MarlinTheMagician

That is very kind All-Pro. Probably being too pushy on my Wilkerson point, but I really think he is so perfect for this squad. I believe (but no one wants me as GM, sadly), he alone would be a game-changer on D. And he is young, a gamer (was "questionable" for our game when he broke his leg), not a prima donna, not a money whore. He is a blood and guts guy Bills fans would just love. And I feel he is a grown-up in a way Dareus and Hughes might not be yet. I think he could make the money we are already committed to spend on our line. Him and Sanu would truly let us draft BPA, and I think it is doable. With our first -- see a tackle you like, a linebacker that can get to the flat, a safety that would make a difference, you can grab the best athlete without drafting for need. Love our Bills more than anything in sports (and some things outside of sports that I should probably value more highly than the Bills. Like food). I think we have cap manuevability, if not space. Using it wisely could make all the difference. Plus another solid draft and we could be really close. D

So much negativism on the board today!! C'mon, we are BILLS FANS. Sure this year was a disappointment. But harken back to 84-85, or for the old timers '68. Five wins combined in those years! My whole life the sword of imminent departure hung over the team, and it is gone! They are going to get one before I die, I feel it. We have had it so much worse for so often - we can be a good team for a long time with what we have, and we have a chance to be great. ​We are in the hunt. I agree with not blowing it up. Pegs needs to convince Rex not to put too much pressure on his own club with his big mouth. But there are some good things about Rex - he is a competitor. Would love to see them hire Coughlin as football czar - over Rex and Whaley. Possible?

Agree with every one of those. Do those things and add Mo Wilkerson to Dareus and Hughes, with Darby and Gilmore on the edges, and we have the core in place for many years. Build the linebacker and safety talent up through the draft. I think we miss the safety that signed with Tennessee (what the hell was his name) more than I thought we would - he was big enough to cover tight ends, and very smart/coach on the field guy. Not saying he would have made the difference, but instead we have Duke Williams, porn star chaser, and other meatheads. All the guys other than Hughes that take dumb over-exuberance penalties have to go -- Brooks, Duke, Boobie. Bye. We have to get a smarter roster, as well as a more talented one (this is two your points 1 & 2). But I think we need a talent infusion too. MO, MO, MO!!!!

I think re-signing Whaley is a great move. Talent level here now is so different than mid-late 2000s. I feel we quickly forget. Two non-losing seasons for the Bills is pretty unusual - as the stats show. And he is young and should get better. Some home runs - Sammy, Tyrod, Darby, Richie, etc. Biggest miss was Manuel, but it was a reasonable risk when we were desperate for QB help - we all like Fitz, but for us he cost far too much to keep and he would not restructure. And at QB, they kept after it and got Tyrod when the likelihood of a miss with EJ became apparent. ​More than anything, with Whaley it seems like we are always trying to get better in ways that are not illogical -- even if not all attempts work (EJ, Cyrus and Harvin). I have not had that desperate "what the world are we doing" feeling in a few years. We need some new D pieces. If Mario is not a stud (and there is no argument he was not this year), the sure pieces we have on D are actually pretty few: Darby, Gilmore, Hughes and Dareus. That is about it - lots of mediocre talent on that side was masked by the "cold front" - I think they will get it fixed.

Question: Perhaps someone could help me with this, tell me if I am wrong. As I look at it, Bills don't have big cap problems. From what I have read in the past plus looking at Sportrac, it seems we have over $30 million in cap space available with expected cuts and restructurings before any increase. I think we have $18+ million from cutting Mario/expected Clay restructuring (we all remember the "blow-up the Dolphins" frontloading); and Another $12 or so among cut/restructurings with Kyle Williams, Leodis, Carpenter, Corey Graham, Urbik and Dixon. I don't think any of those are critical pieces - love Kyle but he does not fit this system, can't see him as an end and don't think he can hold the nose. The rest are not core pieces. And this assumes Aaron Williams is retained. Pay Wilkerson $14, and you still have plenty for Cordy and Richie. Is this not in line with fact?

Much has been written in New York press about having to choose between Wilkerson and Richardson. Harrison needs a new contract and Williams played well. Free agent priorities include Ivory and Fitzpatrick. Reportedly, Jets very tight against the cap and Wilkerson has a broken leg. Can't say it is impossible. Personally 10/10 I take Wilkerson over Richardson, but Jets seem to be leaning the other way.

