Mango

I don't think they are protecting Josh. I think they are protecting the team. You can't win games where you don't move the sticks and turn the ball over. The last few games from Josh have been based around him no effing it all up like the first pats game. Josh has a difficult time seeing it then throwing it on time so he either throws the ball late/behind or holds onto it too long. He'll also go for the home run ball over the first down throw 8/10. These are things that need to be worked on every single week regardless of opponent or point in the season.

So what's happening is, the coaching staff has been like, "Oh man, you could be great, but don't be great, definitely be mediocre and struggle to score points. You know since the defense is fantastic and all. Only be great when the defense is not awesome. We can't have both the offense and defense play at a dominant level. We will let you know when you are allowed to play at your full potential"

A good look at his history. He started using Xanax and Codeine in 7th grade. Gangs at 15. Then some ass-hat-coach at Baylor helped Gordon cheat his drug tests so he could keep playing. When you start using prescription meds at 12/13, you really don't have much of a chance against being an addict. Then add gangs at 15, and adults helping you keep your addictions going from 18-20 so you can be "successful".

At this point I feel bad for the guy. He just can't get out of his own way. It is sad really.

wellll.....shhhhhyyytttt

"Oh, well OK, since you asked. Otherwise I was definitely planning on being fumble prone" - Devin Singletary, probably

HOLY SHHHH. Girls, not too bright, because then you can trick em'. 14-18 years old is my wheel house. That is terrifying.

Whhhaaaaatttt? An A? He did enough to win, but didn’t play well at all. C-

I thought he had some good things to say about Allen. Like actual positive things. His best commentary was about Joshs footwork on some bad throws. Then on good throws he pointed out how good Josh can be when he gets those things right. Thought he was fair with JA tonight.

I mean, to each their own. I also don’t think God is taking sides in NFL football games and blessing one team with INT’s or victories over another.

Does McD always point to the sky/Jesus every time something good happens? He did it a TON tonight

There are Daboll apologists?

Collinsworth compared Tre to Dion and Gilmore. Dope!

Im not pleased with the offense at all tonight, and didn’t like the first series on D. But let’s cool that. Game is far from over.

Hit him in the hands at his ankles. Could he catch it? Sure. Are we taking some liberties with “hit him in the hands”? Absolutely. I get it. Our WR’s need to do a better job at helping out Josh. But making lots of tough catches isn’t sustainable. Throwing better passes is thought

I get the Collinsworth hate. But I thought his comment on JA’s footwork was a good note on why that ball short hopped.

NFL QBs getting paid to not throw a ball 3 feet over their open WR’s heads. Bad throw AND a bad catch. It can be both.

I mean, we just a fairly mediocre out route by a mile...it’s not just the deep stuff sometimes

Did Tre say his college was “The Tre White Goalie Academy” love this dude

Maybe a stupid question, but how are waivers ranked? Is it just by record or is it like the playoffs and division leaders are closer to the top even if they’re .500?

The 5th year option isn’t that old and only applies to first rounders. There have been quite a few. I mean I guess you’re right, teams afraid of carrier ending injury and bad QB’s don’t pick it up. 7/14 were picked up. So half. Option not given to: Brandon Weeden Blaine Gabbert Christian Ponder Jake Locker EJ Manuel (only first round pick) Johnny Maziel Teddy Bridgewater

You are absolutely right, currently the case. But when you look the current QB market, and young guys coming off their rookie deals are taking up to 20% of the teams cap space, you will most likely either get into garbage time or get into shootouts.

I don't think people want or expect him to throw 300 yards week in or week out. Or at least I don't, you become too one dimensional all the time. Rather would like to see him own a game if we do need to go there in a shoot out. Not to rehash old wounds/threads, but Josh is pushing pretty low on the list of starts to 300 yards. Right now he is at 24. The only QB's since 1998 who lasted 6 years and/or had 20 starts in the league who failed to hit a 300 yard game by now are: Vince Young (25) Charlie Batch (27) Tyrod Taylor (29) Alex Smith (36 David Garrard (40) Seneca Wallace (never) Kellen Clemens (never) Trent Edwards (never) David Fales (never) Again- hitting early doesn't mean anything, but it seems hitting late is not great.

I agree with you to a certain extent. I would much rather have Josh than Duck moving forward. I think Josh is a better QB because of his legs, his arm strength, and his intangibles. But to play devils advocate, I think we all wish that in the Baltimore game Josh took some more safe underneath stuff, and that his bombs were 50/50 balls (which they weren't). You don't get bonus points for missing more difficult throws vs. completing easier passes.

I don't think it is an agenda. Via the numbers, TD, TD:INT, Per Attempt, and Comp %, he is playing better over 4 games, than Josh has over 13 this season. The sample size is small. It is a bit of click bait, but it isn't necessarily wrong, and does not mean that their careers will follow that trajectory. He is bound to lay No need to get our panties in a bunch. He is bound to lay a few clunkers against Buffalo and Baltimore...god knows what happens in that Jets game. The numbers will play out.