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You're probably right. It's more like they hire a guy that most fans weren't considering, which never rests will initially. We still buy into them quickly.

You're not done. But yeah, it sucks.

I suspect that you're a bit early to literally be done with him, but I think that this is how it works. We start to lose games in both gut-wrenching fashion like yesterday, or in pathetic fashion like the Pittsburgh game and slowly the coach loses respect by fans game-by-game until year three comes around and a majority want him gone.

I agree that because it's their first season they shouldn't be questioned. If this was our first time going through this I wouldn't consider it. I'm questioning them because there's been 5 previous examples that follow a similar trajectory that I can't easily ignore. Do you think Marrone can get us over the hump when his team goes on a run like it probably will either next year or the year after? I'm not so sure anything is different.

This is our sixth new coaching regime since Levy. We usually hate the hiring because it's not a household name coach, but they say enough things that we eventually come around (except for maybe Jauron). We're starting to put together a new tradition. It goes as follows: 1. Fire old coach 2. Hate new coach 3. Buy into new coach 4. Question new coach 5. Have hope for new coach when they get close to a run 6. Want the head of new coach till he becomes old coach I think right now is the quintessential step 4. Between now and next season, we're all going to have our Marrone doubts. Inevitably, there will be one moment between now and his token three years, where we all have a little faith. There seems to be one moment all these coaches get where there is actual hope: Wade Philips - Actually led us to the playoffs Gregg Williams - Had that first Beldsoe season Mike Mularky - Had that last Bledsoe season (infamous Steelers third stringer loss) Dick Jauron - Had that improbable 5-1 start in 2008 Chan Gailey - Comeback wins against OAK, NE and 4-1 start Here's what is on all of our minds right now: Do you think Marrone has what it takes to buck tradition? Or, do you think when he gets his little glimmer of hope (be it next year or the year after) will he choke like the rest?

I'm getting the feeling that we are going to see a lot of these dead horse beating threads from now till next September.

I like the Steven Ridley approach. Bench him and make him walk around all week with a football in his hand. Bring his ego back down to earth (though I have no idea why its so high to begin with). Humble him. If he doesn't want to be humbled, trade him. If he comes back and chokes again, trade him.

See, Jets Game.

Blaming his injury for his play today, after he's gotten a pass the last few games is a bit annoying. I don't think his wrist was bothering him to the point where he can't read the slant pattern and jump on the ball like an "elite" corner would the tenth time the receiver runs that route. It is technically too early to make any concrete judgements on Gilmore, but there's something about his game that makes him difficult to be excitable about. Mostly I think its knowing that he has not, and rarely looks like he's about to make a good play on the ball. Hell, even though he drops it - McKelvin still gets his hands on the ball and tries to make a play on the ball.

Speak for yourself. Don't throw "we" around, figurative or otherwise, when you're talking out of your asssss.

Chargers look like they're actually going to make a solid push. Other than that, even with the head-to-head, Ravens seem capable of winning out to 10-6.

By 4pm it would easily be one of the worst Sunday's of your life.

Yawn. Everyone is focusing on asinine assumptions, forced conspiracy theories, and pointless stories to make the NFL seem criminal. Its a sport for Christ's sake! Act like you've watched it before! Don't let it dictate your life and get wrapped up in their celebrity. Welker will in all likelihood be fine. If not, don't worry so much about him. He has fans, millions of dollars, a hot wife and a great life. You wasting your energy feeling sorry for these players is more sad than their injuries and its not even close.

I get what you're saying, and a lot of anti-Brady posts are definitely hypocritical... But no, I don't want EJ walking the ref off the field crying after he throws a pick to lose the game.

Brady can't believe he doesn't get his classic mulligan. Watching him complain to the ref right there... man, he might be one of the best ever, but it's hard to root for someone like that.

Hope I'm wrong, but they might have scored with too much time for Brady.

The point was, if you're a 3-7 football team without WR success. How exactly does a flier on a talented young kid make your record any worse? If anything he would see Easley/Hogan time out there and use the season to get experience and learn how to patiently wait his number. If he acts up or can't handle it when its his turn (when Stevie's hurt, Woods' hurt and there's a chance), then move on...you'd still be 3-7 so who cares?

Do you watch the games or just look at the stat line? In all those examples, which QB looked like they only know the lob pass? Which QB accounted for zero offensive fourth quarter points? Which QB had 250 rush yards to help them and still lost. Which QB threw a pick six on their goaline. We would have won this game with Thad or EJ and you know it. Blindly admiring Fuel is as bad as those consistently bashing him.

Should ask you the same question the way you're defending him. This is the NFL. You don't get many passes at that position.

Do they make brail keyboards now?

Pat White?

Just win (the coin toss) baby!