Jets really don't want to let Mo go, I agree. But they have even more than we do tied up in line. What was Leonard Williams, like 4th overall pick or so? Plus Sheldon Richardson, plus Harrison. They probably can't keep them all, which is likely why they did not tie-up Wilkerson before 2015. They have exclusive rights until March? If I was Mo I would make them pay up for making me wait and if they did not blow me away - why not test the market? Broken leg could help us a little there. I remember Mo coming out in the press here in support of Rex pretty strongly a couple of years ago. I wonder what their relationship is? ​Not impossible -- Plus the Jets are stupid - never under-estimate that! For example, they are going to pay to try to keep Fitz. More than $4.5 million or so and they blew it, IMHO.

Wilkerson will not be overpriced, which is not to say he won't be expensive. Only over-priced if the under-perform their contract. Very little risk of that with Mo. You can build primarily through the draft and still add pieces through free agency. Which is more likely to be over-priced, a "re-sign" of Bradham, Mario, Glenn, Incognito or Mo Wilkerson? Of those five, I think Wilkerson has the lowest risk of being over-priced. He is an unusual talent.

We have a good start. If they add some pieces . . . . Where is the guys that always posts: 19-0 Baby! Love that -

Although I guess they do have exclusive rights until when - March? But being this close, Mo should test the market -- and Jets have much tied to WIlliams, Richardson, Harrison,. We agree on Sanu. I admit, neither of us really know how much cap pressure Bengals feel, and it all depends on how much they like their own guys. They have money, and need to sign a ton of talent. If they let some walk agree they have plenty of money for Jones. My point really was though - unlikely to pay market for both Sanu and Jones and I don't think we disagree on that. Mo + Sanu!

Tried to paste in Cinci article on their cap situation, but couldn't. They have a ton of talent they need to sign or let go. Green took a huge amount of money, and they only extended Whitworth through 2016 (kind of like Gilmore). I think they have their own pressures -- Adam Jones did himself no favors! No longer up to Jets whether they let Mo go. Fans are furious they did not get it done before this year, now he hits the market.

Yup - AJ Green plus Whitworth = ? Friends in CInci think they are strapped. ​Agree with the post on linebackers -- need 'em bad. But the front is much more difficult -- 300lb guys that can set the edge and rush about second hardest thing to find after QBs (maybe a stud wideout just as hard -- love Whaley's trade for Sammy, never understood they hate for that). ​Linebackers can be found, not saying it is easy. But Wilkerson + Dareis + Hughes, all in their prime, is the foundation that will let the linebackers shine.

Absolutely. And I think we can get a WR in FA to be #2. Gotta get a right tackle before Tyrod is killed.

Cinci does not have cap space when measured against the talent they need to sign. But back to Wilkerson: You don't blow the cap by signing guys that earn their contract. You don't blow the cap by signing guys that are outcome determinative with their play. You blow it buy signing guys like Byrd. You blow it by giving it to questionable characters like Suh, or malcontents like Mario. In my view, Wilkerson is one of the lowest risk in all of the NFL not to earn what he is paid. He is an overwhelming force on the field, and a tremendous leader by example which our group of knuckleheads sorely lack. He would keep his foot in Dareus and keep Hughes in line.

Wilkerson - get him.

The heck with the capologists. Offense is close, we need a tackle and a number 2. On the D, we have some great pieces but are very flawed. We need to look at the D as a blank slate after a few guys -- Dareus, Hughes, Gilmore and Darby are set. That is it. None of the other seven are players that will make or break us. Bradham, Brown, Kyle Williams, Graham, Aaron (love him, because of injury I say this), McKelvin, Lawson and on and on - keep what you can, but all replaceable. None make the difference needed to get us where we need to go. Wilkerson maximizes the investment in Dareus and Hughes -- the opposite of pissing it away. Team guy that will lead them. Can and should continue to be the core of the D. Back 7 looked too damn slow across the board after Darby and Gilmore. Zero linebacker pursuit - anything in the flat goes for 20. Need to retool LBs and add a safety. ​

