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He has some. There is no heir apparent and they pick in the low 20’s. I probably pony up for one more year if I am the Pats, and do whatever it takes to get near the top of the draft this year.

There wasn’t a jail break when he threw to his FB into double coverage. There was no jail break when he tried that head scratcher of a lateral. Josh is unpredictable currently. Unpredictably good and unpredictably bad at times. At some point he will become predictable and he’ll either be our franchise QB or he’ll be out of the league.

Or maybe, if you’re only TD is on a gimmicky play where your QB ended up catching a pass rather than throwing it, your QB didn’t have a great day chucking the football around...

1st half JA almost won the game. 2nd half Josh might have lost the game. JJ watt wasn’t a game changer, but his moments were timely. Murphy and Hughes played great. Tre had a pretty bad second half. Some of that is magnified because Watson barely looked his way in the first half. The biggest loss was O’Brien vs McD at the half. We lost the second half because of coaching.

I don’t disagree but there was a 3rd down call where Ford grabbed Watt well outside the numbers, got flipped around, and threw JJ to the ground. No call.

I generally use one of two Bills long sleeve T’s. Today I took my flag down from outside and wore it on my AM run around Saratoga today.

Aye, bands back together again. love it

I thought they pulled the trigger too soon on Pettine in Cleveland.They were a dumpster before he showed up. They got better under him.

100% He is on a very short list of current NFL athletes that wouldn't put me in the hospital. Not even that, I think I probably have a 75% shot at winning.

His completion percentage is about the same as his college average and the college game is full of easy throws. Daboll has been frustrating, yes, but Allen isn't exaclty performing "out of character" either.

Yeah that goes for just about everything we do during our day. Sometimes our actions don’t have our desired outcome. But that doesn’t mean that our football team isn’t worthy of criticism when they decided to play their starters for two series in order to “keep them sharp” and they came out looking like poop.

They looked terrible as an offensive unit. If they looked ready sharp or at least the depth of the squad looked like they knew what they were doing, that would have been great. Also, to echo what others have asked all year, Why the eff isn’t Yeldon used more on game day?

I thought it should have been ruling on the field. Wasn’t enough either way IMO.

I wouldn't say vultures or snipes. Rather Allen leads a team in scoring that doesn't score enough points. We rank 19th in Rushing TD's and 18th in Passing TD's. We need to do better at scoring TD's both through the air and on the ground. A lot of that needs to come from better play from Allen, especially with his arm.

Hey f we were to really flip the script, based on how hot and cold Allen can be. We would have a BAL or KC powered offense, with a similar defense to our Pettine led D’s. Can’t get off the field, high TO and sack rate. That said, that is probably the type of D you want with a high scoring offense.

Agreed. Especially if you have guys like Oliver and Phillips pretty heavy in your rotation. Having an upgrade at MLB in run support allows two penetrating DTs on the field together more often.

you as well sir. the in-laws have me on edge already and it’s not even noon yet.

That’s fair. Felt snarky this morning. Deleted. Just to clarify I was mocking everybody who gets up in arms when people mention something bad abo Allen.

I get it. As much as I don’t want anything to do with Baltimore or NE in the playoffs, I also don’t want anything to do with the team that beats them.

This made me laugh too hard. I’m a weird dude.

If we had the 20th ranked defense, we would be running Josh out of town. That would be just as much the wrong decision as crowning him as arrived with "half stats" where you list 6/10 games but include 10 games of scoring. Josh has made some improvements. I wouldn't call him terrible, I also wouldn't call him good. He is electric to watch though.

Because it isn't just interpret and count. The other 40% of games not listed are the 21, 25, 32, and 32nd ranked defenses in the league.... It wasn't just a happy coincidence the way it was presented.

Cool thanks. Listen man, I get it Josh is getting there. But the point was valid, you presented a bunch of incomplete information, and reached to conclusions that the data didn't really show or imply. Which was fine, because there was some value in the discussion overall about his improvement. Just thought I would point it out up front. Then you called me an idiot... Allen against defenses ranked in the top half (16) for yards per game has a total stat line of 106/201 12 TD/ 7 Turn Overs . 1231 passing yards. Over 7 games that averages out to about 52% completion percentage. 176 Passing Yards per game. 1.7: 1 TD/TO ratio. (There are about 20 QB's in the NFL with a better TD Pass to Interception Ratio) Averaging to the decimal over 7 games against top 16 defenses Josh has a Passer Rating of 69.94. NE currently leads the league in opponent Passer Rating of 59.8. Next is Baltimore at 79.8 Against the top 16 defenses ranked by yards per game, Josh Allen performed: Better than the defensive average against NE- 59.8- Josh 102.7 DEN- 89.1- Josh 92.9 DAL- 93.8 Josh- 120.7 Worse than the defensive average against: NE- 59.8 Josh- 46.4 BAL- 79.8- Josh- 62.6 PHI- 92.1- Josh- 81.6 PIT- 81.2- Josh- 65.2 The Dallas and NE pt 2 game are actually really good talking points. We should actually use them as markers for Josh as measures of improvement. Allen showed he could play at a top level when it came to ball placement against Dallas. NE gave him fits, and even though he left plays on the field, he did a good job of learning from week 4 and didn't give BB and TB an extra opps from turn overs. But don't call people names and lump a bunch of other trash into that just to make you feel like your point is stronger, because it doesn't. Josh has actually played pretty bad by the numbers against top half defenses.

The Bills have played 10 games since their bye, not 6. You left 4 out. Makes it read like Allen put up 21 TD’s in 6 weeks. He didn’t.