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That is not a disagreement on Nix. He knew Bills needed a QB when the Fitz thing happened. He should have known Ryan was not the answer to begin with. Inept ? yes we agree. I am loathe to mention it. but Ralph was cheap : )

I do not care one lick about anyone else's CB right now. White is a Beast who will likely improve second year. and he is already top ten in my book. Vontae Davis is going to improve the secondary as well over Gaines ( loved his speed and hit ) The only time i care about any other CB is when Bills are playing them next week. Till then , Go Bills ! Lattimore deserved it, Tre was second statistically for corners. not bad at all

Manuel was to satisfy us screaming Fans ! after long Fitz Nix had no option and it was a tough year to finally cannon ball into the pool of shallow water ( QB) I have been of the opinion , McD wanted to get his Offensive Coaching and scouting in place via Beane. Before jumping of the high board into the deep end. we shall see, but hope is what the offseason Bills Fans do best ! Go Bills !

your sister is lying. You're terrible. but you can attract a bee or two in saffron laced bikini cut

seems like you might be a bit better informed than most we might pick up of the wire feeds ! Lets hope Bills can take care of the Kid at the NFL playing levels

Nope. For most of his career he might well have lost us games. If any team ran a guy deep into single coverage against Leodis i would physically react. OH NO NO NO please No. he could be on his man ( great athlete btw ) jump higher get his hands up and still, game changing reception. That was Leodis. Till he learned to become a receiver once he turned. he was a ball hawk with plays in front of him though. btw I love the guy. great heart

Good post. I might guess they have an Idea about how that stuff all works. and honest personalities is something they just seem to exude. I am likely biased though. I like them so far. quite a bit : )

I think we can agree we should find out what his real worth is this upcoming season. No more injury and no more Rex. Let us see what ya really got kid !

I have poor sense of humor. sorry for the misunderstanding

You have to view this from 20 thousand feet i think. The Project which includes Building defense first year and preparing to be able to reach for the QB in the second make the direct comparison using statistics does not tell the whole story as to value of the individual decision making maybe ? it was explained upthread by the OP that was not the intention of the post. I thought as you did till i read through.

There is a time and place to be aggressive. and by gosh you better pick the right ones. In life and the NFL draft for QB. These guys feel like they are in the beginning stages of what the Bills should look like to them. The general turnover is complete or will before the season begins. This was a great shot to take in my very humble opinion. Was not sure before the draft which one they were focused on . But now i feel as if Allen might have been the guy they wanted all along ! Sure hope they got it right. I like these guys.

Ha ! I did chuckle reading this, thanks. : )

I guess the intent of the "Lawson at Clemson" feed was just an impetus to get us talking about whether the kid has a future with Bills ? Has plenty to prove this year. Lets just hope he becomes part of a solid rotation up front ! nobody likes a quitter Tom. pull yourself together

You certainly make fine arguments for your case. No matter the topic. Even Bill must take some pleasure as to how you described his thinking as outlier. Well done to both of you for quality discourse ! i can see both points rather clearly and respect that .

yep. agreed Perhaps no one trusted Whaley's scouts? and McD knew he was over his head with Offense, aaaannnd Rico was not the long term answer. Patience that few have left, I do. They of course were setting up for this past draft in bringing in the QB. I won't fault them for not taking a top ranked QB last year

Overly defensive ? Maybe we could get a two for one price deal on a therapy session and split the bill ?

This is also my opinion

I have to make a suggestion here. If Bills do NOT feel the rest of the Offense is where they wish it to be yet , then they might want to let him learn awhile. At least not let Allen killed or mentally and emotionally derailed. Allen might well be the best QB in the room at the end of Preseason. to me it's a tough call right now. Wrs and O line look pretty darned weak right now... to me at least.

Donnie Henderson ? i may be wrong of course. But that year Leodis learned to turn around on time and then become the receiver. Often beat his guys but struggled mightily to deflect the ball even when in position. I used to cringe when Anyone thew deep on him. you just knew we were screwed. and then he got it. and then he was injured. cruel fate. keep hustlin aint no lie

There are southern Folks who have serious regional dialect. Most people make fun of "different" its true and we all are aware of it. not the intent of the OP i hope. and would be surprised if so. It took me awhile to get a clue what Leodis was saying. years actually. I too miss him and his words. Sincere and sometimes hilarious. Big heart

Under Jim Schwartz and who was the Coach for the D backs that year ? come on we know his name he did kick that azz. WIN thanks Mike !

Unless you are Buffalo Bills. you were here for the Peterman thing weren't you ?☺️

no argument about that !

I was going to mention a bit about what you meant. Glad you were able to clarify ! amazing how QB need drive players up the board with such zeal. Because everyone wants one. Even the teams who have one look hard. Crazy helium balloons

Now if that could be successfully turned into a " Process " map we would really have something ! But no question about Jokeman on this one.