In 45+ years of watching the Bills, few coaches frustrated me more than Ryan this year. Having said that, as a Buffalo guy stuck living in New York and watching his Jet teams closely, I do believe he can coach up a defense. If he has two strong corners, his scheme will work (it failed when Jets dumped Revis and Cromartie and left Rex with a bunch of Ron Brooks equivalents, or lesser) . Lock up Gilmore and we have the CBs we need for years. I think it is easy to underestimate what a destructive force it is when a vet star like Mario does not buy-in. Could ruin guys like Dareus or Hughes. Mo Wilkerson is the opposite, ultimate locker-room and team guy. I almost feel "whatever it takes" - get him. Guys like Bradham will not make or break you, but Mo could. If we lose some guys we'd like to keep like Nigel etc to get Big Mo, so what (IMHO). Seems we desperately need a No. 2 receiver, and I think Sanu or Jones could be perfect fit and are undervalued because so much talent in Cinci: Not enough balls for AJ Green, Sanu, Jones, Eifert, Bernard, Hill etc. GO BILLS!!!

Plan for 2016: Whaley said perhaps one D splash signing - Please be Mo WIlkerson, perfect fit. Plus one Mid-range - I like Sanu - big, strong possession peceiver with great RAC ability and bonus of throwing ability , but Marvin Jones if you prefer speed to take top off defense. Both are underrated and should trade as mid-range FA's, and will allow us a number 2 for Sammy without breaking bank or compromising draft. Very happy with Sammy, Sanu/Jones, Woods going into next year. Draft: Rounds 1-3 Best available with focus on Tackle, LBs (that can run)and Safety. We are not far off. To execute the foregoing: Cut Mario (swap out for WIlkerson); Restructure Clay -- deal was meant for it; Cut McKelvin, Urbik, Carpenter, Duke Williams, Corey Graham, Harvin, Cut or restructure (only if very favorable) - Kyle. Work to lock up: Cordy, Incognito and Gilmore (nothing left to prove, do it now).

We need a power back to replace Fred. Maybe not right now, but soon. CJ will need to be replaced if we can't sign him for what he is worth or less, which will be significantly determined this year (see Chris Johnson). All the above will need blocking, we need two starting lineman out of this draft (Hairston, who I like, being a wild-card but seems best suited to swing tackle if healthy). GO BILLS!

Mess with Bon Jovi's bus like a MoFo

Not saying RB is essential this year, but when Fred was hurt we had no consistent running game with just CJ. Maybe it was because CJ was hurt too, maybe it was the line, but maybe not. I am not a fan of run -1, run +1 run -3, run +24. Too often those were CJ's carries. Those are drive killers, and they get your young QB killed because too often instead of 2d and 7 you have 2d and 12; or 3rd and nine instead of third and 4 or 5. Would like to see them draft an RB that can really stick it up in there to complement Fred, who is the best. Like Spiller as a weapon, but more like a wildcard than "feed him the ball until he vomits." They tried that, it didn't work.

And not hating our brothers to the North (good hockey folks all of them), but keep your damn hands off our Bills! There is no evidence whatsoever that Toronto would support this team. And if the Toronto folks really want to watch NFL football, come on across the border and see a game in one of the best home venues in the NFL. I realize the Rogers games may not be fully representative, but I have never seen a deader environment for football. London is even better. Bon Jovi, ugh. Jersey trash is right, and I live in Jersey now and like it there! GO BILLS!

Not sure there is a big difference between a second and third this year. Giants' third is a high third. Plus, not sure your right that we can't get a two. And if I was trading with Gints, I would make sure they were after the one of Ebron/Martin I did not want. I agree with you about possible tough stop for our Buffalos though. If the three tackles are gone, i don't like it. Possible silver lining: If the tackles are gone and the quarterbacks all there, our pick could become quite valuable to a team needing a QB!

Been watching some Bortles vids. Dude kind of reminds me of Kelly.

I have read several posts on this going on about trust law and fiduciary obligations. Those posts are off to the extent they suggest the law will mandate a sale to the highest bidder regardless of intent to move or not. There is the law, and there is reality. The two don't always meet. If Ralph while of sound mind made clear to Mary he would like the team to stay, you can bet it will. If he did not, it may still stay but it will be more about money and less about legacy, which does not favor us. The law will not rule this analysis. C'mon Pegula, Millstein, Jacobs, Trump, Jimbo!!!!! Can we have some mass Bon Jovi record burning or something? Geez.