling classy.. No but your example is piss poor! Youbsee that waiver protects them from NORMAL accidents the bungee cord breaking is negligence and voids said contract. Maybe you should read up a bit on the law. But if say a family member breaks an arm because they stretched their arms out.. guess what yourbshit out of luck as you signed the waiver and that was their own dang fault. The rule in the eyes of a jury say 20 years out gives the elusion of the NFL trying to protect players.. being able point out say a dozen or so suspended (preseason) showed it was enforced.. thus possibly proving to a jury do diligence to protect the players. Nothing fully protects anyone as juries decisions are unpredictable but it definitely strengthens their defense.

^^ I agree with this 100%!! The league doesn’t care but by having this rule on the books it protects them from even legal action down the road.. I understand what your saying, and believe it or not I don’t think we are far off. I believe the rule will never be really enforced, they did it some in pre season, and probably do it again a few more pre seasons but when the games count they do not want the refs throwing anyone out. The rule just there make them look good and get good PR. in college, Edelman be kicked out. I only see this rule ever being enforced on names you need to google find out who they are. (Well maybe Burfict Lol)

I see unlike the other poster you didn’t bother put in Pre Season... I stand by what I said Pre season doesn’t matter or count.

Bills fans lamenting about a guy not being ejected when that part of the rule has never been enforced yet. (Or at least it isn’t able be googled) I never once said he didn’t deserve to get the penalty! I have consistently said the penalty would be the same. They are not going kick out a star player in a close game in the NFL EVER!! It will be some no name or person like Burfect that everyone hates. (Also outside of Buffalo (and obviously NE) Edelman considered a little punk but not dirty.. ) Awesome! So was a no name player in preseason... I just don’t think the NFL wants it called on a star player in a tight game. I also think the refs missed it. (They missed a lot Monday night). Be interesting see if he gets a fine or not. Again i I am not saying he shouldn’t be penalized for it, I just think IMO expecting an ejection was reasonable. The evidence proves they don’t do that YET.

Lol I understand I am just hoping someone can find out if anyone ever been kicked out via that rule? I suspect if anyone would be it be Burfect over in Baltimore. But I can’t find any data via google for it. and just so it’s out there again Gronks hit was bush league and he should have gotten a minimum of 2 games for that and a huge fine for like 4 game checks.. To me it was obvious in slow motion.. in real speed it looked like their heads hit accidentally during the collision.. Also I need someone provide an example or two when they have ejected anyone using this rule yet.. see my response above in regards to gronk lol..

In real time (which is the only time that matters) it didn’t look that way at all. Now your expecting refs, who are bad at their job anyways, to somehow slow it down m and see it? Actually it’s the same penalty.. it’s 15 yards or half the distance to the goal. Only difference is they COULD eject him... I have yet to see an ejection but they could do that..

How many NFL Players have been kicked out so far for said rule? I googled it and it didn’t give me any number so I’m really asking. I’ve seen it called and a 15 yard penalty and all but I have not seen an ejection yet.

A personal foul is a personal foul. (15 yards) The same penalty be levied no matter what the reason was given. As you said in real speed it want obvious to the naked eye so they could very well have missed the helmet to helmet. Now they could have called both, but the NFL dispite what it says doesn’t want that!

Again what missed call? He was called for a personal foul and was half the distance to the goal. Are you upset because the called it for blocking after calling for a fair catch instead of for helmet to helmet? No matter which one they called it’s the same result. Was it a dumb dumb move? Yes was he penalized for it? Yes..

The refs missed a lot of mugging on both sides. Gronk was being mugged On the catch on the sideline and Clay? Had his armed clearly held when he didn’t hold onto the TD. Those are just two of many.. they seem to be letting the mugging go lately.

This is not one of their better teams. I think they still make the AFC Championship game just because outside of KC I don’t see a team capable coming into Foxoborough and winning. The D is bad on the line.. the secondary is better than the get credit for but hard keep coverage when the QB has 5-6 seconds to throw. (To answer it short this team isn’t wining a SB unless the D truly finds itself)

Lol your post was screaming “fight me” but I’m not going to. Dead horse means the debate and time talk about them is done.. now if you found anything else I said wrong and like talk about it as two rational adults go for it.

They teach o lineman to hold the jersey but let go if he starts get by you.. it’s technique for ALL O lineman. It is never called until they see the jersey being tugged A. Holding could be called on every down in every play for every team. (That’s a fact, it isn’t because the game would suck!) B. Your example is poor, since he did get a personal foul. (No idea what people expected, wrong reason but same result) C. Dead horse not beating it d. Another dead horse E. Wild speculation lol F. Curious how does a fan base help the team win scumbag or not?? I dont think your jealous, I think your grasping at any reason to believe the Pats been this good for this long besides just having the best HC and QB. I dare say BB is coaching in an era where quality good HC is hard to find. I believe they win because 95% of other teams coaches pee down their leg when they see BB and they do something totally dumb and cost them the game.

They had a lot of penalties in the Chicago game.. some were just bad calls others legit the. The few that were questionable.. doesn’t matter whining about it.. you can’t change the refs.

I hate leaving the decision up to refs.. the personal foul was called, I guess technically they could have called two on him and that would automatically eject him from the game. I will play devils advocate and say MAYBE they didn’t see the helmet to helmet? They missed a lot of mugging going on for both teams receivers lol

Again the only penalty they could call (unsportsmanlike conduct) was called. I don’t believe they have the targeting rule like college. Well when I watched it live and the first time Monday night it didn’t look like it does in that video.. so I stand corrected

Where they can call the player for targeting and kick him out of the game. I didn’t think the NFL Had that rule. (I could be wrong) He was called for unsportsmanlike conduct. Also there is a rule in college where the refs can call it targeting and kick the player out of the game. (That’s the rule I was talking about.) also if you believe only the Pats have players who have done this then you are very wrong. Almost every team has had a few each year..

Do they even have that rule in the NFL? When the refs called it for “blocking after calling for a Fair catch” I was like what? Then when I saw it I was like ok that’s legit penalty. Oh god yes a fine.. I don’t believe a suspension but a nice hefty fine by all means.